• Central Falls, RI - Fired every high school teacher in their town
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[URL="http://www.projo.com/education/content/central_falls_teachers.1_02-13-10_A8HEI7Q_v61.3a65218.html"]This is funny and sad news[/URL] [quote]CENTRAL FALLS –– The teachers didn’t blink. Under threat of losing their jobs if they didn’t go along with extra work for not a lot of extra pay, the Central Falls Teachers’ Union refused Friday morning to accept a reform plan for one of the worst-performing high schools in the state. The superintendent didn’t blink either. After learning of the union’s position, School Supt. Frances Gallo notified the state that she was switching to an alternative she was hoping to avoid: firing the entire staff at Central Falls High School. In total, about 100 teachers, administrators and assistants will lose their jobs. Gallo blamed the union’s “callous disregard” for the situation, saying union leaders “knew full well what would happen” if they rejected the six conditions Gallo said were crucial to improving the school. The conditions are adding 25 minutes to the school day, providing tutoring on a rotating schedule before and after school, eating lunch with students once a week, submitting to more rigorous evaluations, attending weekly after-school planning sessions with other teachers and participating in two weeks of training in the summer. The high school’s 74 teachers will receive letters during school vacation advising them to attend a Feb. 22 meeting where each will be handed a termination notice that takes effect for the 2010-’11 school year, Gallo said. Gallo said she was devastated and that she had thought the union would agree to her conditions, even though she did not offer to pay the teachers more for most of the additional responsibilities. A month ago, Education Commissioner [URL="http://www.projo.com/blcS.sc?search=Deborah+A.+Gist&cat=all"]Deborah A. Gist[/URL] mandated that the district adopt one of four models to fix the troubled school, which has some of the lowest graduation rates and test scores in the state. Gallo’s first choice, the “transformation” model, was consistent with her conditions on how to improve the high school. But if the teachers would not agree, the superintendent said she would select her second choice, the “turnaround” model, which requires the removal of the entire staff of the school. The turnaround model allows the district to hire back no more than 50 percent of the old staff. “I am saddened and shaken at the core by the enormous ramifications of my responsibilities,” Gallo said. “The only solace I have is that I know I provided every opportunity possible, in fully public and transparent ways, the means to avoid this.” Union officials say they, too, want to improve the high school but are unwilling to sign off on the six conditions, especially without receiving additional pay. In a letter, union officials said they do not think Gallo has the authority to fire the teachers and she must negotiate the terms of the reforms. In an interview, Jane M. Sessums, union president, said the union intends to fight the terminations, although she was not ready to say how. Students Friday expressed sadness, frustration and dismay at learning that their teachers would be fired en masse. Most had no idea why their teachers were being let go. “They are very sweet,” said André Monteiro, 19, a senior. “They help us out and get the job done. They treat us with respect.” “It’s sad,” said Jessica Lemur, another senior. “They stay when we need help. They love us. I was shocked when I heard the rumors.” A couple of parents said they were stunned by the announcement and said they blamed students, not teachers, for the high school’s consistently poor performance. “It’s not fair,” said Angela Perez, who has a daughter at the high school. “They shouldn’t be punished because the students are lazy.” “The teachers care so much,” said Perez’s daughter, Ivannah Perez, a recent Central Falls graduate. “I’ve seen them stay after school. I’ve seen them struggle. It’s the students. They don’t want to learn.” Most teachers declined to talk as they left school yesterday. But a couple of teachers paused long enough to share their thoughts. Sheila Lawless-Burke, an English-as-a-Second Language teacher, said teachers are not opposed to working harder — or longer; they simply want the opportunity to negotiate the details of their contract, not have it imposed from above. “It’s all about the politics,” she said, “about making Fran Gallo look good. The issue is having the right to negotiate. Once we allow the superintendent to get her foot in the door, where will it stop?” Gist, who has 10 days to review Gallo’s proposal, said she expects to make a decision early next week. “We know she is moving forward urgently and we want to support that,” Gist said. Gallo and Gist say they have the authority to make these changes, based on federal education regulations and on state law that allows the state to intervene in chronically failing schools and districts. “We’re very confident we are following both state and federal laws very carefully,” Gist said, “and, in fact, it’s the expectation both in state and federal law that we take these steps.”[/quote] Another example of just how dreadful the American Public School System is if they're resorting to firing (or at least trying to fire) the entire teaching staff of a school in order to try to improve it.
