• Afghan Insurgents Hang 8 Year Old Boy
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[QUOTE=Fox News]KABUL, Afghanistan – Insurgents in southern Afghanistan hanged an 8-year-old boy six days after they abducted him, the Afghan government said Sunday. The boy's captors had demanded that his father, a police officer, supply them with a police vehicle and he refused, said a statement from President Hamid Karzai's office. The militants hanged the boy Friday in Helmand province's Gereshk district. "President Karzai both strongly condemns this act and rejects it as a brutal and cowardly crime that is not acceptable in any religion or culture," the statement said. It referred to the killers as "terrorists," but did not say if they belonged to the Taliban or another of the insurgent movements fighting foreign forces and their Afghan allies. Kidnappings have become increasingly common in Afghanistan, both by criminal groups looking for ransoms and insurgents making a political statement. Most abductions are settled out of the public eye, with negotiations and cash payments. Separately, Afghan officials said NATO forces battling insurgents along an eastern highway accidentally killed three civilians who were caught in the crossfire. NATO said that local residents presented the bodies of three civilians killed. Spokesman Capt. Justin Brockhoff said it was unclear whose fire had killed them. The battle broke out after international troops struck a roadside bomb in Wardak province. The dead included a woman who was a provincial health official. Wardak government spokesman Shahidullah Shahid said Dr. Aqeela Hekmat and two of her family members were killed in their vehicle, and her husband was injured. Aqeela was the head of gynecology and maternal health for neighboring Ghazni province. Provincial police Chief Gen. Abdul Qayum Baqizai also confirmed three deaths and said it was clear that they were killed by NATO fire. Karzai's office said it was investigating the allegations. Read more: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/24/afghan-insurgents-hang-8-year-old-boy/#ixzz1TBgInI6g[/url] [/QUOTE] The fact that we're going after people like this over there definitely strengthens my resolve for this war...
Wow. Just wow.
I would have gave the vehicle, but damn, how can a human being hang a child for a piece of machinery? The current situation in the middle east is sick.
Monsters.
I'm thinking those guys are on a power high. I can't imagine a human being doing such a thing under normal circumstances.
What... That is just. I can't even begin to comprehend why any humane being would do this. An eight year old child has years and years of life ahead of him/her, at that age they can barely begin to comprehend how the world works. This is just....
What a bunch of knuckleheads
Seems as if the shit in Afghanistan will never be resolved.
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;31340785]What a bunch of knuckleheads[/QUOTE] A bit of an understatement. Yeah, yeah, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind", but can we forget Gandhi for a second and just shoot the guys that did that? Seriously.
[QUOTE=Canesfan;31340579]The fact that we're going after people like this over there definitely strengthens my resolve for this war...[/QUOTE] Let me preface this by saying these insurgents are the lowest of low shitheaps and in no way I condone their actions whatsoever. However, the war is a giant black hole for money and the little benefit gained by companies buying off the mineral reserves and the contracts for infrastructure is not worth the cost in lives and cash. Training the afghan military (which we are doing already) is the way to go as well as resolving the tribal conflicts which plague the current government. By giving them the means to fight the insurgents we don't have to go to such lengths (i.e: have our own troops there) to defeat a crippled insurgency. The anti-western sentiment is high in Afghanistan due to the actions westerns forces have taken and by fighting and causing destruction we are only stoking the fire for the insurgents ideologies. In my own opinion it is better to merely provide support to the Afghans and withdraw our troops (of course leaving the military instructors to train the afghan military)
There are people in america who do this sort of thing. I still think we should pull out of this war slowly(because blah blah their infrastructure is shit)
i'll try being outraged later when i'm not retarded
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;31341304]It's done elsewhere, so it's ok to happen everywhere. :downs:.[/QUOTE] Yes, that's exactly what he said. Where is the good reading rating when you need one. Bravo
[QUOTE=Keegs;31341320]Yes, that's exactly what he said. Where is the good reading rating when you need one. Bravo[/QUOTE] I seem to have gone braindead and replied to the wrong post.
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;31341347]I seem to have gone braindead and replied to the wrong post.[/QUOTE] Well if that was directed at me, I never said it was okay. I just think it's absurd to use this as justification to stay in afganistan.
[QUOTE=Canesfan;31340579]The fact that we're going after people like this over there definitely strengthens my resolve for this war...[/QUOTE] I find it ironic that your story involves the insurgents killing one innocent and our forces killing three innocents. So when they kill one and it strengthens your resolve, what does it do for their resolve when we kill three?
