Hey, I've never used liquid coolers but I am considering of getting into it soon, however - seeing lots of peoples setups online, all those fans, wires, tubes make it look more complicated than my cars cooling system , so I have few questions:
1) How does it work? (in simple explanation?) is it just literally a component with water in it attached to CPU or GPU?
2) Are liquid coolers same for GPU's and CPU's?
3) What can be cooled using liquid coolers? only CPU and GPU? Can one liquid cooler cool GPU and CPU at same time?
4) I've seen many photos of glowing tubes and stuff, what are those called? It looks like some toxic glowy slime in tubes that illuminates whole PC.
5) When buying liquid cooler, what do you need to look at specifically?
6) Whats' the chance of some pipe leaking and fucking up motherboard or other components?
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;47096312]Hey, I've never used liquid coolers but I am considering of getting into it soon, however - seeing lots of peoples setups online, all those fans, wires, tubes make it look more complicated than my cars cooling system , so I have few questions:
1) How does it work? (in simple explanation?) is it just literally a component with water in it attached to CPU or GPU?
2) Are liquid coolers same for GPU's and CPU's?
3) What can be cooled using liquid coolers? only CPU and GPU? Can one liquid cooler cool GPU and CPU at same time?
4) I've seen many photos of glowing tubes and stuff, what are those called? It looks like some toxic glowy slime in tubes that illuminates whole PC.
5) When buying liquid cooler, what do you need to look at specifically?
6) Whats' the chance of some pipe leaking and fucking up motherboard or other components?[/QUOTE]
1. Just like a car radiator. Block runs the water through it to and from the radiator to cool it.
2. Yes, there are some specifically designed for GPU/CPU use. There are however adapters to use CPU water coolers on GPUs
3. CPU, GPU, RAM, Hard drives, if you can get creative you can do it.
4. That's a custom liquid mix, might wanna google that.
5. Brand, Size, Price and what part I'm going to be using it on and whether to use a closed loop or custom setup.
6. If done correctly, very slim.
Liquid coolers consist of a reservoir & pump & tubes. The pump pumps the liquid towards a cooling unit (perhaps even fans), which then runs from the cooler towards the unit which needs to be cooled. From there the line cycles back towards the reservoir.
Although you could technically have separate liquid cooling systems, larger ones may support adding more tubes to other things. Mine can only cool my cpu.
Fundamentally most liquid coolers are the same, but the physical bit which attaches to the processor to cool it may be of different sizes depending on if it's for a cpu or a gpu, so I don't think any single one is interchangeable.
The colored ones probably run a colored liquid, and the pump probably has lights within it. Don't know of any of those personally.
I looked for one that would fit in my case, since I didn't want to keep my case open or have a separate thing dangling outside of mine. In my case, it happens to replace the rear fans right behind the cpu.
I don't know of the chance of failure, however I believe liquid coolers use a non-electrically conductive fluid. I could be horribly wrong, however.
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;47096312]Hey, I've never used liquid coolers but I am considering of getting into it soon, however - seeing lots of peoples setups online, all those fans, wires, tubes make it look more complicated than my cars cooling system , so I have few questions:
1) How does it work? (in simple explanation?) is it just literally a component with water in it attached to CPU or GPU?
2) Are liquid coolers same for GPU's and CPU's?
3) What can be cooled using liquid coolers? only CPU and GPU? Can one liquid cooler cool GPU and CPU at same time?
4) I've seen many photos of glowing tubes and stuff, what are those called? It looks like some toxic glowy slime in tubes that illuminates whole PC.
5) When buying liquid cooler, what do you need to look at specifically?
6) Whats' the chance of some pipe leaking and fucking up motherboard or other components?[/QUOTE]
It looks a lot less complicated once you actually get the parts. All that coolant shit is stupid, plain old distilled water is the best. When buying one, you need to look at performance of the radiators. CPU blocks are all within a slim margin of each other, and GPU blocks are close with die performance, but VRM cooling is where there's a difference. As for leaking, you've got AIO coolers that are cheaper and come assembled, but don't generally perform as well. But if you're doing a custom loop it isn't much of a concern as long as you do it right. Generally you do a 24 hour leak test with just the loop powered to test it, it allows you to iron out any leaks, I had 2 leaks for my testing and I could easily fix them, after it cycled leak free for 24 hours I plugged the power into everything else and I've been fine since.
