• What EXACTLY is irony?
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I always thought, that when something opposite of the expected result happened, it could be described as Irony. So when watching an episode of Castle just now, Richard Castle finds a newspaper below a dead body. The headslines of that newspaper say "Will killer strike again?". While the next victim of that killer was lying on top of that newspaper. And Castle called it Irony. I don't think it's irony, but mere coincidence, what does FP think? Also, earlier in the series, Castle said he hated the mis use of the word Irony. So if the above isn't really irony, it's pretty ironic that he mis used the word himself.
Irony is telling someone to iron, and then they hit you with an iron and make you iron, and that's irony. How ironic.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2krXq8fw90[/media]
People tend to interchange both irony and coincidence. That's something that has always bothered me. Irony would be like seeing Spider-Man get caught in a web (metaphorically or literally speaking), while a coincidence is like someone being in the right place at the right time.
Ed Byrne slates Alanis Morrissette. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT1TVSTkAXg[/media] It's related. Token quote: [quote="Ed Byrne"]The only thing ironic about that song is that it was written by a person who doesn't know what irony is.[/quote]
A fireman's house burning down. Getting hit by an ambulance. Policeman getting arrested. A snow plough getting stuck in the snow. A few job examples
[QUOTE=PX1K;28176615]A fireman's house burning down. Getting hit by an ambulance. Policeman getting arrested. A snow plough getting stuck in the snow. A few job examples[/QUOTE] A fry cook being deep fried. A dog cleaner taking a bath.
A person allergic to pizza's working at Domino's Pizza.
Rain on your wedding day A free ride when you're already late good advice that you just didn't take and who would have thought it figured [editline]20th February 2011[/editline] god dammit
Irony cannot truly be definitively defined. Irony and coincidence are interchangeable in many senses as within one definition, both take place. the examples listed above Freakysoup are situational irony AND a coincidence. Edit: @Freakysoup: None of those situations are ironic. They are just unfortunate events. One could argue that one would expect your wedding day to not have rain, thereby causing irony, but just rain on your wedding day is not ironic. Also, Dramatic irony is the easiest and most simple form. When reading or watching something [book, show, play] dramatic irony is when the audience/ reader knows something that the characters of the story do not know. [editline]20th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=haloguy234;28176309]People tend to interchange both irony and coincidence. That's something that has always bothered me. Irony would be like seeing Spider-Man get caught in a web (metaphorically or literally speaking), while a coincidence is like someone being in the right place at the right time.[/QUOTE] Spiderman getting caught in a web is a coincidence though.
Irony is really just when something has a lot of iron in it. "This water is tinted brown, it must be irony!"
The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention - now that is irony.
I'd say magnets are pretty iron-y, eh? I don't know what all of you are describing, but irony is definitely something made of iron. Harharhar
[QUOTE=Demolitions2;28177209]Irony cannot truly be definitively defined. Irony and coincidence are interchangeable in many senses as within one definition, both take place. the examples listed above Freakysoup are situational irony AND a coincidence. Edit: @Freakysoup: None of those situations are ironic. They are just unfortunate events. One could argue that one would expect your wedding day to not have rain, thereby causing irony, but just rain on your wedding day is not ironic. Also, Dramatic irony is the easiest and most simple form. When reading or watching something [book, show, play] dramatic irony is when the audience/ reader knows something that the characters of the story do not know. [editline]20th February 2011[/editline] Spiderman getting caught in a web is a coincidence though.[/QUOTE] [b]co[/b][i]incidence[/i] As in multiple happenings at the same time, which could be related. Eg. 2 terrorist bombings at the same time could be the result of one strike, or pure coincidence. Spiderman getting caught in his own web is ironic.
The root of coincidence is coincide, which means tied together or somehow related.
[QUOTE=torero;28176609]Ed Byrne slates Alanis Morrissette. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT1TVSTkAXg[/media] It's related. Token quote:[/QUOTE] I find that funny because [quote=Wiki page for Alanis Morrissette's Ironic]For me the sweetest moment came in New York when a woman came up to me in a record store and said, 'So all those things in the "Ironic" aren't ironic.' And then she said, 'And that's the irony.' I said, 'Yup.'[/quote]
[QUOTE=haloguy234;28177496]The root of coincidence is coincide, which means tied together or somehow related.[/QUOTE] Spiderman [who shoots web] gets caught in a web [the very thing he shoots]. It's ironic, but it is also a coincidence that such a thing would happen.
I think it would be ironic if people were made of iron
[QUOTE=PX1K;28176615]A fireman's house burning down. Getting hit by an ambulance. Policeman getting arrested. A snow plough getting stuck in the snow. A few job examples[/QUOTE] This, also when people say: i'm being ironic, they usually mean "i'm being sarcastic"
[QUOTE=Demolitions2;28177563]Spiderman [who shoots web] gets caught in a web [the very thing he shoots]. It's ironic, but it is also a coincidence that such a thing would happen.[/QUOTE] Something being a coincidence is entirely situational. For example it would be a concidence if Spiderman was just swinging along and all of a sudden he hit a random web out of nowhere, the web being spun and spiderman swinging are separate events that collide at that very point. It would be ironic however, if he had spun that same web earlier then accidently swung into it, being trapped by the very web he uses to trap criminals.
Irony is when the opposite of what is expected to happen, but it has been misused so many times to just mean weird coincidence, that it basically does.
"This sentence wouldn't be worth a chuckle if it weren't for the irony of it"
[QUOTE=PX1K;28176615]A fireman's house burning down. Getting hit by an ambulance. Policeman getting arrested. A snow plough getting stuck in the snow. A few job examples[/QUOTE] A hooker moving to the Virgin Islands
im SO fucking happy right now
That's not ironic, that's just stating the truth.
The other day my friend told me I don't understand irony, which was ironic because we were standing by a bus stop at the time.
The cruelest joke played upon mankind.
Aqua man drowning
It's like rain on your wedding day. It's a free ride when your already there. It's that good advice, that you just can't take. Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?
Irony where you hear a high pitched noise in your ear.
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