• Nvidia to ATI - Am I right?
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Hey (again) The time has come again for me to upgrade my graphics. I have recently upgraded my motherboard, cpu and ram so now I want to swap my graphics card for something a little heavier whilst it still has second hand value. My Specs: CPU : AMD Phenom II 955BE MB: MSI 790FX GD70 RAM : Corsair XMS3 4GB 1333 PSU : Coolermaster RealPower M620 and finaly GFX : XFX GTX 260 (216) Obviously my new mobo and cpu combo makes a pretty solid AMD set up and gives me the space for up to 4 ATI cards at 16X. Here's my options... A : Swap GTX 260 for a HD 5850 (giving me the opportunity to go crossfire in the future) B : Swap motherboard for AM3 SLI and get the new GTX 460 (giving me the opportunity to go SLI in the future) [B][B] UPDATE [/B][/B]Well I think I'm going to stick with nividia for now, I just know them better and I don't want to lose my Phys-X. So it'll probably be the 1GB EVGA GTX 460, seems a high hitter and low price. Was thinking of swapping my motherboard out for the Asus M4N98TD EVO. Its not a very well known board but it has everything I want, supports DDR3 1333 ram nicely with no OC, a 140W CPU, takes 2 16X nvidia cards in SLI. GPU : [URL="http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-EVGA-GTX-460-SC-3800MHz-GDDR5-GPU-763MHz-ShaderClock-1526MHz-336-Cores-2x-DL-DVI-I-MiniHDMI"]http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-E...DVI-I-MiniHDMI[/URL] + Mobo: [URL="http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-M4N98TD-EVO-NF-980a-SLI-S-AM3-PCI-E-20-%28x16%29-DDR3-1066-1333-2000%28OC%29-SATA-3Gb-s-RAID-ATX"]http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...3Gb-s-RAID-ATX[/URL] This seems good yeah?? Until I change my mind of course ¬_¬
5850, XFX, ASUS. There's no point in going GTX 260 SLI and buying a new motherboard because you'll end up with less performance and the problems that come with multiple GPUs. The Black edition is just a factory overclocked card, if you plan on trying to achieve fairly high overclocks (1GHz core), you could buy it as those cards are binned higher.
[QUOTE=Odellus;23525140]5850, XFX, ASUS. There's no point in going GTX 260 SLI and buying a new motherboard because you'll end up with less performance and the problems that come with multiple GPUs. The Black edition is just a factory overclocked card, if you plan on trying to achieve fairly high overclocks (1GHz core), you could buy it as those cards are binned higher.[/QUOTE] True. Cheers for the 5850 recommendations I'm new to this ATI stuff, but what about the GTX 460? Is that worth swapping my motherboard for? [URL="http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-M4N98TD-EVO-NF-980a-SLI-S-AM3-PCI-E-20-%28x16%29-DDR3-1066-1333-2000%28OC%29-SATA-3Gb-s-RAID-ATX"]http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-M4N98TD-EVO-NF-980a-SLI-S-AM3-PCI-E-20-%28x16%29-DDR3-1066-1333-2000%28OC%29-SATA-3Gb-s-RAID-ATX[/URL]
I second the 5850. DX11 y'all
[QUOTE=BassVirus_01;23525223]True. Cheers for the 5850 recommendations I'm new to this ATI stuff, but what about the GTX 460? Is that worth swapping my motherboard for? [URL="http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-M4N98TD-EVO-NF-980a-SLI-S-AM3-PCI-E-20-%28x16%29-DDR3-1066-1333-2000%28OC%29-SATA-3Gb-s-RAID-ATX"]http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-M4N98TD-EVO-NF-980a-SLI-S-AM3-PCI-E-20-%28x16%29-DDR3-1066-1333-2000%28OC%29-SATA-3Gb-s-RAID-ATX[/URL][/QUOTE] Nah.
460 is great for performance/price and unless you are playing at higher than 1920x1080 resolutions you dont need much more.
Switching from Nvidia to ATI was the biggest mistake I made. They haven't even released proper drivers for their card as the mouse is now 6 times the size it was before. In a few months I'm headed back to Nvidia to get a GTX 460.
[QUOTE=Marler;23534542]Switching from Nvidia to ATI was the biggest mistake I made. They haven't even released proper drivers for their card as the mouse is now 6 times the size it was before. In a few months I'm headed back to Nvidia to get a GTX 460.[/QUOTE] This is what's been worrying me. The cards are good but the service isn't. The reason why I'm asking here is because I've got a pretty strong AMD + ATI set up, so really for a future proof PC with an nvidia card I'm going to have to make some big changes. If I don't then I'll feel like my motherboard's going to waste... Ideally I want an X58 mobo that can take both sides very well, but that isn’t going to happen for a long time...
