• Games stuttering/temporary freezing
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Hey guys, so it seems my PC is having some issues. It seems many of my games suffer from either stuttering, where they'll freeze for half a second, or they'll flat-out freeze UNTIL I Ctrl+Alt+Del to escape the window, and then when I alt+tab in, it's running fine! I'm checking my temps with Speedfan and 65*C on Load for a GTX 670 seems pretty average. CPU is even lower, around 50C to 55C, so I'm doubting it's a heat issue. A few times, I've had a message pop up for Graphics Drivers failed to respond, but it doesn't always pop up when I have the issues. I'm updated to the latest drivers. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions? [URL]http://speccy.piriform.com/results/1kbZZID7hWJ1qi8ekkbsxka[/URL]
Have you tried reinstalling the graphics driver? If that doesn't work try an old driver, preferably one that was released when you weren't having problems
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;39714899]Have you tried reinstalling the graphics driver? If that doesn't work try an old driver, preferably one that was released when you weren't having problems[/QUOTE] I have tried that, and older drivers did this as well. It also seems that when my games have issues, all my chrome tabs just become a black-screen and I have to restart chrome to view anything in the browser.
Does nobody have any ideas? My old card worked great (GTX 560 Ti), and it's really bothering me that I can't even play World of Tanks without the game going to a black screen, or freezing every 10-20 seconds. It sometimes can fix itself after a few seconds, but often I have to restart the game. Many other games do a similar thing. It sucks. [IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4037422/display driver crash.jpg[/IMG] There's some related information. I was playing World of Tanks and was about 30 seconds into the game when the Display Driver crashed. It appeared the power to the GPU slowly dwindled, followed by the memory clock plummeting, shortly followed by the GPU clock going down to idle speeds (As expected). I'm running a Cooler Master 650w PSU, so I'm fairly certain it's sufficient. I dusted out my computer when I installed the GTX 670, so everything should be running smoothly. GPU maxed out at 60C during gameplay, so I'm not worried about the temperature. I was worried it might be RAM, but I doubt that'd cause the display driver to crash, and then the issue wouldn't just be with games. [editline]1st March 2013[/editline] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4037422/display%20driver%20crash%202.jpg[/img] So this time, the game froze without the display driver crashing. This is what happens for many of my games, for example, Counter-Strike: GO, Dark Souls, World of Tanks, League of Legends, etc. The game appears to be completely stable at first. I started running into some stuttering and I noticed the power consumption rapidly fluctuating. "Boost" mode for my GPU had bumped it up from 915 MHz to 1050 MHz. It seemed the game was stabile until my GPU was using boost. Once the game crashed (Black Screen, can hear sounds but no display), Clock Speed went back to stock 915 MHz.
Recently had stuttering issues and it wasn't the GFX card at all. Hard drive had corrupt files and needed to be re-formatted. Disk-Read errors cause serious stuttering, crashing, freezing and just all kinds of problems. Right-Click hard-drive > Tools > error-checking Restart pc, let it run, and see if any bad files show up. If so... -- Back up your files -- Re-format hard drive -- Re-install Windows Frankly, whenever I get serious problems like that. Step 1 for me is backup, format, Re-install. 2 hours of my time is much less a headache then hours of crashing and frustration trying to figure out whats wrong. If you have problems directly after that, you've eliminated the OS & Software, and most likely the hard drive, then you can start checking other hardware problems (gfx) Good luck
[QUOTE=Ese;39770704]Recently had stuttering issues and it wasn't the GFX card at all. Hard drive had corrupt files and needed to be re-formatted. Disk-Read errors cause serious stuttering, crashing, freezing and just all kinds of problems. Right-Click hard-drive > Tools > error-checking Restart pc, let it run, and see if any bad files show up. If so... -- Back up your files -- Re-format hard drive -- Re-install Windows Frankly, whenever I get serious problems like that. Step 1 for me is backup, format, Re-install. 2 hours of my time is much less a headache then hours of crashing and frustration trying to figure out whats wrong. If you have problems directly after that, you've eliminated the OS & Software, and most likely the hard drive, then you can start checking other hardware problems (gfx) Good luck[/QUOTE] I bought an SSD after I got the new GPU. I been getting glitches since the GPU was new, but I re-installed Windows later when I got the SSD. So it seems consistent.
