[QUOTE]A Wyoming legislative panel on Friday advanced a bill that would authorize the state to use a firing squad to execute inmates on death-row if prison officials fail to obtain drugs for lethal injections.
Wyoming is among a few states that have considered bringing back largely abandoned execution methods like the firing squad. Lawmakers have explored alternatives as the most common method of lethal injection has come under more scrutiny and death-penalty states have struggled to procure drugs to carry out death sentences. Recent flawed executions, including a nearly two-hour lethal injection in Arizona, have intensified the debate.
No state employs firing squads as a primary execution method, but Utah and Oklahoma permit death-row inmates to be shot under certain, narrow circumstances, according to the Death Penalty Information Center, which collects and aggregates data on capital punishment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Wyoming, which has executed one inmate since 1976, has one prisoner on death row, Dale Wayne Eaton, who was sentenced to death in 2004 for murdering an 18-year-old woman.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-LB-49203[/url]
Good to see the state isn't just giving up. Lethal injection is overly complicated and the only benefit over other methods is that it's a 'nicer' way to kill a man.
what if you shoot a man and he doesn't die? Isn't that the same as botching lethal injection?
I honestly don't know someone inform me on this
I guess if you have to have the death sentence in your state, a firing squad is much more desirable than lethal injection.
[QUOTE=Foxton;46946596]what if you shoot a man and he doesn't die? Isn't that the same as botching lethal injection?
I honestly don't know someone inform me on this[/QUOTE]
Bazooka
I wish there was a way to get those inmates who are on execution list to oversea countries and rehabilitate them here, at least give them a chance. It would be win-win for both US - they get rid of unwanted people and European human values.
I can't understand how any developed country still does executions and i dont think i will.
Why dont they just connect a computer running a random number generator to this suicide helmet.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/0bVIYlf.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/mgesP2X.jpg[/t]
This helmet even has a failsafe in case something goes wrong.
[QUOTE]My brother-in-law shadowed a coroner for a few weeks who showed him this strange contraption from a case 40+ years old. Apparently a young man constructed a suicide helmet that fired eight shotgun shells into his head simultaneously.
From my brother-in-law: "At the apex of each projection there is a hollow metal tube into which a nail was fitted so as to be very close to the primer on each of the protrusion's shotgun shells. The inside pic [below] shows a few of the shells pretty clearly. The nails were all wired together as well and wire leads were then attached to an arc welder which was to provide the electricity that would ignite the primer and cause them to fire. The nails are all absent from the helmet in its current state, as are the wires that connected the nails together, and the wire that was to connect to the arc welder. The wiring was believed to be metal from coat hangers. The whole helmet is covered in a fiberglass/epoxy shell that both maintained the integrity of the helmet during the blast and contained the resulting mess.
The side with the three protrusions was the front, and the one at the top of the head was wired up like the others, but also had a manual activation, as though it was his fail-safe if the electricity didn't cause the shells to fire. There's a bit of rubber tubing that was designed to go from one side of the protrusion on the top of the helmet to the other side of that same protrusion, like a sling-shot. The pathologist that did the autopsy said that the rubber tubing was attached to the nail in the top such that the nail could be pulled straight up, which put tension on the tubing and when released would propel the nail into the primer of the top shell, causing it to detonate and fire.
There are holes visible in the helmet opposite some of the shells - they're the holes from the shot - .33 inch lead balls - that passed through his head and embedded themselves in the helmet. He knew something about the skull: thicker and stronger at the front where he placed three shells. it would have made more sense - for maximum kill power - to put the shells at his temples, but it seems like he may have been trying to tic boxes for both 'homogenous skull obliteration' and 'maximum death.' This kid was sharp. On one side, there's a hole through the helmet from the shell opposite it. It also looks like he placed the shells in such a way so the shot would penetrate the majority of the brain tissue. The inside pic shows this pretty well and you can see the holes at 6, 12, and 2 o'clock opposite the shells at 12, 6, and 7 o'clock respectively. The others were aimed downward enough to miss the helmet oppositely, or simply didn't go through the cranium. Not only was this a feat of electrical design, but it had a backup system, and was made specifically to defeat the skull anatomy. This kid was brilliant. And all pre-internet."[/QUOTE]
tl;dr: There is no kill like overkill
[QUOTE=Foxton;46946596]what if you shoot a man and he doesn't die? Isn't that the same as botching lethal injection?
I honestly don't know someone inform me on this[/QUOTE]
From what I am told, They use high caliber rifles. Also, its pretty common that there are more than one person in a firing squad. To ensure that the person being executed dies immediately, rather than having to suffer with a bullet in their throat.
Ahh the firing squad, one of the only true ways to die like a patriot.
why would you shoot a man before throwing him out of a cell?
[QUOTE=Foxton;46946596]what if you shoot a man and he doesn't die? Isn't that the same as botching lethal injection?