Allah wills it. [QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;31341506]I find it ironic that your story involves the insurgents killing one innocent and our forces killing three innocents. So when they kill one and it strengthens your resolve, what does it do for their resolve when we kill three?[/QUOTE] The difference is one is murder and the other is cross-fire.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;31341506]I find it ironic that your story involves the insurgents killing one innocent and our forces killing three innocents. So when they kill one and it strengthens your resolve, what does it do for their resolve when we kill three?[/QUOTE] I'm just going to be blunt. I think hanging an 8 year old is a little more... worse, than 3 adults being shot in crossfire. [editline]july 26[/editline] :ninja:
Such backwards people.
Oh my god, that's so tragic, I think that-- Whoops, looked like the US smart-bombed another school again. Don't for a second believe that we don't have innocent blood on our hands too. EDIT: You know what? This was a stupid comment. Sorry.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;31344611]Oh my god, that's so tragic, I think that-- Whoops, looked like the US smart-bombed another school again. Don't for a second believe that we don't have innocent blood on our hands too.[/QUOTE]Because collateral damage = murder.
Say what you want about them fighting us because we are meddling in their country, that child didn't do a damn thing to them. You lose all credit when you murder 8 year olds.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;31344635]Because collateral damage = murder.[/QUOTE] I don't think we have any right to act like we're so much better than these people. We didn't have to invade their country. The kid would be alive and well if the US had never invaded in the first place, or if we did things right and got the fuck out in the first few years. The country was (basically, sorta) at peace when we stuck our noses in, and now it's been at continuous war for a decade. We were the aggressors, we declared war on the Taliban, and the consequences of that war ultimately rest on us. Al-Qaeda was not the government of Afghanistan, and destroying the existing government and trying to set up a puppet was not the right way to do it. Therefore we are the ones ultimately responsible for what happens.
Facepunch this worked up over a child? I wonder what would happen if it was a kitten or a dog instead...
[QUOTE=TheGronk;31344790]Facepunch this worked up over a child? I wonder what would happen if it was a kitten or a dog instead...[/QUOTE] Pack your bags, we're going to Afghanistan.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;31344808]Pack your bags, we're going to Afghanistan.[/QUOTE] I'll find an anim - Oh, you already are one.
[QUOTE=TheGronk;31344816]I'll find an anim - Oh, you already are one.[/QUOTE] Wait what. [editline]26th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;31344788]I don't think we have any right to act like we're so much better than these people. We didn't have to invade their country. The kid would be alive and well if the US had never invaded in the first place, or if we did things right and got the fuck out in the first few years. The country was (basically, sorta) at peace when we stuck our noses in, and now it's been at continuous war for a decade. We were the aggressors, we declared war on the Taliban, and the consequences of that war ultimately rest on us. Al-Qaeda was not the government of Afghanistan, and destroying the existing government and trying to set up a puppet was not the right way to do it. Therefore we are the ones ultimately responsible for what happens.[/QUOTE] That's like saying that if somebody punches me in the stomach it's their fault when I go kill their friend's kid.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;31344611]Oh my god, that's so tragic, I think that-- Whoops, looked like the US smart-bombed another school again. Don't for a second believe that we don't have innocent blood on our hands too.[/QUOTE] You're being an apologist for people that killed a child because a low-level government official wouldn't give them a car, with your logic being that a group completely unrelated to this incident has also killed innocents in wartime collateral damage.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;31344788]I don't think we have any right to act like we're so much better than these people. We didn't have to invade their country. The kid would be alive and well if the US had never invaded in the first place, or if we did things right and got the fuck out in the first few years. The country was (basically, sorta) at peace when we stuck our noses in, and now it's been at continuous war for a decade. We were the aggressors, we declared war on the Taliban, and the consequences of that war ultimately rest on us. Al-Qaeda was not the government of Afghanistan, and destroying the existing government and trying to set up a puppet was not the right way to do it. Therefore we are the ones ultimately responsible for what happens.[/QUOTE]You heard it here first folks. We, the ordinary citizens of America who had nothing to do with the war have no right to act like we are so much better than a group of people who abducted and murdered an 8 year old boy. Oh god. Unlike you I actually looked at what I was typing and man is it retarded.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;31344882]You're being an apologist for people that killed a child because a low-level government official wouldn't give them a car, with your logic being that a group completely unrelated to this incident has also killed innocents in wartime collateral damage.[/QUOTE] Not apologizing for anything they do, merely pointing out that at this point it's pretty hypocritical to act like we're so much holier and better than them. The Taliban haven't spent the last decade subjecting a foreign country to hostile occupation.
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