• The strangest socket i have ever seen in my life, what is this?
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I got myself one of those small formfactor Lenovo Thinkcentre's for like 10 bucks, Pentium D @3Ghz (Dual-Core obviously), 4GB of 800Mhz DDR2, 500GB HDD. I was going to put in a better graphics card, one of those smaller ones, and i see this, now the riser card is using a PCI-e 16x slot to plug into the motherboard, the socket for some reason is backwards, so I can't plug a card right into the motherboard, anyway i am guessing this is some sort of a weird deformed pci-e mutant. [IMG]http://i.imgbox.com/abznGJGE.jpg[/IMG]
I can't see it because the picture is too dark, but are you sure that by some awful design it's not AGP?
[QUOTE=Levelog;43403965]I can't see it because the picture is too dark, but are you sure that by some awful design it's not AGP?[/QUOTE] It's not AGP, since you can't see the picture, it's like a PCI-e slot with blankings in random places.
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It's another one of those failed proprietary slots that nothing uses. I think the only card that exists for that slot was made by IBM/Lenovo: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lenovo-39J9334-ADD2-R-DVI-I-PCI-E-ThinkCentre-Video-Connection-Adapter-PCI-e-/271007917279?_trksid=p2054897.l4275[/url] It's not technically a graphics adapter, it's just some basic glue logic to map the IGP on some Intel chipsets to an external DVI port. There's also a regular PCIe version, and from my experience with the PCIe version is they never work properly.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;43410913]It's another one of those failed proprietary slots that nothing uses. I think the only card that exists for that slot was made by IBM/Lenovo: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lenovo-39J9334-ADD2-R-DVI-I-PCI-E-ThinkCentre-Video-Connection-Adapter-PCI-e-/271007917279?_trksid=p2054897.l4275[/url] It's not technically a graphics adapter, it's just some basic glue logic to map the IGP on some Intel chipsets to an external DVI port. There's also a regular PCIe version, and from my experience with the PCIe version is they never work properly.[/QUOTE] I guess all computer builders tap into their inner PackardBell at some point and build a turd.
I'd love to get a hold of the PCIe version, since it is a good computer overall.
[QUOTE=tirpider;43412332]I guess all computer builders tap into their inner PackardBell at some point and build a turd.[/QUOTE] Packard Bell? They were normal compared to Compaq. Compaq PCs from their inception up until probably 2005 used the most idiotic backwards design principles and proprietary setups imaginable. All of this in the effort to force you to buy their overpriced replacement parts when something inevitably broke. Most of their machines used torx screws (the star pattern) with non-standard threads and were fatter and longer than standard PC screws. Their floppy drives used oval eject buttons that poked through a hole in the face plate (so you had to carve a square hole to use a generic one, which you'd want to do since the Compaq drives were notoriously unreliable.) And most of their consumer grade machines up until almost 2000 had the ISA/PCI/AGP card slots on a separate backplane that the motherboard plugged into. It wasn't unusual for the entire backplane to stop working because of oxidized connectors to the motherboard, or to have bus glitches because the traces to the slots were way beyond the length constraints of the slot standards. Oh and their cancerous design principles spread to HP when they bought Compaq to further the train wreck of HPs already terrible designs. [QUOTE=Sn0peK;43417135]I'd love to get a hold of the PCIe version, since it is a good computer overall.[/QUOTE] Why? It's a waste of money. Money better spent on a discrete GPU that has orders of magnitude more power than a shitty old Intel GMA IGP. Even a PCI GPU would have more power on the limited 133 MB/s bus.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;43447020]Packard Bell? They were normal compared to Compaq. Compaq PCs from their inception up until probably 2005 used the most idiotic backwards design principles and proprietary setups imaginable. All of this in the effort to force you to buy their overpriced replacement parts when something inevitably broke. [B]Most of their machines used torx screws (the star pattern) with non-standard threads and were fatter and longer than standard PC screws.[/B] Their floppy drives used oval eject buttons that poked through a hole in the face plate (so you had to carve a square hole to use a generic one, which you'd want to do since the Compaq drives were notoriously unreliable.) And most of their consumer grade machines up until almost 2000 had the ISA/PCI/AGP card slots on a separate backplane that the motherboard plugged into. It wasn't unusual for the entire backplane to stop working because of oxidized connectors to the motherboard, or to have bus glitches because the traces to the slots were way beyond the length constraints of the slot standards. Oh and their cancerous design principles spread to HP when they bought Compaq to further the train wreck of HPs already terrible designs. Why? It's a waste of money. Money better spent on a discrete GPU that has orders of magnitude more power than a shitty old Intel GMA IGP. Even a PCI GPU would have more power on the limited 133 MB/s bus.[/QUOTE] fucking this.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;43447020]Packard Bell? They were normal compared to Compaq. Compaq PCs from their inception up until probably 2005 used the most idiotic backwards design principles and proprietary setups imaginable. All of this in the effort to force you to buy their overpriced replacement parts when something inevitably broke. Most of their machines used torx screws (the star pattern) with non-standard threads and were fatter and longer than standard PC screws. Their floppy drives used oval eject buttons that poked through a hole in the face plate (so you had to carve a square hole to use a generic one, which you'd want to do since the Compaq drives were notoriously unreliable.) And most of their consumer grade machines up until almost 2000 had the ISA/PCI/AGP card slots on a separate backplane that the motherboard plugged into. It wasn't unusual for the entire backplane to stop working because of oxidized connectors to the motherboard, or to have bus glitches because the traces to the slots were way beyond the length constraints of the slot standards. Oh and their cancerous design principles spread to HP when they bought Compaq to further the train wreck of HPs already terrible designs. [/QUOTE] Right on. I had totally forgot about Compaq. Got my start with PCs doing upgrades and maintenance on these bastards at Best Buy. I remember spending days hunting down drivers for PB's stupid combo sound/modem/turd cards. Of course PB didn't have them, and the stupid crystal audio reference drivers never worked right. For me that overshadowed the Compaq's cause it meant having to explain what an internet was to management. I had an old isa riser card (PB of course) that had the sound card integrated into it along with 3 isa slots of it's own. Used it till I could afford a sound blaster (min wage tech monkey). The only thing I miss from those days was the company bbs and the green screens. /nostalgia Proprietary designs like that suck. They always have and always will.
I remember those terrible combo cards. After messing with a couple of them, I just threw them away afterwards and replaced them with a cheap winmodem and ESS sound card.
Looks like a PCI/ADD2 riser card. I believe you can use a add2 video card on that thing.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;43447020]Why? It's a waste of money.[/QUOTE] I mean, i want to get a hold of the raiser card with a PCI-e slot so that i can put a low profile graphics card in there. Also sorry for the late reply, i forgot about this thread.
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