• Death sentence for Illegal Drug Trafficking - Is it fair or too harsh?
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Nations like Singapore and Malaysia actually sentence anyone who brings in over 400g of illegal drugs into the country to DEATH. Some of you may say it's a a great deterrence and I see it actually work. Singapore so far have the lowest illegal drug abuse in South East Asia but some of you may say, despite it being a good deterrence, hanging a drug trafficker/smuggler to death is overkill. A long prison sentence of maximum 20 years is a better option. You might find the death penalty for drug trafficking has a huge flaw. For example, what if the drug smuggler was forced to do it. What if he or she accidentally brought in the drugs without knowing it and could not prove his/her innocence? Another flaw, is what if a famous person like the president of united states or a prime minister from UK accidentally brought the drugs in, would they be executed too or be let off but this would cause anger and be seen as a double standard. From my opinion, it is too harsh but some of my friends think it's only fair to kill the drug trafficker if they really intent to bring in the drugs into the country.
Executing people to make an example of them is in no way fair, justice can't be used simply as a means to an end. The U.S president and British Prime-minister are unlikely to 'accidentally' smuggle in drugs, they have diplomatic immunity anyway.
it's fucked up, but it works
That is a very violent punishment for a non-violent crime.
It shouldn't even be illegal to traffick drugs. I really don't understand why every government in the world is so against drugs (apart from alcohol which has never harmed anyone).
[QUOTE=sp00ks;36102327]It shouldn't even be illegal to traffick drugs. I really don't understand why every government in the world is so against drugs (apart from alcohol which has never harmed anyone).[/QUOTE] Exactly this. If someone wants to be stupid and snort Cocaine until they die, let them.
A death sentence is never fair and shouldn't be used in the first place.
Too harsh.... I could understand lifetime in prison but death? It's a good way to scare people so they think twice about doing it, but other than that it's seems pretty unfair.
[QUOTE=SoSicklyAwesome;36102353]Exactly this. If someone wants to be stupid and snort Cocaine until they die, let them.[/QUOTE] how about no because that's irresponsible to society and to people sometimes you DO have to protect people from themselves
Because a guy alone in his house OD's on coke will totally effect society. It's my body, I should be able to choose what I put in it, not the government. And the death penalty is too harsh for any crime.
[QUOTE=SoSicklyAwesome;36102353]Exactly this. If someone wants to be stupid and snort Cocaine until they die, let them.[/QUOTE] I was gonna say he was wrong, but then you said that and I found it to be a not so bad idea, even if a bit extreme :v: I actually had no idea that drug trafficking could get you a death sentence. Thats an overkill of all sorts (nevermind the pun) Its beyond my mind how some people get away with hideous crimes directly towards someone, going so far as to tearing their victims apart, physically or mentaly which sounds much much worse, with just a rather light sentence, yet drug trafficking gets you a death sentence. That never made no fucking sense whatsoever. Another example, how someone who killed someone could admit that he did it and enjoyed it, making the most gruesome thing ever heard of and get 5 years or something, and some guy launders money, not affecting anyone but a bunch of corporation fat cats, and gets life. How fucking backwards is that?
I'm against having any drug illegal, so I'm absolutely against the death penalty for drug trafficking. [editline]27th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Kalibos;36102996]how about no because that's irresponsible to society and to people sometimes you DO have to protect people from themselves[/QUOTE] Making drugs illegal is irresponsible. Instead of spending ridiculous sums of money locking these people up, why not spend money educating and treating them? Nobody wants to be a drug addict. Locking up non-violent drug offenders is cruel.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;36103135]I'm against having any drug illegal, so I'm absolutely against the death penalty for drug trafficking. [editline]27th May 2012[/editline] Making drugs illegal is irresponsible. Instead of spending ridiculous sums of money locking these people up, why not spend money educating and treating them? Nobody wants to be a drug addict. Locking up non-violent drug offenders is cruel.[/QUOTE] Agree'd. And why is weed not legal yet? Tobacco basically murders you and your lungs and its legal. Alchohol fucks up your liver and kidneys and if you have the responsability of a 4 year old and drink while driving can lead to some dire consequences. Put both together, and you might be unlucky enough to get oral cancer (I shit you not), yet WEED IS BAD BECAUSE OF......