I honestly don't know someone inform me on this[/QUOTE]
In china, the government pays for the first bullet. If he doesn't die, then the soldier that is shooting will pay for every bullet onwards.
may as well be direct, rather than brew all that lethal injection shit
[QUOTE=ADSmaster724;46946643]From what I am told, They use high caliber rifles. Also, its pretty common that there are more than one person in a firing squad. To ensure that the person being executed dies immediately, rather than having to suffer with a bullet in their throat.[/QUOTE]
The way firing squads usually work, lets say you have 5 guys, you either have 4 blanks and one live or 4 lives and 1 blank. That way the no one in the firing squad knows who took the mans life and that somehow absolves everyone of their guilt.
With that said, its pretty easy to differentiate a live from a blank due to recoil, and you also have issues of the firing squad aiming for limbs or purposely missing so their round isn't the one that kills him.
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[QUOTE=Ragekipz;46946996]In china, the government pays for the first bullet. If he doesn't die, then the soldier that is shooting will pay for every bullet onwards.[/QUOTE]
wow so if the guy uses up 2 extra bullets he may end up paying a whole 15 cent.
Why not just use high explosives?
bring back death by arena
This may be a stupid question,
But why wouldn't they use carbon monoxide for a controlled painless death in a gas chamber or whatever?
[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;46947218]bring back death by arena[/QUOTE]give them chainsaws and put it on cable
[QUOTE=Tasm;46947261]This may be a stupid question,
But why wouldn't they use carbon monoxide for a controlled painless death in a gas chamber or whatever?[/QUOTE]
I think because then people would be likening them to nazi gas chambers.
[QUOTE=Tasm;46947261]This may be a stupid question,
But why wouldn't they use carbon monoxide for a controlled painless death in a gas chamber or whatever?[/QUOTE]
Because suffocation turned out to be very very drawn out, Virginia built one, tried it once and the results were gruisome
[QUOTE=Joazzz;46947279]give them chainsaws and put it on cable[/QUOTE]
Pay-per-view death gladiator arena would probably earn a shitload. People say the death penalty is too expensive, this is actually one somewhat gruesome way to make it profitable instead.
[editline]16th January 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sableye;46947312]Because suffocation turned out to be very very drawn out, Virginia built one, tried it once and the results were gruisome[/QUOTE]
California used gas chambers for a while too, even post-war.
Fuck it, death by nuclear explosion.
If I had to go out by execution, I'd actually demand this.
[QUOTE=Sableye;46947312]Because suffocation turned out to be very very drawn out, Virginia built one, tried it once and the results were gruisome[/QUOTE]
Carbon monoxide is far from gruesome. It puts you to sleep.
Hell yeah, THAT'S my kind of humane execution!!!!!!!!
Well i guess if you were a highly wanted criminal and had to be sentenced to death by firing squad. At least you get the dignity of going out with a bang.
Thats how i think of it anyway.
[QUOTE=Tasm;46947371]Carbon monoxide is far from gruesome. It puts you to sleep.[/QUOTE]
Yeah how many people do you think are gonna just quietly sit there until they're out?
I remember reading up on this in the past, they did it once in Utah. The death row inmate specifically requested it to the governor and his wish was granted. 5 police volunteers were placed in pre-set positions aiming at the chest of the blindfolded inmate, and simply pulled the trigger. 4 of the 5 guns had live rounds, and one had a blank, ensuring that no one knew who made the actual kill. The inmate died within seconds according to the autopsy report.
Weird coincidence I was just asking about Wyoming.
[quote]Wyoming, which has executed one inmate since 1976, [b]has one prisoner on death row[/b], Dale Wayne Eaton, who was sentenced to death in 2004 for murdering an 18-year-old woman.[/quote]
lol, what's the point in going through all this trouble for one inmate?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;46947059]The way firing squads usually work, lets say you have 5 guys, you either have 4 blanks and one live or 4 lives and 1 blank. That way the no one in the firing squad knows who took the mans life and that somehow absolves everyone of their guilt.
With that said, its pretty easy to differentiate a live from a blank due to recoil, and you also have issues of the firing squad aiming for limbs or purposely missing so their round isn't the one that kills him.
[editline]16th January 2015[/editline]
wow so if the guy uses up 2 extra bullets he may end up paying a whole 15 cent.[/QUOTE]
Also even if it was impossible to differentiate between the blank and a live round, it's really not going to absolve the shooters of guilt.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46947591]Also even if it was impossible to differentiate between the blank and a live round, it's really not going to absolve the shooters of guilt.[/QUOTE]
what about a stationary gun that gets triggered by a computer? You don't need a human pulling the trigger to get the job done.
Too bad we aren't spacefaring yet. We could just dump prisoners on a crappy liveable planet and make an Australia planet and forget about em
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