Best way to test it if it's the GFX card or not is to test it in another PC. If it doesn't happen then, it is most likely your PSU or bad RAM. You should run a memtest to be sure.
[QUOTE=Drumdevil;39805705]Best way to test it if it's the GFX card or not is to test it in another PC. If it doesn't happen then, it is most likely your PSU or bad RAM. You should run a memtest to be sure.[/QUOTE] I bought the GPU from a local shop so I'm gonna take it in to have them look at it, because they got some nifty tools I don't have, and worst case, a replacement GPU for me. I picked up some blank CDs yesterday so I'll pop memtest86+ on one and run a mem-test.
Memtest seemed to run fine. I took my computer to the local computer shop to really get it tested. They ran stress tests overnight without a single crash, and they couldn't reproduce the issue, although they didn't actually play any games on it. So I brought it home and it was fine for a bit. WoT still has issues but it reportedly has issues with new drivers, fine. But even games like CS:GO get the issue where they occasionally lock-up in a stutter loop (game freezes and sounds loop) and alt+tabbing doesn't fix it, I have to CTRL+ALT+DEL and then alt+tab back in to unfreeze it. Occasionally this is accompanied by the Windows Kernel Driver 314.xxx has crashed etc etc. No overheating and stress tests run fine. ANYONE HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? I PAID $450 FOR THIS GPU AND IT SEEMS TO RUN EVERYTHING BUT GAMES FINE, FFFFUUU.
[del]I assume this would happen running furmark & prime95 at the same time too. Your PSU may be malfunctioning.[/del] That or you're running avast =P (Saw this problem on one of my friends - but that was Windows 8 though)
[QUOTE=Killervalon;39988181][del]I assume this would happen running furmark & prime95 at the same time too. Your PSU may be malfunctioning.[/del] That or you're running avast =P (Saw this problem on one of my friends - but that was Windows 8 though)[/QUOTE] Not running avast. Had no issues running Prime95 and Furmark simultaneously EXCEPT [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4037422/prime95.jpg[/img]
I wonder if the CPU is undervolted.. I guess we found a suspect.
[QUOTE=Killervalon;39991447]I wonder if the CPU is undervolted.. I guess we found a suspect.[/QUOTE] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4037422/cpu%20volt.jpg[/img] Normal voltage? Turbo Boost and HTing are disabled
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;39996091][IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4037422/cpu volt.jpg[/IMG] Normal voltage? Turbo Boost and HTing are disabled[/QUOTE] Why did you disable Turbo Boost?
[QUOTE=Killervalon;39997826]Why did you disable Turbo Boost?[/QUOTE] Testing to see if it affected my stability issues. So far, it's done nothing. Same for hyperthreading. I guess I might as well turn it back on, but these issues have persisted since it was enabled.
Have you tried seeing if your BIOS has any new firmware? Also have you tried resetting your BIOS to original and running tests to see if it still happens?
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;39805271]I bought an SSD after I got the new GPU. I been getting glitches since the GPU was new, but I re-installed Windows later when I got the SSD. So it seems consistent.[/QUOTE] This might help: I heard rumours that solid state drives get a shitload of unrecoverable issues overtime. Your SSD might experience the same right now. But just run the hard drive check, you never know what occurs
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;40011807]This might help: I heard rumours that solid state drives get a shitload of unrecoverable issues overtime. Your SSD might experience the same right now. But just run the hard drive check, you never know what occurs[/QUOTE] I got a really reputable SSD brand that has only been in use for a few months. I've had GPU Issues from before I had the SSD as well. So nope!
[QUOTE=Ruzza;40008622]Have you tried seeing if your BIOS has any new firmware? Also have you tried resetting your BIOS to original and running tests to see if it still happens?[/QUOTE] I'm on the latest non-beta version from Gigabyte. I'm fairly certain this problem still existed on the old bios.
Ok, so I've determined the issue is not GPU related at all. My GTX 460 is doing the same thing, and it's a left-over from a friend that was working perfectly the day before I started using it. God-damn it. I just moved into a new place and am way too poor to replace any malfunctioning parts. Time to test the RAM
To begin with, SpeedFan and Piriform Speccy show inaccurate temperatures, you might want to get Open Hardware Monitor instead or something like that.
