• Call of Duty: WWII's first images leak, include a guy with a gun
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Nice to see WW2 games again, but everything in those pictures seems far too clean and shiny.
It's a shame that in today's political climate there probably wont be a Russian campaign. IIRC the first game started with a Russian campaign based on the Enemy At The Gates film. I expect this to go full "America, fuck yeah !".
I have a feeling it's going to be something like one of the more recent CoD games with a WW2 skin over it. Historical accuracy is going to take a backseat, realism isn't going to exist, it's going to be like Battlefield in fast forward, and the multiplayer is just going to be a cluster fuck of UI information jizzing all over the screen It would be great if it was just a modernized CoD2 with some customization and profile flair. And I mean customization like playing as a 101st trooper, or a 1st ID, or a Ranger. Not Blue and white tiger striped camo
Spoiler alert on those images. Now the surprise that this is a game about guys with guns is ruined.
Personally, the only way i'd really see a WW2 CoD work in this day and age is with steampunk future-tech being thrown in. Sure, you could say "look at Wolfenstein", but given CoD's multiplayer focus, you'd have to somehow give [i]both[/i] the Allied Forces and Axis their own brand of giant robots and man-portable superweapons. Otherwise, CoD:WWII may as well be called "World At War Remastered"
[QUOTE=flashn00b;52138923] Otherwise, CoD:WWII may as well be called "World At War Remastered"[/QUOTE] Err, no? That would require it having the same levels and what not
[QUOTE=flashn00b;52138923]Personally, the only way i'd really see a WW2 CoD work in this day and age is with steampunk future-tech being thrown in. Sure, you could say "look at Wolfenstein", but given CoD's multiplayer focus, you'd have to somehow give [i]both[/i] the Allied Forces and Axis their own brand of giant robots and man-portable superweapons. Otherwise, CoD:WWII may as well be called "World At War Remastered"[/QUOTE] but then everyone is gonna cry about "muh realism" and "muh boots on muh ground" though people will still find a way to complain about this. CoD fans are never satisfied.
[QUOTE=flashn00b;52138923]Personally, the only way i'd really see a WW2 CoD work in this day and age is with steampunk future-tech being thrown in. Sure, you could say "look at Wolfenstein", but given CoD's multiplayer focus, you'd have to somehow give [i]both[/i] the Allied Forces and Axis their own brand of giant robots and man-portable superweapons. Otherwise, CoD:WWII may as well be called "World At War Remastered"[/QUOTE] You must mean dieselpunk, steampunk is a 19th century thing.
[QUOTE=flashn00b;52138923]Personally, the only way i'd really see a WW2 CoD work in this day and age is with steampunk future-tech being thrown in. Sure, you could say "look at Wolfenstein", but given CoD's multiplayer focus, you'd have to somehow give [i]both[/i] the Allied Forces and Axis their own brand of giant robots and man-portable superweapons. Otherwise, CoD:WWII may as well be called "World At War Remastered"[/QUOTE] tbh I'd rather something like that be done under a more deserving / original series it just wouldn't work well enough with CoD
[QUOTE=nightlord;52136946]Nice to see WW2 games again, but everything in those pictures seems far too clean and shiny.[/QUOTE] You know what games like these need? Developers implementing blood, dirt and grime to character models and the weapons you hold as they undergo combat, and i'm not talking strictly model swaps between chapters or at story events. Unless they're pre-emptively dirty by design, shooting hundreds of dudes in the face in the Call of Duty series usually just knocks off helmets and has them collapse with no wounds or anything. Meanwhile you're taking on explosives, bullets and carnage all around you but you wipe the blood jelly off your face and everything's clean as a whistle.
I'd be more surprised if they leaked aliens or dinosaurs in WWII
[QUOTE=TheTalon;52138323]I have a feeling it's going to be something like one of the more recent CoD games with a WW2 skin over it. Historical accuracy is going to take a backseat, realism isn't going to exist, it's going to be like Battlefield in fast forward, and the multiplayer is just going to be a cluster fuck of UI information jizzing all over the screen It would be great if it was just a modernized CoD2 with some customization and profile flair. And I mean customization like playing as a 101st trooper, or a 1st ID, or a Ranger. Not Blue and white tiger striped camo[/QUOTE] Based on what exactly? There's been nothing as of yet to suggest that it's going to be anything but a WW2 shooter and the most those 3 small images actually show is that someone is going to have a normal Thompson with a drug magazine standing near some bunkers and that this character will presumably be using said Thompson and that there's going to be a walk down a muddy road.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;52137969]It's a shame that in today's political climate there probably wont be a Russian campaign. IIRC the first game started with a Russian campaign based on the Enemy At The Gates film. I expect this to go full "America, fuck yeah !".[/QUOTE] it'd be nicer to get some less seen world war 2 stuff rather than the typical normandy, ardennes, stalingrad, moscow, iwo jima stuff. how about fall of france, malaysia, china, korea, karelia, burma or even general free french stuff
[QUOTE=flashn00b;52138923]Personally, the only way i'd really see a WW2 CoD work in this day and age is with steampunk future-tech being thrown in. Sure, you could say "look at Wolfenstein", but given CoD's multiplayer focus, you'd have to somehow give [i]both[/i] the Allied Forces and Axis their own brand of giant robots and man-portable superweapons. Otherwise, CoD:WWII may as well be called "World At War Remastered"[/QUOTE] Why even bother going back to World War II when you're just gonna shit it up with fantasy stuff like recent games have had? They might aswell just set the game in the far far future where we own the Galaxy and shit with Aliens because fuck it, that's basically on the same level as "steampunk future-tech".