I know the Tea Party is behind this somehow, I just know it.
If people refuse to work I don't see a problem in firing them. The union is just causing them not to work.
I honestly think the conditions wouldn't be that hard to accept. But then again, I'm not a teacher, so whatever.
This is like Hitler having a school full of Jews.
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[QUOTE=TheOnlyHunter;20258643]This is like Hitler having a school full of Jews.[/QUOTE] :godwin:
Who is going to teach the children? way to go, 0% graduation. you sure achieved your goals.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20258592]If people refuse to work I don't see a problem in firing them. The union is just causing them not to work.[/QUOTE] They have good reason, why should they work more hours for not alot more pay?
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20260175]They have good reason, why should they work more hours for not alot more pay?[/QUOTE] Well how much are they getting paid now and how long are they being forced to work now? It's all relative. Teachers here make more than teachers in the states, maybe teachers there make more than the average.
Why is it that whenever something bad happens in America, everyone thinks America as a whole has bad education practices, but when it happens anywhere else, it's just that one school?
[QUOTE=trent_roolz;20260277]Why is it that whenever something bad happens in America, everyone thinks America as a whole has bad education practices, but when it happens anywhere else, it's just that one school?[/QUOTE] American education is getting increasingly rotten. The only reason its considered 'good' is largely thanks to grade inflation. Unions are largely responsible for the wasting of millions of dollars every year in the form of horrific teachers that school districts cannot fire because of union intervention. Because they are not allowed to teach, they are put into a 'rubber' room for the duration of their supposed shift, still being paid full time for it. [url=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/head_of_the_crass_qWrc4xPXr5UxSo8Npym2vO]There are hundreds of these 'rubber room' teachers, who are all being paid an average $100,000 per year, because of union intervention.[/url] Unions have gone from their original mission of protecting the worker to a corrupt, greedy, political machine. They're probably worse than both Democrats and Republicans combined.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20260265]Well how much are they getting paid now and how long are they being forced to work now? It's all relative. Teachers here make more than teachers in the states, maybe teachers there make more than the average.[/QUOTE] Actually no. And firing people under a Union that has cooperated with the system seems excessive. There is a tremendous teacher shortage in most areas, and by doing this they are letting their number one customer down, the tax-payers and their children. Furthermore, teacher's salaries are getting hammered in the North-east and they are continuously increasing the number of non-paid workdays. [editline]09:17PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;20260511]American education is getting increasingly rotten. The only reason its considered 'good' is largely thanks to grade inflation. Unions are largely responsible for the wasting of millions of dollars every year in the form of horrific teachers that school districts cannot fire because of union intervention. Because they are not allowed to teach, they are put into a 'rubber' room for the duration of their supposed shift, still being paid full time for it. [url=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/head_of_the_crass_qWrc4xPXr5UxSo8Npym2vO]There are hundreds of these 'rubber room' teachers, who are all being paid an average $100,000 per year, because of union intervention.[/url] Unions have gone from their original mission of protecting the worker to a corrupt, greedy, political machine. They're probably worse than both Democrats and Republicans combined.[/QUOTE] Although I do agree, the noncooperation of Unions has severely hindered education. I do think Unions are important, just not the Unions that refuse to give any ground.
Canada's Teacher's Union is the biggest union in Canada, they own franchises and shares in all major companies. Teacher's cry poor, I know a Teacher that own's two Boston Pizza's, a dance studio and well is a teacher, fuck life is hard!
This isn't that bad of an idea, a lot of teachers are just awful at doing their job. Even if you have horrible students a good enough teacher can set them straight.
