• GTX 970 ASUS GPU Tweak, are settings capped by ASUS or can I damage GPU by setting something wrong?
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Hey, so yesterday I got my GTX 970 ASUS, now I am wondering about GPU Tweak by Asus, Can I damage card by setting some settings wrong or too high or did ASUS automatically cap settings for safety?
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46929626]If it's too high it should just crash and restart the machine no harm done.[/QUOTE] It's not safe to generalize this. Permanent damages can and has occured in the past from software overvolting for instance: [video=youtube;sRo-1VFMcbc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc[/video]
You almost always have to overvolt if you want to make an overclock that improves more than neglectable frame rates. Regardless, use common sense and increment values a bit at a time. Don't ramp up any sliders to the max end right off the bat.
Well I am getting only 30 fps with all settings maxed out in 1080. I have shadowplay running but I doubt it would reduce FPS that much. Is my FX-8350 fucking this whole thing up? (Hopefully not)
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;46929659]Well I am getting only 30 fps with all settings maxed out in 1080. I have shadowplay running but I doubt it would reduce FPS that much. [B]Is my FX-8350 fucking this whole thing up?[/B] (Hopefully not)[/QUOTE] It probably is. AMD CPUs of the last few generations are utter garbage.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;46929678]It probably is. AMD CPUs of the last few generations are utter garbage.[/QUOTE] Guess I will have to get cooler and try overclocking it to 4.8, that's cheapest option for me. Can't afford new mobo and cpu right now.
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;46929659]Well I am getting only 30 fps with all settings maxed out in 1080. I have shadowplay running but I doubt it would reduce FPS that much. Is my FX-8350 fucking this whole thing up? (Hopefully not)[/QUOTE] Probably not, What game is this?
[QUOTE=Cold;46929940]Probably not, What game is this?[/QUOTE] AC Unity.
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;46929970]AC Unity.[/QUOTE] Thats pretty much normal [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW3GdR4Gnzc[/media] Like totalbiscuit mentioned, and as you can also see in the above video, at 6:36 he turns AA off, and it almost doubled the FPS.
I am trying my luck with trading my old gtx 560 1gb for liquid cooler with bit of cash or performance cooler with bit of cash on Irish advert boards. Hope that works :v:
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46930056]You're being incredibly optimistic.[/QUOTE] Yeah, no harm to try though. Put up two ads: For sale for 45 Euro. And for swap. Hopefully one of those gets taken.
You can overclock the FX-8350 quite a lot, but depending on what you use your PC for it won't have any meaningful impact.
[QUOTE=Cold;46930873]You can overclock the FX-8350 quite a lot, but depending on what you use your PC for it won't have any meaningful impact.[/QUOTE] I use it mostly for 3D Rendering, Programming, Photoshop, sometimes video processing (when recording stuff), Movies, and well - Games. Also, how accurate is 3D Mark for benchmarking?
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;46929657]You almost always have to overvolt if you want to make an overclock that improves more than neglectable frame rates. Regardless, use common sense and increment values a bit at a time. Don't ramp up any sliders to the max end right off the bat.[/QUOTE] Max voltage only voltage. To OP: I've never used ASUS's program, but with EVGA Precision or MSI Afterburner generally the voltage slider is safe where ever it can go because the manufacturers lock the voltage in the BIOS. The only way to get super frying voltages is to flash a custom BIOS on your card. [editline]14th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Cold;46930873]You can overclock the FX-8350 quite a lot, but depending on what you use your PC for it won't have any meaningful impact.[/QUOTE] If he's doing anything CPU intensive, or gaming, it will help. A lot.
I just ran 12 tests on 3D Mark with following profiles: Stock Dedicated PhysX Card. Stock No Dedicated PhysX Card. Stock CPU PhysX Mode. OC Dedicated PhysX Card. OC No Dedicated PhysX Card. OC CPU PhysX Mode. 6 of those of: Sky Diver and Fire Strike (Some heavy shit that is). My findings are somewhat interesting. What would be best way to visualize results? I would love to make some kind of graph or something rather than just raw text with numbers. Or at least table would do :> Also, yeah I ended up going for it and maxed out all GPU Tweak settings except Temp Target. No problems whatsoever, max Temp Hit was 75 Deg, and max CPU fan speed was 3051 RPM.
the cool thing is I got EVGA's FTW card for $349, which was a steal. massive OC, so nice that I don't have to touch it.