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;40243781]To begin with, SpeedFan and Piriform Speccy show inaccurate temperatures, you might want to get Open Hardware Monitor instead or something like that.[/QUOTE] While your argument is true, the reason is false.
You know, you could always try omega drivers. Or, uninstall current drivers, reboot. Search all of your C:\ Drive for any ATI/NVIDIA folders, any folders found, delete them. Do a disk clean up, then go into your device manager, and make sure no video drivers are installed. Except maybe default drivers loaded by your OS. Download the newest copy of drivers for your friends older video card, and use that to test with. If it scoops out good, then do the process again with the card you want to use. If card A runs smooth and card B doesn't, well I'd say it's hardware. If it's not hardware, then it's software, and a drivers uninstall, clean up, reinstall, should fix any of those problems. You have to make sure all traces of your current/old drivers are gone. Try SLI. Might work alright. However if you're certain it's not your GPU, well then, look at your Mobo for any capacitors that are swollen, look like they're about to 'splode. Or any burned out spots.
[QUOTE=Leat;40284427]You know, you could always try omega drivers. Or, uninstall current drivers, reboot. Search all of your C:\ Drive for any ATI/NVIDIA folders, any folders found, delete them. Do a disk clean up, then go into your device manager, and make sure no video drivers are installed. Except maybe default drivers loaded by your OS. Download the newest copy of drivers for your friends older video card, and use that to test with. If it scoops out good, then do the process again with the card you want to use. If card A runs smooth and card B doesn't, well I'd say it's hardware. If it's not hardware, then it's software, and a drivers uninstall, clean up, reinstall, should fix any of those problems. You have to make sure all traces of your current/old drivers are gone. Try SLI. Might work alright. However if you're certain it's not your GPU, well then, look at your Mobo for any capacitors that are swollen, look like they're about to 'splode. Or any burned out spots.[/QUOTE] We already locked it down to being hardware. Unless something is incredibly dumb coded and broken, stuttering shouldn't occour.
Edit: Here's a picture using OHM like someone recommended. [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4037422/gpu%20freeze.jpg[/img] Game is running fine until it stutters/freezes. GPU load instantly goes to 0% and starts hovering around 0-2% (switches between them). Temperature never gets higher than 62C. Everything else appears fine. GPU fans start to slow down (obviously) but it doesn't seem like they failed or anything. GPU itself appears to be fine, as same issue happens with my GTX 670 and this GPU was confirmed to work in a different computer.
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;40433090]Edit: Here's a picture using OHM like someone recommended. [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4037422/gpu%20freeze.jpg[/IMG] Game is running fine until it stutters/freezes. GPU load instantly goes to 0% and starts hovering around 0-2% (switches between them). Temperature never gets higher than 62C. Everything else appears fine. GPU fans start to slow down (obviously) but it doesn't seem like they failed or anything. GPU itself appears to be fine, as same issue happens with my GTX 670 and this GPU was confirmed to work in a different computer.[/QUOTE] Ahem... not OHM but [URL="http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html"]HWMonitor[/URL] but the results shouldn't differ that much anyways. It's not the GPU. My only thought is PSU.
[QUOTE=Killervalon;40434590]Ahem... not OHM but [URL="http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html"]HWMonitor[/URL] but the results shouldn't differ that much anyways. It's not the GPU. My only thought is PSU.[/QUOTE] Hm. Maybe, it's one of the original parts from the PC, and I think I got it in around December 2009. [URL="http://www.coolermaster.com.sg/product.php?product_id=5924"]Here's[/URL] the page for it. It's definitely out of warranty now unfortunately, so I guess I'll see if I can snag a PSU on sale off NCIX sometime next month.
Just to make sure. I got [URL="http://www.corsair.com/vengeance-4gb-dual-channel-ddr3-memory-kit-cmz4gx3m2a1600c9-288.html"]2 Corsair Vengeance 4GB Kits[/URL]. They are "running" at 1333MHz with XMP bumping them up to 1600MHz. Timings are set to 9-9-9-24 and voltage is 1.5V. That all correct?
Have you already checked the voltages in the BIOS? Most of the BIOS versions have voltage rails monitoring. Usually when those values are shown red it's out of acceptable ranges.
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