-snip- got triple ninja'd in 8 minutes.
Don't forget the algae killer.
You don't want cpu sea monkeys.
Yeah the reason I got confused is because I looked at many websites like these:
[url]http://koolance.com/products[/url]
And on some websites you pick CPU make, model etc.. and it has specific brackets for it and there is thousands of various options.
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;47096738]Yeah the reason I got confused is because I looked at many websites like these:
[url]http://koolance.com/products[/url]
And on some websites you pick CPU make, model etc.. and it has specific brackets for it and there is thousands of various options.[/QUOTE]
Most CPU blocks will come with every modern processor bracket. EK generally has the best CPU blocks, followed by XSPC.
Why do you want water cooling anyway? Just because it looks cool or do you want to over lock it to the moon?
[QUOTE=taipan;47098706]Why do you want water cooling anyway? Just because it looks cool or do you want to over lock it to the moon?[/QUOTE]
Reduce noise and overclock cpu a bit.
Keep in mind water cooling can get VERY expensive. Even a simple Cpu only custom loop with decent components costs in excess of £150. So it depends on your budget.
Yeah I blew $300 on my initial loop, and am about to spend $150 more minimum.
What about those liquid coolers by cooler master or corsair in amazon that cost 90 euro?
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;47100262]What about those liquid coolers by cooler master or corsair in amazon that cost 90 euro?[/QUOTE]
Those work pretty good, but are not as good as a custom loop. If you're not willing to spend more than the price of a high end video card, go for those. If your case supports it, the Corsair H100i is supposedly very good. But I've only ever seen them for processors and not video cards.
[QUOTE=zombini;47100308]But I've only ever seen them for processors and not video cards.[/QUOTE]
Corsair and NZXT have kits for mounting them to most GPUs now.
Yeah those AIO loops are great if you don't want to spend a lot of money, but I just love building and messing with my loop, so much fun. But there's probably something wrong with me.
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;47098802]Reduce noise and overclock cpu a bit.[/QUOTE]
A 30$ air cooler will do that, hell a good air cooler is probably more silent that watercooling. And will allow you to OC a fair amount.
Water cooling is only interesting if you want to spend days overclocking your CPU and GPU to the max. Or if you like the look.
[QUOTE=taipan;47105321]A 30$ air cooler will do that, hell a good air cooler is probably more silent that watercooling. And will allow you to OC a fair amount.
Water cooling is only interesting if you want to spend days overclocking your CPU and GPU to the max. Or if you like the look.[/QUOTE]
Oh, any good cooler you can suggest in that case? AM3+ Socket.
Cooler master Hyper 212 EVO.
or
Scythe Mugen 4
[QUOTE=taipan;47105321]A 30$ air cooler will do that, hell a good air cooler is probably more silent that watercooling. And will allow you to OC a fair amount.
Water cooling is only interesting if you want to spend days overclocking your CPU and GPU to the max. Or if you like the look.[/QUOTE]
A properly done loop can be decently quieter than any air solution.
[QUOTE=Levelog;47105980]A properly done loop can be decently quieter than any air solution.[/QUOTE]
How? You still need fans, and a pump?
[QUOTE=taipan;47107043]How? You still need fans, and a pump?[/QUOTE]
Pumps can be Damn quiet. As for fans, using push/pull low rpm fans on a rad with low fpi is extremely quiet. Some 500rpm fans will still get the job done and be near silent.
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;47098802]Reduce noise and overclock cpu a bit.[/QUOTE]
You're better off going with a air cooler in your situation. Custom water cooling can be expensive and requires a lot of work to build and maintain over time. You also have a serious risk of parts getting damaged if something does go wrong (like an unexpected tube leak). For the cost and effort alone I personally wouldn't advise it unless you have a really niche need for it.
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;47105344]Oh, any good cooler you can suggest in that case? AM3+ Socket.[/QUOTE]
Cryorig H7, if it's unavailable then a Hyper 212 EVO. If you want to go fancy with overclocking then a Cryorig R1 or Phanteks PH-TC14PE.
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