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;36103135]I'm against having any drug illegal, so I'm absolutely against the death penalty for drug trafficking. [editline]27th May 2012[/editline] Making drugs illegal is irresponsible. Instead of spending ridiculous sums of money locking these people up, why not spend money educating and treating them? Nobody wants to be a drug addict. Locking up non-violent drug offenders is cruel.[/QUOTE] I agree with your entire post but it doesn't invalidate what I said
Death should never be a penalty in my book. Drug trafficking should be dealt with with fines and prison sentences. Drug abuse should be decriminalized, though. Instead of prison sentences, there should be optional rehabilitation programs for hard drugs. Soft drugs should just be legalized and regulated.
The killing of another human being is only justified to save innocent lives, i.e. a crazed gunman on a shooting spree for example. On the topic of drugs, I think they should be legal, if people want to fuck themselves over with them, that is their problem. We should be living in a free country. Drugs, when legal, only harm the people that take them. Making them illegal just leads to crime
And illegal drugs are more expensive, so yeah it's logical that it causes more crime...
[QUOTE=SoSicklyAwesome;36102353]Exactly this. If someone wants to be stupid and snort Cocaine until they die, let them.[/QUOTE] But the problem is that everybody today is snorting cocaine, and they can't let everyone just die.
[QUOTE=Smartuy;36138742]But the problem is that everybody today is snorting cocaine, and they can't let everyone just die.[/QUOTE] Everyone is snorting cocaine?
I don't see why any drugs should be illegal, so my stance is obvious.
[QUOTE=Werem00se;36101817]That is a very violent punishment for a non-violent crime.[/QUOTE] it's a non-violent crime that rather undeniably paves the way for second-hand (and third-hand, depending on the substance) violent crime though if durgs weren't illegal in the first place that wouldn't be a problem!!!! but everyone in this thread has already said that
Death penalty for drug dealing is very wrong indeed; they essentially get killed for ideological reasons in that case, which is far worse than indiscriminate killing or being killed because of of being a killer. The folks who endorse the war on drugs should consider checking into a mental hospital if they think that drugs should be illegal. If someone wants to take drugs, even if they suffer the side effects, just bloody let them; it's their choice and they don't need a nanny state dictating what they can and can't do. Honestly, the sooner the current generation of old conservative farts keel over and melt into a puddle of putrid meaty mulch, the better.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;36102327]It shouldn't even be illegal to traffick drugs. I really don't understand why every government in the world is so against drugs (apart from alcohol which has never harmed anyone).[/QUOTE] because if someone gets addicted to, say heroin, they might run out of money but their need for a fix doesn't go away, so they could end up doing crimes for money that they never would have committed without being introduced to that drug
I kind of support the death penalty, but a death sentence for anything other than murder to me is way too harsh. Also I'm on a fence on the drugs issue. Not many people here probably had a drug crazed family member, they severely fuck up an entire family. Shit like cocaine and heroin should be illegal, people sometimes need to be protected from themselves, and it's not fair on the family either.
It should be stopped. But it should be replaced with a life-time sentence instead, with parole if needed. Drugs are dumb and those who traffic them are just as bad. But not deserving of a death sentence.
[QUOTE=Kalibos;36101768]it's fucked up, but it works[/QUOTE] It really doesn't. Look at what goes on in the middle east. Having western civilisation perform the tasks of a pikey is a crime of humanity.
[QUOTE=Kalibos;36101768]it's fucked up, but it works[/QUOTE] See that's the thing, it doesn't. [url]http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty[/url]
I don't give a shit that the penalty is "too harsh" seeing as I don't do drugs as it is letalone be stupid enough to try and smuggle them into countries like that.
I like how people see the death penalty as "a little bit too harsh". People need to reassess what they think life and death actually is.
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];36167662']I don't give a shit that the penalty is "too harsh" seeing as I don't do drugs as it is letalone be stupid enough to try and smuggle them into countries like that.[/QUOTE] "It doesn't effect me therefore I don't give a fuck." Fixed that for you buddy.
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