• Occult and magick
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So is there any mages and practitioners on FP? For you mundanes and muggles, magick is real&works. In some definitions of word magick, you are doing magick with each mental action. To be a magician is to understand the action-reaction between your subconscious and your reality and learn to utilize it to some extent to attain your Will.
i can pull a tophat out of a rabbits arse
If you put a owls ear, some cow dung, and mandrake into a potion, let it sit for an hour, it will make this thread go away.
In about 6 years time i'll become a wizard, assuming I don't cave in and hire a prostitute.
You can joke all you want but people who get it do reap quite a lot. Energy manipulation in social situations have become an everyday practice for me and it had tremendous effects on my life. And that's most communicable, "sanest" part of my practice. These videos might help some of you to get some insights and see the link between science and consciousness/evolution: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXB1dg1QZU[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiCyZx2J8E4[/url]
Now I get it! :pwn:
[QUOTE=mushroompizza;46096390]Now I get it! :pwn:[/QUOTE] I don't expect you to get anything. This thread is not meant to teach you anything either. Only real way of true learning is contemplation and meditation. To denounce existance of all subtle forces you have to deny quantum physics, mechanics. Consciousness and your moment-to-moment experience is not that of physical nature, it doesn't have beholdable form or shape. That's a good thing to hold on to if you want to learn more. [editline]28th September 2014[/editline] Real wisdom comes when you let your contemplating mind let go boundaries of language and social context that you have soldified into your mind and accepted as true reality. You are sole authority over your experience and reality, even though you might not be aware of it.
Personally I'm not sure about the legitimacy of "magic" at our current tech-level. Whilst there's Clarke's Law that says any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, the way I define magic is the ability to manipulate the world with thought patterns used to influence energies, like telekinesis and being able to make fire with a snap of your fingers, such things being beyond us without sufficient mechanical aid. At our current tech level, we cannot manipulate the fabric of the universe directly though we have technology to take care of that to a limited extent. However as sentient beings with an ever-growing understanding of the universe, we might one day invent some sort of technology that allows people to manipulate energy in a similar fashion to the wizards of fantasy, likely involving some sort of brain-computer interface to interact with some sort of airborne nanotechnology specialized in manipulating various kinds of energies, though it would probably only be a big thing after thousands of years of scientific research.
Okay okay this is your magic thread I won't come here and ruin it... hope you have a fun time.... Come on guys lets not debate him lets just let him be....
[QUOTE=RobbL;46096239]i can pull a tophat out of a rabbits arse[/QUOTE]And yet when I pull a rabbit out of my arse, I get the police called on me :/
[QUOTE=ironman17;46096466]Personally I'm not sure about the legitimacy of "magic" at our current tech-level. Whilst there's Clarke's Law that says any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, the way I define magic is the ability to manipulate the world with thought patterns used to influence energies, like telekinesis and being able to make fire with a snap of your fingers, such things being beyond us without sufficient mechanical aid. At our current tech level, we cannot manipulate the fabric of the universe directly though we have technology to take care of that to a limited extent. However as sentient beings with an ever-growing understanding of the universe, we might one day invent some sort of technology that allows people to manipulate energy in a similar fashion to the wizards of fantasy, likely involving some sort of brain-computer interface to interact with some sort of airborne nanotechnology specialized in manipulating various kinds of energies, though it would probably only be a big thing after thousands of years of scientific research.[/QUOTE] I think the point is that current technologies are indistinguishable from magic to someone with no knowledge of them. Obviously the average person living in the US is not going to hold the belief that smartphones are magic. But show one to someone who's never even used a lightbulb, and they will call it magic.
Suggested books for people who are actually open minded enough to entertain the idea of Occult: Liber Null & Psychonaut by Peter J. Carroll High Magick by Frater U.D. Initiation into Hermetics by Franz Bardon (I think Astral Travel part of this book should be skipped since it contains some limiting and questionable personal beliefs of author) Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall These books are barely scratching the surface though. Occult works are highly subjective and are something to not to put any kind of limiting belief on.
