• Samsung: 'We're not doing very well in the tablet market'
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[table] [tr] [td][QUOTE]BARCELONA, Spain--Samsung Electronics admitted that its attempt to breach the tablet market has largely been a flop, with one executive offering a sobering summary of its performance. "Honestly, we're not doing very well in the tablet market," Hankil Yoon, a product strategy executive for Samsung, said today during a media roundtable here. That's about as frank a statement as it gets from any executive at the Mobile World Congress trade show this week. That Samsung hasn't met expectations in its tablet business isn't a huge surprise; the company lags well behind Apple's iPad and even Amazon's Kindle Fire in the U.S. market. But for an executive to acknowledge the weakness is refreshing at a time when corporate-speak and jargon dominate conversations--particularly ones of a sensitive nature. Unlike Apple and other tablet vendors, Samsung has tried a shotgun approach at pushing its Galaxy Tab line of tablets. Initially offering a 7-inch version, it moved up to 10 inches and filled in the rest of the portfolio with sizes in between. Samsung, for the most part, was experimenting with the sizes and using the market as a testbed for what resonates with consumers. Samsung, however, appears to remain confident that the Galaxy Note will take off. The 5-inch version, which is already out in the market, has been hit by a string of criticism, largely due to its a size. While it acts as a phone, it looks more like a tweener product in between a smartphone and tablet, calling some to label it a "phablet." Yoon said he expects to ship 10 million units of the 5-inch Galaxy Note, lofty expectations for a company still smarting in the tablet business. He believes the S-Pen--the stylus that comes with the device--allows users to more easily create content, rather than consume it. Samsung earlier this week announced a 10.1-inch version of the Galaxy Note. When asked about the threat of redundant products, Yoon said he hoped the Note cannibalized sales of the original 10.1-inch Tab "The best thing to survive in the market is to kill your products," Yoon said. "We want to stay competitive in the market." That's why Samsung has been focused on pushing the Note and its S-Pen. Having struggled in the traditional tablet market, Samsung wanted to do something different in the category, Yoon said. He added that he no longer carries a physical notepad or papers, and does all of his note-taking on the 5-inch Note. "Even if the design is similar, how you use the (Note) is totally different," he said. Yoon dismissed the early criticism of the device, saying it would take some education for consumers to get comfortable with the larger size. He noted that three years ago, the largest phone in its line up had a 3.7-inch display, while the Galaxy S II has a 4.3-inch screen. It's just a matter of adapting to a larger screen. "Once I used this, the Galaxy S II looks too small," he said. "I don't go back to any other smartphone or tablet." Read more: [url]http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57385739-78/samsung-were-not-doing-very-well-in-the-tablet-market/#ixzz1nbIYJxLj[/url][/QUOTE] [/td] [td][IMG]http://asset2.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/02/27/Galaxy_Note_Roundtable_610x407.JPG[/IMG][/td] [/tr] [/table] Not a surprise, they don't offer innovation (Asus Transformer), ecosystems or price (Kindle Fire), or crazy optimization, battery life, dev support (iPad 2) or anything really noteworthy. I wonder if they will switch to Windows 8 for hybrids when it comes out.
That may be true but Samsung are booming in the smartphone market.
[QUOTE=Zaur;34894367]That may be true but Samsung are booming in the smartphone market.[/QUOTE] The Galaxy Nexus is amazing, it's only flaws are battery life and price. Other than that it is the best phone on the market. Chrome for Android <3
Stick to what you do best and make it better. Asus already pretty much have the mid-range and up Android tablet market on lockdown. [QUOTE=The Baconator;34894419]The Galaxy Nexus is amazing, it's only flaws are battery life and price. Other than that it is the best phone on the market. Chrome for Android <3[/QUOTE] Ï (personally) see the lack of SD-card slot as a serious flaw.
[QUOTE=Van-man;34894431]Stick to what you do best and make it better. Asus already pretty much have the mid-range and up Android tablet market on lockdown. Ï (personally) see the lack of SD-card slot as a serious flaw.[/QUOTE] 32GB is more than anyone would need for a phone...what do you put on there :v:?
