Ive noticed all of a sudden tons of 600 Hz tvs. At first i thought it was manufacturers trying to gyp uninformed customer. Then i noticed just about all TVs had that on it. So if someone could explain what technological breakthrough happened and slipped by me it would be appreciated.
To be honest, 600 Hz isnt that impressive for a 1020X800 tv, Even though the refresh rate is high, the Resolution is somewhat-low.
Hell, CRT monitors were hitting 120 Hz way back when (but those fuckers were HUGE)
Marketing gimmick. It's not really 600Hz.
@E310 these are 1920x1080 @Odellus yeah but company cant misadvertise cause of this little thing called the law, so there has to be something that makes it look like its 600Hz
[QUOTE=Java Llama;18613358]@E310 these are 1920x1080 @Odellus yeah but company cant misadvertise cause of this little thing called the law, so there has to be something that makes it look like its 600Hz[/QUOTE]
It has 5 fields of resolution. Each field is running at 120Hz. They just multiply it, same thing with memory clocks on graphics cards.
I thought it had to do with refresh rate? Right?
[QUOTE=Panda X;18613404]I thought it had to do with refresh rate? Right?[/QUOTE]
That is the refresh rate.
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If you mean response time, no, it doesn't.
Well don't most cap out at 60f/s? And broadcast being recorded at 29.97?
[QUOTE=Panda X;18613467]Well don't most cap out at 60f/s? And broadcast being recorded at 29.97?[/QUOTE]
Exactly. It's just a marketing gimmick. The whole TV is. There's no point in getting any more than 60Hz in a television.
That's what I was thinking. Then you got all technical so I made sure I was right.
120hz TV's only are really useful for 3D stereoscopic.
I used to have a 32" 120hz CRT TV :smug:
It's 10 times as much TV as a 60hz competitor.
I think there is something going on (like applying a slight blur between the frames to give the appearance of smoother motion), but at the core it's still showing a (most likely) 30fps source.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;18614575]It's 10 times as much TV as a 60hz competitor.
I think there is something going on (like applying a slight blur between the frames to give the appearance of smoother motion), but at the core it's still showing a (most likely) 30fps source.[/QUOTE]
There's no blur or anything. It just supports up to 120Hz.
120hz makes everything look like a soap opera, the moving things onscreen dont blend in with the static background and it looks all unrealistic (. i.e depth perception of the gods, which we shouldnt have) I prefer my games/TV/everything else at about 45Hz for maximum immersion.
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;18615136]120hz makes everything look like a soap opera, the moving things onscreen dont blend in with the static background and it looks all unrealistic (. i.e depth perception of the gods, which we shouldnt have) I prefer my games/TV/everything else at about 45Hz for maximum immersion.[/QUOTE]
Except you missed the part where they don't. The screen's refresh rate syncs to the framerate of the program playing.
Why the heck would you need a 600Hz TV anyway?
Watching TV programs @ 30Hz?
We need 600Hz Monitors, and now I'm not talking about this "5 fields of resolution @ 120Hz" bullcrap, i want to play Garry's Mod in 600FPS
[QUOTE=paul simon;18616689]i want to play Garry's Mod in 600FPS[/QUOTE]
why
[QUOTE=Steve Vai;18616819]why[/QUOTE]
Why not? :p
I want to see how fluid it'll look, it'd be kinda interesting
[QUOTE=Steve Vai;18616819]why[/QUOTE]
Because he can!
[QUOTE=paul simon;18616849]Why not? :p
I want to see how fluid it'll look, it'd be kinda interesting[/QUOTE]
You wouldn't see a difference from 60Hz and 600 Hz
[QUOTE=Dj-J3;18616871]You wouldn't see a difference from 60Hz and 600 Hz[/QUOTE]
I reckon you wouldn't see a difference between 30 and 60 either. Above 30 it's all just about reaction time and not fluidness anyway.
[QUOTE=Dj-J3;18616871]You wouldn't see a difference from 60Hz and 600 Hz[/QUOTE]
You wouldn't be able to sense a higher framerate, but the movement would look smoother because of the lack of motion blur.
[QUOTE=Dj-J3;18616871]You wouldn't see a difference from 60Hz and 600 Hz[/QUOTE]
Rate this man disagree and you are officially retarded.
There is absolutely no point in running anything above 60Hz.
The eye won't notice anything above 72 f/s.
The average Joe won't notice anything above 40 f/s.
[QUOTE=Steve Vai;18617642]Rate this man disagree and you are officially retarded.
There is absolutely no point in running anything above 60Hz.[/QUOTE]
"There is absolutely no point in running anything above 60Hz." - true, but only on a 60hz monitor.Higher framerates will always look smoother if your monitor can actually display all those frames. I'm not saying there's a point to 600hz tvs, because most of the content will be actually displayed at less than 30fps. There's no advantage to refreshing the same picture 10 or 20 times, however, if you display a different frame every time, it will look smoother.
Oh, and i was talking about playing gmod @ 600fps, it lacks motion blur, therefore it would look smoother. Everything that's filmed with a camera already has motion blur, so there wouldn't be much difference in watching content filmed @ 30 fps vs something that was filmed @ 600fps.
This is all just theory, you can't do 600fps in practice because no video connector supports framerates this high.
at 600fps you wouldn't be able to see the choppy movement of a fast animation. Take the crowbar swing. Even at 60 it moves halfway across the screen in a single frame. This is easily visible. Instead you would see the natural motion blur of your eyes.
Okay guys, what are you guys talking about? "There is no visible difference between 60hz and 120hz" That is total garbage, how could not see the difference? Go to your local best buy, Wal-Mart or other TV packed store and watch side-by-side a Blu-ray 1080p movie on a 60hz and 120hz TV, if you can't see the difference you need to remove your biases, place them on the floor next to you and repeat the viewing process.
I don't always like the 120hz viewing experience since it removes the cinematic motion blur and can make a film look amateur and unfinished. When viewing sports though it's fantastic, as well as animated films.
I own a 60hz LCD TV but I am not denying how cool 120hz can look. It seems that's the reason for all the 120hz hate, "I bought a 60hz LCD TV a year ago and now its outdated so I'm going to dislike and attempt to dispute 120hz TV's since they obviously can be no better than the TV I/my parents own." I would like a 120hz TV, but most likely will buy a 60hz purely on a cost basis.
What i'm interested in is what these 120+hz tvs actually do to achieve so high framerates. Do they actually refresh 600 times in a second? Do they interpolate between adjacent frames to make extra frames?
[QUOTE=paul simon;18616689]Garry's Mod in 600FPS[/QUOTE]
Source engine only supports 300fps by default
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