[QUOTE=Levelog;46932249] If he's doing anything CPU intensive, or gaming, it will help. A lot.[/QUOTE] Gaming isn't CPU intensive tho, even the few games that are considered to be CPU heavy, won't get close to maxing out an FX-8350. Video processing is afaik GPU accelerated now a days, and Rendering is only CPU heavy if you need a CPU raytracer.
[QUOTE=Cold;46932647]Gaming isn't CPU intensive tho, even the few games that are considered to be CPU heavy, won't get close to maxing out an FX-8350.[/QUOTE] They won't max out the FX because they aren't going to be utilizing all 8 threads, they're sure as hell going to be maxing out it's IPC. Which can be increased by overclocking.
8 cores comes in handy in Vray in 3ds max rendering. The more cores the more segments rendering at same time. The faster core speed the faster segment renders. So both, cores and speed is quite needed for me. + I want to have a bit higher bottleneck plank if my CPU decides to do it on my video card.
[QUOTE=Levelog;46932731]They won't max out the FX because they aren't going to be utilizing all 8 threads, they're sure as hell going to be maxing out it's IPC. Which can be increased by overclocking.[/QUOTE] I don't think you have a clue what IPC means.
[QUOTE=Cold;46932872]I don't IPC means what you think it means.[/QUOTE] You're right in a way, I do tend to use IPC in lieu of single threaded performance, because it's a big factor in it. The FX has notoriously shit single threaded performance. This is what a lot of games rely on. If you think a stock FX 8350 can handle any game you are seriously wrong.
[QUOTE=Levelog;46932918]You're right in a way, I do tend to use IPC in lieu of single threaded performance, because it's a big factor in it. The FX has notoriously shit single threaded performance. This is what a lot of games rely on. If you think a stock FX 8350 can handle any game you are seriously wrong.[/QUOTE] A FX-8350 can run any game at stock clock speed, give me anything i presumably can't play, and ill provide you a nice 60fps recording from my FX-8350 machine.
What is this shit? [img]http://oi61.tinypic.com/25psh3l.jpg[/img] Does it mean CPU is bottlenecking my GPU? I mean Graphics tests show gain while Physics drop.
[QUOTE=Cold;46933039]A FX-8350 can run any game at stock clock speed, give me anything i presumably can't play, and ill provide you a nice 60fps recording from my FX-8350 machine.[/QUOTE] Try large battles in MMO's, such as Planetside 2 or Guild Wars 2. Or Total War games. The FX-8350 just isn't a worthwhile upgrade to what he's got, and overclocking will be far more valuable.
[QUOTE=Levelog;46933411]Try large battles in MMO's, such as Planetside 2 or Guild Wars 2. Or Total War games. The FX-8350 just isn't a worthwhile upgrade to what he's got, and overclocking will be far more valuable.[/QUOTE] Its not an upgrade, he [B]has[/B] an 8350.
[QUOTE=Cold;46933591]Its not an upgrade, he [B]has[/B] an 8350.[/QUOTE] Fuck me. I mixed up two threads and the two points I was trying to make. He still will benefit from overclocking the processor, especially with a powerful GPU like the 970. That's why my last couple posts didn't necessarily make sense...
[QUOTE=Levelog;46933739]Fuck me. I mixed up two threads and the two points I was trying to make. He still will benefit from overclocking the processor, especially with a powerful GPU like the 970. That's why my last couple posts didn't necessarily make sense...[/QUOTE] Yeah is it just me or is there literally +300% boost in GPU questions today.
[QUOTE=Levelog;46933739]Fuck me. I mixed up two threads and the two points I was trying to make. He still will benefit from overclocking the processor, especially with a powerful GPU like the 970. That's why my last couple posts didn't necessarily make sense...[/QUOTE] There are considerations to be made when you need to buy the coolers. Running VRay on the CPU would be a one hell of a good reason, but the impact of OCing a 8350 to get increased gameplay performance is only situationally even gonna have a measurable difference.
[QUOTE=Cold;46933905]There are considerations to be made when you need to buy the coolers. Running VRay on the CPU would be a one hell of a reason, but the impact of OCing a 8350 to get increased gameplay performance is only situationally even gonna have a measurable difference.[/QUOTE] Overclocking CPU is my cheapest option currently, I can't afford new mobo and cpu, while liquid cooler can be bought for under 90 eur.
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;46933938]Overclocking CPU is my cheapest option currently, I can't afford new mobo and cpu, while liquid cooler can be bought for under 90 eur.[/QUOTE] I am saying you shouldn't even bother trying to increase CPU performance, it won't give you a (significant) fps increase in games. Unless you need specific Vray features that are only available when it runs in CPU mode, just run it on the GPU, its 15-30 times faster.
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