This actually brings up a question I've had for a while; I know magnets and hard drives don't really mix well, but would a decent sized/strength magnet be sufficient for genuinely wiping a hard drive - either in a phone or a computer?
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And would it actually be usable after that, assuming you reinstalled the OS.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;45356926]This actually brings up a question I've had for a while; I know magnets and hard drives don't really mix well, but would a decent sized/strength magnet be sufficient for genuinely wiping a hard drive - either in a phone or a computer?
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And would it actually be usable after that, assuming you reinstalled the OS.[/QUOTE]
That only works on mechanical hard drives, so doing it to a phone would be pointless.
How hard it is to make the phone just write 0s over its entire storage ? Where do they find their programmers and engineers ?
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;45356926]This actually brings up a question I've had for a while; I know magnets and hard drives don't really mix well, but would a decent sized/strength magnet be sufficient for genuinely wiping a hard drive - either in a phone or a computer?
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And would it actually be usable after that, assuming you reinstalled the OS.[/QUOTE]
Phones don't have hard drives, they have solid state disks. You can't erase these with a magnet. Also most modern computers also have SSDs.
Or you could just...not take naked pictures of yourself.
[QUOTE=cartman300;45356943]Phones don't have hard drives, they have solid state disks. You can't erase these with a magnet. Also most modern computers also have SSDs.[/QUOTE]
I'd suggest either tossig a huge magnet directy at the SSD or vice versa. If the magnetism won't work, hopefully the force will.
Yes, beeb, we know about this already. Avast's report is purely sensationalism over something we've known for years but nobody is willing to fix, thus making everyone paranoid due to sensationalist news articles.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;45356941]How hard it is to make the phone just write 0s over its entire storage ? Where do they find their programmers and engineers ?[/QUOTE]
That'll just wear out the solid state drive.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;45356941]How hard it is to make the phone just write 0s over its entire storage ? Where do they find their programmers and engineers ?[/QUOTE]
i do that every time i have to wipe a phone. the problem is that it takes a relatively absurd amount of time (around 2 hours on the last phone i did) -- and people aren't willing to wait more than 2 minutes for a factory reset..
[QUOTE=AntonioR;45356941]How hard it is to make the phone just write 0s over its entire storage ? Where do they find their programmers and engineers ?[/QUOTE]
A) It's slower to do that than to just mark everything as writable.
B) Since it's an SSD, it wears the disk out faster.
C) It doesn't always help. Dunno about an SSD, but I know you can retrieve data from regular harddrives even if it has been overwritten multiple times.
The best way, mentioned a few times in other threads about this, is to enable encryption and reboot the phone before wiping it.
[QUOTE=uber.;45356918]Remove the head or destroy the brain.[/QUOTE]
I shoot my old phones.
00 buckshot == best reset
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[QUOTE=Lord Fear;45357352]C) It doesn't always help. Dunno about an SSD, but I know you can retrieve data from regular harddrives even if it has been overwritten multiple times.
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You can't recover overwritten data from solid state memory, provided you ensure the entire device has been written over (some ssds keep multiple copies of the same data).
[QUOTE=Wiggles;45356940]That only works on mechanical hard drives, so doing it to a phone would be pointless.[/QUOTE]
With a strong enough magnet you can physically crush the phone :P
[QUOTE=Falcqn;45358954]You can't recover overwritten data from solid state memory, provided you ensure the entire device has been written over (some ssds keep multiple copies of the same data).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I figured as much considering how vastly different they work.
I think the only way to ensure your naked selfies are thrown to the depths are to factory reset, fill the phone up again with enormous pictures of he-man or whatever, factory reset again, rinse and repeat. If you overwrite the data it won't be accessible again
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;45356926]This actually brings up a question I've had for a while; I know magnets and hard drives don't really mix well, but would a decent sized/strength magnet be sufficient for genuinely wiping a hard drive - either in a phone or a computer?
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And would it actually be usable after that, assuming you reinstalled the OS.[/QUOTE]
Magnets and harddrives mix pretty well. There are two big-ass magnets in your hard drive to make the reading head move.
Time to buy some used android phones :wink:
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;45366191]Magnets and harddrives mix pretty well. There are two big-ass magnets in your hard drive to make the reading head move.[/QUOTE]
Those magnets are the shit
throwing the phone down a volcano should work
provided no one is inside the volcano to catch it
[QUOTE=Cabbage;45366190]I think the only way to ensure your naked selfies are thrown to the depths are to factory reset, fill the phone up again with enormous pictures of he-man or whatever, factory reset again, rinse and repeat. If you overwrite the data it won't be accessible again[/QUOTE]
Hm, if you put like a 30GB picture of some random shit on your phone after resetting it, would that rewrite everything?
this is pretty typical, i know there are loads of magazines that use a combination of old phones and and thin screens for video ads in magazines. It's piss easy to take the ad apart and legitimately have a nearly functioning phone that, despite being 'factory reset' will still have all sorts of data on it.
Time to start buying up old phones!
[QUOTE=Viva;45367682]this is pretty typical, i know there are loads of magazines that use a combination of old phones and and thin screens for video ads in magazines. It's piss easy to take the ad apart and legitimately have a nearly functioning phone that, despite being 'factory reset' will still have all sorts of data on it.[/QUOTE]
Wait. Video ads [I]in[/I] magazines? As in literally INSIDE the magazines you can have spammed to your house?
Edit: No really guys, do these actually exist in the way I interpreted it? I haven't looked in a magazine in around 5 years. It would blow my mind.
Remind me to take lots of pictures of my taint when I trade in my phone next year
[QUOTE=Oizen;45356957]Or you could just...not take naked pictures of yourself.[/QUOTE]
Or you could just... expect factory resets to completely wipe the user partition considering these things are filled with valuable information all the time.
Walkin in here dick in hand
Got my self all hyped up
But all I got was a read that was really bland
[QUOTE=Levelog;45371673]Wait. Video ads [I]in[/I] magazines? As in literally INSIDE the magazines you can have spammed to your house?
Edit: No really guys, do these actually exist in the way I interpreted it? I haven't looked in a magazine in around 5 years. It would blow my mind.[/QUOTE]
They've been around for a few years.
[url]http://www.geek.com/mobile/fully-functional-android-phone-embedded-in-entertainment-weekly-1520099/[/url]
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