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34894474]32GB is more than anyone would need for a phone...what do you put on there :v:?[/QUOTE]Who cares, that's not a good excuse to not have an sd slot. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] Also porn
[QUOTE=Van-man;34894431]Stick to what you do best and make it better. Asus already pretty much have the mid-range and up Android tablet market on lockdown. Ï (personally) see the lack of SD-card slot as a serious flaw.[/QUOTE] I was annoyed about that when I bought it, but I only have a 16GB galaxy nexus and I haven't had to use an SD card once... the battery has been totally fine for me too, unless I'm playing nonstop games with fancy shaders it usually lasts 2 or 3 days.
[QUOTE=Elspin;34896284]I was annoyed about that when I bought it, but I only have a 16GB galaxy nexus and I haven't had to use an SD card once... the battery has been totally fine for me too, unless I'm playing nonstop games with fancy shaders it usually lasts 2 or 3 days.[/QUOTE]2-3 days count as good these days? Damn my old dumbphone has spoiled me, being able to live 7 days under some talking (about 40-60 mins a day)
My nokia phone/tank lasts a good week.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34896318]2-3 days count as good these days? Damn my old dumbphone has spoiled me, being able to live 7 days under some talking (about 40-60 mins a day)[/QUOTE] Yeah, I know - there's a big difference though, I had an old LG flipphone and it lasted for a bit longer than a week, but smart phones are a different business. Batteries are shit, honestly. (To be honest though as long as it lasts longer than a day, it doesn't matter because you can just plug it in when you go to sleep)
God damnit Posted from galaxy tab 10.1 I swear if I don't get ice can sandwich...
I am hoping that 2012 brings in a good tablet. I had my eyes on the Asus Transformer Prime but after reading about some of the issues it had (GPS, etc) even after the released fix, I decided to wait a bit. I just have some insane luck with defective hardware.
I feel like the only person on the planet who doesn't give a shit about phones or tablets.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34894474]32GB is more than anyone would need for a phone...what do you put on there :v:?[/QUOTE] IS that a challenge? If my Desire Z supported HDMI out, I would load it up to the brim with HD movies. But it doesn't, so it's just movies cropped to the screen size of my phone.
[QUOTE=Datsun;34896524]I am hoping that 2012 brings in a good tablet. I had my eyes on the Asus Transformer Prime but after reading about some of the issues it had (GPS, etc) even after the released fix, I decided to wait a bit. I just have some insane luck with defective hardware.[/QUOTE] The Transformer itself is already a good tablet. I've not heard that many good things about the Prime, but the TF101 is worth it, I use mine all the time. It should be cheaper, too, due to the Prime. Also, the screen of the Transformer is gorgeous.
I love their phones, I have a Samsung Galaxy S2(Sprint variant), great phone large enough screen for my Sasquatch hands. Their monitors are also great from experience.
Company releases "Food Cloner" Every other desperate company produces 100,000 different versions of the same thing, except with a different look and free pens.
[QUOTE=GameAdict;34896752]Company releases "Food Cloner" Every other desperate company produces 100,000 different versions of the same thing, except with a different look and free pens.[/QUOTE] Then Apple sues them all because apples are food.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34896318]2-3 days count as good these days? Damn my old dumbphone has spoiled me, being able to live 7 days under some talking (about 40-60 mins a day)[/QUOTE] No smartphone lasts much longer than 2-3 days in my experience. A lot of them need recharging in the evening. Take it this way - the phones themselves having grown stronger, have much bigger screens and overall are just beefier. 3g, wifi and ho knows what else. in contrast to that. Batteries have improved only marginally.