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;52140035]it'd be nicer to get some less seen world war 2 stuff rather than the typical normandy, ardennes, stalingrad, moscow, iwo jima stuff. how about fall of france, malaysia, china, korea, karelia, burma or even general free french stuff[/QUOTE] I already feel tired of WW2 seeing those american soldiers in a normandy setting.
[QUOTE=junker|154;52140564]I already feel tired of WW2 seeing those american soldiers in a normandy setting.[/QUOTE] If they're going back to their roots, that's essentially what Call of Duty is about. It shouldn't come as a surprise. Personally, I'd like to do something following maybe a Fallschirmjager unit through Italy or Greece and then even Normandy. A German equivalent of Band of Brothers essentially with the same Call of duty flair. The thing is though, how exactly do you make a game about being the "losers"? History isn't on your side. You play the Germans you play a game where every victory would be meaningless because the backdrop of World War II says so. It is what it is. I can see how difficult it could be to properly engross players knowing that.
[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;52140824]The thing is though, how exactly do you make a game about being the "losers"? History isn't on your side. You play the Germans you play a game where every victory would be meaningless because the backdrop of World War II says so. It is what it is. I can see how difficult it could be to properly engross players knowing that.[/QUOTE] Plus it'd be kind of uncomfortable for most players if your "Brothers in Arms" in the Waffen SS rape their way through a village and having your allies go "well they deserved it they're untermensch lol". I think devs avoiding a German campaign is just them getting around the fact that most people (rightfully) still find the Nazis disgustingly evil. Sure the Allies did some bad shit but it's not like it was a part of their military doctrine.
I mean, not every German soldier was a racist SS soldier, a lot of them were just fighting for their country because of nationalism, just like Allied soldiers. I think it would be really cool if the campaign included a sympathetic German or Japanese protagonist that eventually becomes disillusioned with their country's cause. Probably too risky though.
[QUOTE=QueenSasha24;52140938]Plus it'd be kind of uncomfortable for most players if your "Brothers in Arms" in the Waffen SS rape their way through a village and having your allies go "well they deserved it they're untermensch lol". I think devs avoiding a German campaign is just them getting around the fact that most people (rightfully) still find the Nazis disgustingly evil. Sure the Allies did some bad shit but it's not like it was a part of their military doctrine.[/QUOTE] Publishers won't back the idea of an Axis Persepctive FPS because of flawed reasoning like your post (no offense intended), but also because CoD knows its audience and they don't want to learn anything, they want to shoot and blow things up like an action hero in a blockbuster movie and be the good guy. Short and small of it is, CoD is not mature enough to tell a story from the otherside's perspective with WW2.
There hasn't been a good ww2 game in a long time. I'm really glad the WW2 fad ended and now we can have something that isn't riding the coattails of Saving Private Ryan
While not an fps, one of the Company of Heroes expansions did a perfectly fine German campaign following a tank crew.
[QUOTE=Yogkog;52141084]I mean, not every German soldier was a racist SS soldier, a lot of them were just fighting for their country because of nationalism, just like Allied soldiers. I think it would be really cool if the campaign included a sympathetic German or Japanese protagonist that eventually becomes disillusioned with their country's cause. Probably too risky though.[/QUOTE] I highly recommend watching the movie Letters From Iwo Jima.
[QUOTE=Yogkog;52141084]I mean, not every German soldier was a racist SS soldier, a lot of them were just fighting for their country because of nationalism, just like Allied soldiers. I think it would be really cool if the campaign included a sympathetic German or Japanese protagonist that eventually becomes disillusioned with their country's cause. Probably too risky though.[/QUOTE] They could start with a standard German soldier fighting for his country, but eventually conspiring against Hitler and being caught (or not, if they decide to stray from reality). Media hates Nazis, but can they hate the German soldier that tries to kill Hitler? Seems like a pretty safe way to finally include some proper German campaigns.
why cant they make it gory and more surreal like waw
Hand clipping through the weapon, looks great! [img]http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/zDWUpf7DJQygUUdmATYUvn-650-80.jpg[/img] Same thing happening here. [img]http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/BM4SNikKTKfphYzmDaavvn-650-80.jpg[/img] Yeah no, i bet this game will only sell because of it's name. Quality be damned.
It's the Big Red One so hopefully we'll be getting some italian content, considering they fought in Sicily and North Africa.
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