Hello everyone. I hope to host game servers of Arma 2, Arma 3, Source Engine games, Mount and Blade, and some less resource hungry games.
I also intend to have this as a file server and email host.
Requirements:
Quiet liquid cooling
X2 1TB HDDs in a recomended RAID config
Micro ATX (This [URL="http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00D6GINF4?cache=43f209442e6a9129dde7eb62829e5e82&qid=1402001167&sr=8-13#ref=mp_s_a_1_13"]http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00D6GINF4?cache=43f209442e6a9129dde7eb62829e5e82&qid=1402001167&sr=8-13#ref=mp_s_a_1_13[/URL])
Powerful Intel Xeon
It will be running CentOS
Budget: $2500 America
Just so you know, that case can also fit ATX and eATX
Oh, well I just like the cube case itself. So, just make it regular ATX then
That case is actually huge. Idk why they don't make mini itx size cases that can fit micro atx boards.
[QUOTE=Lilyo;45010858]That case is actually huge. Idk why they don't make mini itx size cases that can fit micro atx boards.[/QUOTE]
Space doesn't matter, I like the aesthetics.
Also, Lilyo, I consider you Levelog Facepunch's best PC Builders.
Help?
i dont know anything really about servers. Is it a dedicated server or are you using it for anything else? 2500 seems way too much for just a server host.
File server and email host. It will be running 64 player servers.
So here we go. Part by part explanation incoming.
Processor: No explanation needed really. An obvious choice would be a server processor, because it's a server. But you don't need to drop the dosh on an e5 for something like this.
Cooler: The 105 is the most efficient of the Corsair series, and that paired with the SP120 Quiet's will allow for very low fan speeds and near silent operation.
Motherboard: It's a motherboard. A quality one.
RAM: Honestly you don't even need 8GB for ARMA and such. It is really not a memory hog whatsoever, but with budget as it is, and the use of email database hosting possibly, I'd go with it.
HDD: Alright, so I know someone will say just get a pair of barracuda's, but I picked these specific drives for a reason. One, the Constellation series is the equivalent of WD's Red drives. They are meant for server and NAS use. 24/7 operation is what they're built for, and the 128mb cache will be nice. Two, as you can see they are different prices. This is because you NEVER want to get two drives of the same batch. The likelihood of them failing at the same time is huge, and then your RAID config will be a useless heap of dead metal. One is from the xx33 batch, and one from the xx55 batch.
GPU: You literally just need something to render the desktop, and the E3-1240 does not have integrated graphics.
PSU: This will obviously be enough to power your rig. Gold is nice because of the 24/7 operation. It is also a Seasonic made PSU, so you know you're getting quality.
Case: You chose it. Good choice.
RAID Card: Software RAID blows big fat donkey dick. Don't do it for a server environment. This card is on the less expensive side, and has great reviews. Some of which by people saying they are running CentOS without a problem, so that's good.
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[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31240v3]Intel Xeon E3-1240 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($274.99 @ Amazon)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060016ww]Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler[/url] ($114.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah97d3h]Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($99.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c11d16gis]G.Skill AEGIS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($129.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000nm0033]Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($89.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000nm0053]Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($114.97 @ Mwave)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-01gp32615kr]EVGA GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card[/url] ($39.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-capstone450m]Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050006ww]Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans[/url] ($24.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Other:[/b] Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 ($129.99)
[b]Other:[/b] HighPoint Rocket 640L RAID Card ($69.98)
[b]Total:[/b] $1159.86
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Wait, are you planning on running all said server at the same time? As in a 64 player ARMA II server alongside a 64 player ARMA III server alongside a 64 player Source server alongside email hosting?
Thank you Levelog. I will be running only 1 server at a time unless I switch it out. Filesharing will always be running.
What RAID mode do I do? What's the one that mirrors memory and has performance?
It depends what you're after.
RAID 0: Striping- It literally stripes the data across both drives. One bit goes on the first, next on the second. This greatly improves speed for sequential read and write rates. Cons are though if one dies, you're fucked since you now have half a hard drive and half of all your data is on a failed drive.
RAID 1: Mirror- Exactly how it sounds. Makes a perfect copy of the other drive. If one dies, all you have to do is pop in a new one and it will rebuild the array very quickly. No speed benefits though.
RAID 5: Striping with parity: Basically you get 66% of your total space. It stripes the data on two drives, and then has what's called a parity bit on the third. The parity bit changes drives each time. This method however requires 3 drives minimum, and has a minor speed benefit. With 3-4 drives you can have 1 drive fail and still rebuild fine, 5 drives you can have 2 fail, keeps going up.
Most "proper" servers actually have what's called RAID 10, which is actually RAID 1+0. It has two drives striped to increase performance, and 2 more mirror striped drives.
[editline]5th June 2014[/editline]
Apparently I only know how to talk in past tense. Fixed that.
I'm interested in RAID 10. This server will be holding many server mods and maps. I want speed for that. Is it worth it or should I just do RAID 1?
I'm just wondering. Would it be beneficial using a 1tb ssd for a server? Also why not get a E3-1245 and just use the igpu? Will the H105 be worth it over the H100i for a locked cpu?
Would this be a dumb setup? Or just not worth the cost I guess?
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[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31245v3]Intel Xeon E3-1245 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($283.95 @ Amazon)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i]Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler[/url] ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah97d3h]Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($99.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c11d16gis]G.Skill AEGIS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($129.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te1t0bw]Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($449.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te1t0bw]Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($449.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-capstone450m]Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Other:[/b] Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 ($129.99)
[b]Other:[/b] HighPoint Rocket 640L RAID Card ($70.00)
[b]Total:[/b] $1773.88
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[QUOTE=Original User;45011696]I'm interested in RAID 10. This server will be holding many server mods and maps. I want speed for that. Is it worth it or should I just do RAID 1?[/QUOTE]
You could always go RAID 1 for now, and if you decide you really want the speed boost, get 2 more for 10. I'd have to find a new card though.
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[QUOTE=Lilyo;45011720]I'm just wondering. Would it be beneficial using a 1tb ssd for a server?[/QUOTE]
SSD's for servers are the single most beneficial things SSD's could do for the world of computers. (And this is coming from someone in love with their 7 second boot time)
Thank you for educating me Levelog. I'll be back in a while when I build a MAME arcade cabinet and a racing cabinet PC.
I wish I had your budget :( I can't even seem to finish my current build.
What's left in your build?
Not a whole lot honestly. It does what I need it to, but what kind of loser is satisfied with that? Ideally I'd get 16GB of higher clocked RAM for VM's, gunning for some new headphones, getting a teensy to make my keyboard work, and a lot of smaller cables and such as a USB hub and external bluray player. Unrealistically though I'd also like a second 680, a radiator for it, and another 250-500GB SSD to drop 3.5 inch drives altogether. (Well move my 1tb WD blue to an external enclosure to dedicate to VM's)
That sounds pretty cool. Good luck with that man, I'm gonna close the thread.
Bye
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