[QUOTE=GameAdict;34896752]Company releases "Food Cloner" Every other desperate company produces 100,000 different versions of the same thing, except with a different look and free pens.[/QUOTE] [t]http://www.onestophumour.com/images/1325469728-50540.jpg[/t] The free pens came long before the food, to be honest.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34896318]2-3 days count as good these days? Damn my old dumbphone has spoiled me, being able to live 7 days under some talking (about 40-60 mins a day)[/QUOTE] You're forgetting that smartphones are way more advances. Basically you get a lot more Teraflops per Watt than your old dumbphone.
[QUOTE=DrLuke;34896943]You're forgetting that smartphones are way more advances. Basically you get a lot more Teraflops per Watt than your old dumbphone.[/QUOTE]I fucking know that, I am not a retard. Just saying my dumbphone has spoiled me in regards to battery life.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34897558]I fucking know that, I am not a retard. Just saying my dumbphone has spoiled me in regards to battery life.[/QUOTE] Wow, chill out. Besides, most smartphones will last a day and plugging them in every night isn't a hassle
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34894636]Who cares, that's not a good excuse to not have an sd slot. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] Also porn[/QUOTE] Porn? That's where tablets come in, you'll want a large display for that unless it's just a small folder of images and a video or two. I suppose the Galaxy Note could work though.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34894474]32GB is more than anyone would need for a phone...what do you put on there :v:?[/QUOTE] Speak for yourself, a flaw is a flaw regardless of if it affects you. I have over 40GB used on my Galaxy S II. On top of that, the LTE Gnex is the only version with 32GB storage.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34894419]The Galaxy Nexus is amazing, it's only flaws are battery life and price. Other than that it is the best phone on the market. Chrome for Android <3[/QUOTE] It is truly the first Android Phone to go above and beyond the iPhone in terms of UI and features and prettiness. The only flaws I still see in this phone, and in Android, are battery life, camera quality, and a fragmented, not curated, App Market.
[QUOTE=Van-man;34894431]Stick to what you do best and make it better. Asus already pretty much have the mid-range and up Android tablet market on lockdown. Ï (personally) see the lack of SD-card slot as a serious flaw.[/QUOTE] I was worried about that when I was getting mine, but I've since changed my mind. You get free access to Google Music (hosting and streaming for up to 20,000 songs), so there's no worry about room for music, and with 4G/Netflix I can watch videos online too. From someone who usually goes overboard with putting shit on my phone, I can safely say that the lack of an SD card slot is NOT an issue with the Nexus (for most users, anyway).
[QUOTE=Bassplaya7;34900319]I was worried about that when I was getting mine, but I've since changed my mind. You get free access to Google Music (hosting and streaming for up to 20,000 songs), so there's no worry about room for music, and with 4G/Netflix I can watch videos online too. From someone who usually goes overboard with putting shit on my phone, I can safely say that the lack of an SD card slot is NOT an issue with the Nexus (for most users, anyway).[/QUOTE] I don't have the cold cash to pay a monthly fee for unlimited (or loosely restricted) 3G. So local storage is still (and will always be) the boss for me.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;34894474]32GB is more than anyone would need for a phone...what do you put on there :v:?[/QUOTE] I remember when people were saying that PCs with 16 MB of RAM and a 1 GB hard drive would be all that we ever needed. Then Windows 95 came out and the gaming revolution happened.
[QUOTE=Elspin;34896933][t]http://www.onestophumour.com/images/1325469728-50540.jpg[/t] The free pens came long before the food, to be honest.[/QUOTE] I think it's about what you can do with it, it's not about the device itself. For instance, I remember early tablets were trying to run some form of Windows that would allow them to run Windows software- fail! Sure, from Microsoft's perspective the more devices running on Windows the better, but it makes no sense from any other perspective. I think Android tablets have a different problem. They are the upstarts, the challengers to Ipad. Therefore they need to offer more for less, which they have not been doing. This means if they come up with an Android tablet that is as fast as an Ipad, has a screen as big, has an OS as responsive, has as much memory and storage as an Ipad, and so on- they STILL have to be cheaper. Why would the average consumer buy an Android tablet if they could get an Ipad for almost the same price?
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