Can you magic me up a gf pls
[QUOTE=SHOH;46097450]Can you magic me up a gf pls[/QUOTE] Try learning about sigil magick. It is easy and if you don't get it right first time, you will intuitively know what you have to fix for it to work the second time. Give it a shot, it should be pretty easy to get a mate. [editline]28th September 2014[/editline] [url]http://runesoup.com/2012/03/ultimate-sigil-magic-guide/[/url] [editline]28th September 2014[/editline] [url]http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/confused.html[/url]
have you turned lead into gold i tried it but i got lead poisoning and died i am currently using magic to post here from hell
[QUOTE=RobbL;46097686]have you turned lead into gold i tried it but i got lead poisoning and died i am currently using magic to post here from hell[/QUOTE] Whole lead to gold thing is actually metaphorical and is more about transformation of soul. Can you actually turn lead to gold after going through alchemical steps? You bet you can. Why don't you see anyone doing it? Because you are not in that reality. For more information refer to: [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=DGyYIJpMC-k[/url]
Seriously though, what mystical traditions do you subscribe to? It's all bull to me but I'm still interested to hear you out
[QUOTE=RobbL;46097776]Seriously though, what mystical traditions do you subscribe to? It's all bull to me but I'm still interested to hear you out[/QUOTE] I'm more of an raw magick guy. I have experience with almost everything including Goetia, ATRs, etc but I'm mostly into energy manipulation and direct manipulation of subconscious with as less physcial tools as possible. [editline]28th September 2014[/editline] I mostly shine at social energy manipulation and bending people to my Will. In fact I have whole university class convinced that I'm "illuminatee" even though I have never spoke about any kind of spirituality in academic environment.
Mysticism can be cool, and is interesting regardless. It's something that is totally experiential and subjective when you get down to the heart of it, and so doesn't necessarily contradict scientific thought and method Belief in actual magic should be confined to the pre-renaissance world though
[QUOTE=RobbL;46097919] Belief in actual magic should be confined to the pre-renaissance world though[/QUOTE] If you would ever see the face of evoked demon on black mirror, smell it, talk with it, have absolutely unexplainable miracles happen in accordance to your workings, make girls obsess over you with programming single gaze, then you would never say that.
[QUOTE=HJ23;46097952]If you would ever see the face of evoked demon on black mirror, smell it, talk with it, have absolutely unexplainable miracles happen in accordance to your workings, make girls obsess over you with programming single gaze, then you would never say that.[/QUOTE] No, I'd lay off the psychedelics
[QUOTE=HJ23;46097952]If you would ever see the face of evoked demon on black mirror, smell it, talk with it, have absolutely unexplainable miracles happen in accordance to your workings, make girls obsess over you with programming single gaze, then you would never say that.[/QUOTE] Oh I get it - magic mushrooms
[QUOTE=RobbL;46097964]No, I'd lay off the psychedelics[/QUOTE] You are just speculating.
[QUOTE=HJ23;46097981]You are just speculating.[/QUOTE] I couldn't say demons and whatnot don't exist with absolute 100% diamond hard certainty but burden of proof and all that
[QUOTE=RobbL;46098004]I couldn't say demons and whatnot don't exist with absolute 100% diamond hard certainty but burden of proof and all that[/QUOTE] You can't expect to have same kind of proof that you have for inter-dimensional stuff, for extra-dimensional entities. You lose it when you denounce the infinity of creation and accept humans as special and your reality as only reality. Kinda selfish.
Can you speak to demons?
[QUOTE=SHOH;46098066]Can you speak to demons?[/QUOTE] Many things could fall under "demons". Infinite multiverse contains every conceivable and unconceivable setting. When it comes to demons as most Occultists know it however: [url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_Key_of_Solomon[/url]
Can you ask them where my lost socks are?
[QUOTE=HJ23;46098038] You lose it when you denounce the infinity of creation and accept humans as special and your reality as only reality. Kinda selfish.[/QUOTE] Could you elaborate what you mean here?
[QUOTE=SHOH;46098102]Can you ask them where my lost socks are?[/QUOTE] Instead of being a smartass, I suggest you do sigil magick and you might be surprised how fast you can get a girlfriend. You seem like you have a lot of time to waste anyway, so give it a shot. [editline]28th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=RobbL;46098148]Could you elaborate what you mean here?[/QUOTE] I'm trying to say that there are real Infinity out there. Your consciousness is surfer on ocean of infinite multiverses.
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