I have it the other way around then I guess... I have an ati 4600 and they release drivers for my card every month and it preforms very well for being an outdated crapcard.
Well I think I'm going to stick with nividia for now, I just know them better and I don't want to lose my Phys-X. So it'll probably be the 1GB EVGA GTX 460, seems a high hitter and low price. Was thinking of swapping my motherboard out for the Asus M4N98TD EVO. Its not a very well known board but it has everything I want, supports DDR3 1333 ram nicely with no OC, a 140W CPU, takes 2 16X nvidia cards in SLI. GPU : [URL]http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-EVGA-GTX-460-SC-3800MHz-GDDR5-GPU-763MHz-ShaderClock-1526MHz-336-Cores-2x-DL-DVI-I-MiniHDMI[/URL] + Mobo: [URL="http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-M4N98TD-EVO-NF-980a-SLI-S-AM3-PCI-E-20-%28x16%29-DDR3-1066-1333-2000%28OC%29-SATA-3Gb-s-RAID-ATX"]http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-M4N98TD-EVO-NF-980a-SLI-S-AM3-PCI-E-20-%28x16%29-DDR3-1066-1333-2000%28OC%29-SATA-3Gb-s-RAID-ATX[/URL] This seems good yeah?? Until I change my mind of course ¬_¬
If you really look at it, you're spending more money on changing the platform. You'll spend an extra $100 on the board, which takes away from the card. I suggest keeping with your platform, go with the 5850 or the 5870. Afterall, whats thats the difference. Sure the 5850 might not be as strong as the 460. Regardless, its a very fast and stable card. I say go with the 5850 and crossfire it later. Or go with the 5770 and crossfire it. Also, isn't there a workaround for ATi GPUS and PhysX?
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;23564185]If you really look at it, you're spending more money on changing the platform. You'll spend an extra $100 on the board, which takes away from the card. I suggest keeping with your platform, go with the 5850 or the 5870. Afterall, whats thats the difference. Sure the 5850 might not be as strong as the 460. Regardless, its a very fast and stable card. I say go with the 5850 and crossfire it later. Or go with the 5770 and crossfire it. Also, isn't there a workaround for ATi GPUS and PhysX?[/QUOTE] Yeah I've been looking into mixing ATI and Nvidia cards and apparently it is possible. Only if you use the Nvidia as a physX card only. But it's very tricky and can throw up some big driver issues. The GTX 460 compares more with the 5830 too so I've heard. The 5850 has a slight edge but not realy worth the extra £30-£40. As far as swapping the platform out, I can probably get £80 - £100 for my current motherboard which will almost pay for the Asus. Was planning on doing the same with the GTX 260, thats worth around £110.
[QUOTE=tommyc225;23525229]I second the 5850. DX11 y'all[/QUOTE] DX11 is nothing special.
[QUOTE=ghostofme;23564717]DX11 is nothing special.[/QUOTE] Yeah tesselation is nothing special.
Both the 5850 and the 460 will have DX11 so I'll be getting it either way.
[QUOTE=ghostofme;23564717]DX11 is nothing special.[/QUOTE] 4xx series has it aswell
I'm holding off on upgrading and waiting for the next "amazing" Direct X that's going to break the mold and blow the mind. Until I see something truly astounding, I'm going to stick with my 8800GTS.
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;23565605]I'm holding off on upgrading and waiting for the next "amazing" Direct X that's going to break the mold and blow the mind. Until I see something truly astounding, I'm going to stick with my 8800GTS.[/QUOTE] Hm. So you're going to be waiting around for the next 4 years with an 8800GTS? :haw: okkay!
[QUOTE=BassVirus_01;23564979]Both the 5850 and the 460 will have DX11 so I'll be getting it either way.[/QUOTE] The 460 performs better in DX11 I think.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;23564796]Yeah tesselation is nothing special.[/QUOTE] it isn't
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;23566567]Hm. So you're going to be waiting around for the next 4 years with an 8800GTS? :haw: okkay![/QUOTE] Whats your problem?
No you are wrong ATI to Nvidia.
I think Nvidia to ATI. Currently I have a 4890 and I can run most games easy. Physx isn't really in many games yet.
Very true. PhysX isnt that popular, but the games it is in are the games I realy enjoy. If the 5850 was say £20 or £30 cheaper then I'd buy it without thinking, it's just I know that as far as boom for buck goes the GTX 460 is the better card at the moment. I mean the 1GB EVGA SC is the hardest hitting version and costs only £180!
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