[QUOTE=OutOfExile;20261303]This isn't that bad of an idea, a lot of teachers are just awful at doing their job. Even if you have horrible students a good enough teacher can set them straight.[/QUOTE] bullshit come to my school the public school system is a joke here in America, the bureaucracy of it is simply ridiculous - anyone with relatives or friends as teachers will back me up on this they measure school success via comparing test scores, which is a ridiculous notion since it does not take into account the poverty levels in the area example: my school is in the most fuckin' ghetto location in my city, drugs are sold, kids are beaten up, etc., etc. - our test scores are compared to the public school in the northern part of our city who's school is occupied predominately by white upper middle class families teachers really do care, but they don't need to be forced to care by adding time without pay and all that other bullshit oh and i forgot to mention in my school there is a large percentage of students whom have english as a second language (spanish being their first), while in the other school they predominately are english speakers - meaning that students have to be taught spanish and english at the same time which generally results in lower test scores
I don't know this particular school but: It's the parents' responsibility to send their kids to school disciplined and ready to be taught. Hiring new teachers won't suddenly 'teach' idiot students who skip class, disrupt class, or otherwise waste everyone's time because their families couldn't give two shits about school. We'll know about this school after they hire new teachers. I bet all that happens is test scores go up, because the new people will cheat and make sure the students suddenly 'learn' more. You think if my job and pay was based on my kids averaging a C I wouldn't figure out a way they all get at least C's?
FINALLY, some one is taking a stand against the unions!
[QUOTE=Glaber;20261611]FINALY, some one is taking a stand against the unions![/QUOTE] the firing of teachers results in more people like you - unable to spell "finally"
My teachers never worked with me to get me to spell correctly! They kept trying to push something called Career Focused Education (CFE for short) and the program does not work. If it did, I'd be working in the career I wanted in High School.
[QUOTE=wutanggrenad;20261250] Teacher's cry poor, I know a Teacher that own's two Boston Pizza's, a dance studio and well is a teacher, fuck life is hard![/QUOTE] So? They work for the money to get those, why shouldn't that teacher have a successful side business after saving up the money to get those? Also not all Teachers have two Boston Pizza's and a dance studio. Just because you're a box doesn't mean all teachers are rich fucks. [editline]10:22PM[/editline] [QUOTE=OutOfExile;20261303]This isn't that bad of an idea, a lot of teachers are just awful at doing their job. Even if you have horrible students a good enough teacher can set them straight.[/QUOTE] Bullshit. A student has to have some good intentions to learn something AT LEAST, a teacher can kindle those flames, those without any motivation, dead cases when they don't give a fuck, requires a miracle worker.
[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;20258487][URL="http://www.projo.com/education/content/central_falls_teachers.1_02-13-10_A8HEI7Q_v61.3a65218.html"]This is funny and sad news[/URL] Another example of just how dreadful the American Public School System is if they're resorting to firing (or at least trying to fire) the entire teaching staff of a school in order to try to improve it.[/QUOTE] I place the blame on the Unions for this one, they're the reason it lead to the whole staff being fired.
[QUOTE=OutOfExile;20261303]This isn't that bad of an idea, a lot of teachers are just awful at doing their job. Even if you have horrible students a good enough teacher can set them straight.[/QUOTE] Teachers teach their subject because they couldn't do that subject well enough to do anything else with it. That's where you get the teachers who hate teaching.
Well, I guess those teachers got schooled.
i blame the half-assed teachers who are coaches and just give the jocks passing grades and suck up to them
The Teachers' Unions in Rhode Island have done all sorts of shit. A while back (I think it was at least twenty years ago), a bunch of Providence teachers protested over something, despite it being illegal for teachers to organize strikes, so the courts held the teachers' unions president in contempt until they stopped picketing.
Unions, the ever convenient scapegoat for some people...
sCHOOOOOOOOOL'S OUT FOR-EVER
[B]Schoooooooooooooool's...... Out........ FOR... EVER![/B] [editline]03:18PM[/editline] Motherfucker.
[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;20260511]American education is getting increasingly rotten. The only reason its considered 'good' is largely thanks to grade inflation. Unions are largely responsible for the wasting of millions of dollars every year in the form of horrific teachers that school districts cannot fire because of union intervention. Because they are not allowed to teach, they are put into a 'rubber' room for the duration of their supposed shift, still being paid full time for it. [url=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/head_of_the_crass_qWrc4xPXr5UxSo8Npym2vO]There are hundreds of these 'rubber room' teachers, who are all being paid an average $100,000 per year, because of union intervention.[/url] Unions have gone from their original mission of protecting the worker to a corrupt, greedy, political machine. They're probably worse than both Democrats and Republicans combined.[/QUOTE] Hey, I wanna know which union can get my mom $100,000? Cause I've never heard of any BULLSHIT like that in my life, and oddly enough neither has my mom. Nor my union uncle who has to teach summer school and tutor throughout the year to make enough money to have a little extra cash after paying cost of living.
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