Is it better if Half-Life 2 Episode 3 never comes out?
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its a fact that its been delayed so long to a point that it feels like it does not matter anymore, or at least we dont care
as much as we did before.
As a title this delayed it may suffer the consecuences of it, at put the bar so high it virtually wont be reached.
What do you think, facepunch?
they probably aren't even working on it
That just sounds completely retarded :v: I'm sorry op but, what the fuck are you thinking?
It leaves the game completely dead for stupid reasons. "Because it came out late", lol, ok, there are tons of late games. It's a billion times better to be disappointed slightly than to have not had that chance at all.
it'll be the same story as duke nukem forever, decent enough game that's in dev hell for so long that everyone is disappointed when it comes out
[QUOTE=butre;40967069]it'll be the same story as duke nukem forever, decent enough game that's in dev hell for so long that everyone is disappointed when it comes out[/QUOTE]
Duke Nukem switched devs like 4 times though, and kept having to switch engines.
In my opinion, it is.
With valve not showing nothing at E3 this year(and last year) it makes us feel as if no one is working on. It will be so much speculations over a series that is already considered dead. And with the company not making and games past 2, it seems like it won't matter if it came out, or if it didn't come out at all
Really, to be completely honest, what could they do that would be original? Everybody's making "shoot these aliens" games nowadays. The only thing unique about Half Life's mechanics in this era is being able to walk around in a cutscene and physics puzzles. There's nothing revolutionary to be found in shooter games anymore; what are they gonna do, invent a new genre?
[QUOTE=butre;40967069]it'll be the same story as duke nukem forever, decent enough game that's in dev hell for so long that everyone is disappointed when it comes out[/QUOTE]
I love how people keep saying this
Duke Nukem forever was far beyond this kind of shit. it had many engine changes and had to be redone many times, and even if valve redoes it, it's within THEIR own studio with THEIR own engine, not another studio or engine.
It's their biggest name, do you really think Valve is going to be that stupid and clumsy about it and just release garbage? I'm not saying they are flawless, but, they aren't some shitty low budget low worker studio either.
[QUOTE=Yogkog;40967090]Duke Nukem switched devs like 4 times though, and kept having to switch engines.[/QUOTE]
Hl2 Ep3 probably had engine upgrades all the way in its development.
The only thing that EP3 would have going for it would be Half Life fanboys who want to see how it is. The rest of the market would just see a shooter set in an inhospitable wasteland where you kill aliens.
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Well fuck you too automerge.
I trust Valve well enough at this point to assume that they wouldn't fuck up one of their main franchises.
I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it.
Even Duke Nukem Forever came out, so yes, Half-Life 3/Episode 3 has to come out.
It leaves a shitty cliffhanger ending otherwise.
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;40967104]Really, to be completely honest, what could they do that would be original? Everybody's making "shoot these aliens" games nowadays. The only thing unique about Half Life's mechanics in this era is being able to walk around in a cutscene and physics puzzles. There's nothing revolutionary to be found in shooter games anymore; what are they gonna do, invent a new genre?[/QUOTE]
Do what they did 15 years ago
[QUOTE=megafat;40967145]Even Duke Nukem Forever came out, so yes, Half-Life 3/Episode 3 has to come out.
It leaves a shitty cliffhanger ending otherwise.[/QUOTE]
This is why Hero's deserved another season really :v:
It was the ultimate cliffhanger, an epic tale of su-
[QUOTE=megafat;40967145]Even Duke Nukem Forever came out, so yes, Half-Life 3/Episode 3 has to come out.
It leaves a shitty cliffhanger ending otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Some games do that, but I highly doubt Valve will.
[QUOTE=Cosa8888;40967148]Do what they did 15 years ago[/QUOTE]
That makes no sense. 15 years ago, the gaming market wasn't very diverse. There was 15 more years of things to be invented and discovered. It's unbelievably difficult if not impossible to "revolutionize" the shooter genre after it's been done to death where most people just care about rehashes and explosions.
ive lost hope a while ago
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;40967180]That makes no sense. 15 years ago, the gaming market wasn't very diverse. There was 15 more years of things to be invented and discovered. It's unbelievably difficult if not impossible to "revolutionize" the shooter genre after it's been done to death where most people just care about rehashes and explosions.[/QUOTE]
Yeah look at the Call of Duty franchise, it has just been re-used over and over and I honestly hate them now.
There should just be HL3 if there is ever a new half life game, or Blue Shift 2
i hope they announce something this year.
or next year.
or the year after that.
or eventually.
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;40967118]The only thing that EP3 would have going for it would be Half Life fanboys who want to see how it is. The rest of the market would just see a shooter set in an inhospitable wasteland where you kill aliens.
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Well fuck you too automerge.[/QUOTE]
There is this thing that some developers do called 'gameplay development' which generally involves creating new and interesting mechanics so that even subsequent games in the same series feel new and fresh and exciting
You're talking about Ep3/HL3 as though Valve is sitting in a cave with no contact with the rest of the gaming industry. They're not stupid; they're not going to just take every single gameplay mechanic and piece of code from Ep2 and build Ep3/HL3 using that.
[QUOTE=Ian;40967291]i hope they announce something this year.
or next year.
or the year after that.
or [I][B]eventually[/B][/I].[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Yogkog;40967090]Duke Nukem switched devs like 4 times though, and kept having to switch engines.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about the way the game got hyped for 14 years and then turned out being only pretty ok and not super awesome best game ever, not the development cycle itself
[QUOTE=butre;40967352]I'm talking about the way the game got hyped for 14 years and then turned out being only pretty ok and not super awesome best game ever, not the development cycle itself[/QUOTE]
to be fair, considering how everything else contributed so much on the poor quality, its a horrible example.
[QUOTE=J!NX;40967366]to be fair, considering how everything else contributed so much on the poor quality, its a horrible example.[/QUOTE]
except dnf wasn't a bad game like everyone says
I'd definitely ignore one of the biggest selling franchises ever if I was working at Valve too.
Lolno not really what are you thinking OP.
[QUOTE=butre;40967420]except dnf wasn't a bad game like everyone says[/QUOTE]
thats because the game media is full of shit and people are just buttangry it wasn't as legendary as they thought it'd be.
Team Fortress 2 took ten years and that turned out great. They're probably taking their time and exploring different directions and scrapping whatever doesn't work. The is the final Half-Life game, after all (or at least the last one featuring Gordon Freeman.) Anything worth doing is worth doing right.
I seriously doubt Valve has even thought of canning the Half-Life franchise. If they stopped working on it, why does every new game they release seem to have snippets of code that suggests a new Half-Life game has been in some form of development?
While I admit Valve hasn't had a perfect trackrecord lately, I'm not quite so cynical to assume they've canned their biggest franchise on a cliffhanger simply because of the profit that Steam and TF2 gives them.
[QUOTE=Mjolnir82991;40967457]Team Fortress 2 took ten years and that turned out great. They're probably taking their time and exploring different directions and scrapping whatever doesn't work. The is the final Half-Life game, after all (or at least the last one featuring Gordon Freeman.) Anything worth doing is worth doing right.[/QUOTE]
Last one featuring Alyx/The Combine as prominent figures; not the last one featuring Gordon
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