• Sudanese dude almost managed to walk from France to England through the Channel Tunnel
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-33803928[/url] [quote]A migrant was stopped inside the Channel Tunnel walking towards the UK, according to Eurotunnel. The Sudanese national was arrested a few kilometres from the British entrance of the 50.5 km (31-mile) tunnel on Tuesday. A spokesman for Eurotunnel said the person "almost succeeded in walking through the tunnel". The train operator held an "unplanned" inspection on the same day, which led to four-hour delays. A 40-year-old man, of no fixed address, has been charged with causing an obstruction to an engine or carriage using the railway and was due to appear at Medway Magistrates' Court on Thursday.[/quote]
Was about to ask if it's been done before but- [quote]The incident came on the same night that migrants made about 600 attempts to enter the Channel Tunnel. 'Intrusions down' About 180 people were caught inside the site, with 20 arrested. However, intrusions were down to about 400 a night on Tuesday and Wednesday, according to Eurotunnel. It said additional efforts to secure the French terminal were almost complete and attempted intrusions by migrants were now being brought under control. There have been thousands of attempts to access the terminal at Coquelles in recent weeks, with nine people killed trying to get into the tunnel since June.[/quote] Holy moly!
[QUOTE=OvB;48392472]Was about to ask if it's been done before but- Holy moly![/QUOTE] Oh the tabloid media in the UK is having a field day getting the masses outraged
[QUOTE=OvB;48392472]Was about to ask if it's been done before but- Holy moly![/QUOTE] They're determined I'll give them that.
Why do they even want to come here anyway? I mean, [I]surely[/I], Italy, France, Greece, however many first-world countries they go through to get to Calais, [B]why[/B] do they want to come here? If they truly feared for their life, I'm sure I'm with a lot of brits here and would gladly give them shelter and protection, but the fact they're going through [I]multiple[/I] countries that would gladly welcome them in to get to ours just sounds like it's an economic thing to me.
Jesus Christ that's around 8 hours of walking.
I don't understand the fad either, what do they think is so great about the UK?
[QUOTE=Lord Xenoyia;48392550]Why do they even want to come here anyway? I mean, [I]surely[/I], Italy, France, Greece, however many first-world countries they go through to get to Calais, [B]why[/B] do they want to come here? If they truly feared for their life, I'm sure I'm with a lot of brits here and would gladly give them shelter and protection, but the fact they're going through [I]multiple[/I] countries that would gladly welcome them in to get to ours just sounds like it's an economic thing to me.[/QUOTE] I think it's because the U.K. primarily speaks English which is significantly easier to get by with just a very small amount of knowledge on than Italian, Greek, etc.. English is one of the hardest languages to master but very easy to pick up the bare minimum basics of.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;48392560]Jesus Christ that's around 8 hours of walking.[/QUOTE] 8 Hours of walking in low to near nothing oxygen, theres a reason why the workers who maintain the tunnel go in with oxygen tanks.
[QUOTE=Lord Xenoyia;48392550]Why do they even want to come here anyway? I mean, [I]surely[/I], Italy, France, Greece, however many first-world countries they go through to get to Calais, [B]why[/B] do they want to come here?[/QUOTE] I have a pet theory that they see our papers over where they are and read about the (completely inaccurate) "free money" benefit system and the "swarms" of immigrants claiming tons of money without giving anything back. A real suggestion could be they might speak english but not french etc. so want to go to the UK.
They shouldn't have arrest him rather they should have given him a god damn award for Pete's sake.
I'm not even saying I don't feel bad for these guys, hell, if I was over there and knew I could get a free house, free money, free mobile phones and free healthcare by coming here, you bet I would. I don't even think most of them claim benefits. I have no problem with the guys who come here because they think they can get a better life, [B]if[/B] they work legally and pay into the system before claiming any kind of benefits. The ones who don't are the ones most people have a problem with, as most of us have paid taxes into the system for [I]years[/I] before getting any kind of welfare (including the NHS and housing in this) and it just seems almost 'unfair' for people to just wander through the channel tunnel and get a house, money and more.
[QUOTE=HighOnSinz;48392587]I have a pet theory that they see our papers over where they are and read about the (completely inaccurate) "free money" benefit system and the "swarms" of immigrants claiming tons of money without giving anything back. A real suggestion could be they might speak english but not french etc. so want to go to the UK.[/QUOTE] But risking getting arrested or even smashed by a train just to get to an english speaking country? Also it's not like it's a big problem to find an english speaking person in France (actually it's not a problem at all).
[QUOTE=antianan;48392693]But risking getting arrested or even smashed by a train just to get to an english speaking country? Also it's not like it's a big problem to find an english speaking person in France (actually it's not a problem at all).[/QUOTE] This is true. Potentially the tabloids like Daily Mail and shit giving a clickbaity and incorrect view of the benefits system comes into play as well. It's a larger group of reasons that just language, but language is definitely one of them I think.
[QUOTE=morky;48392626]They shouldn't have arrest him rather they should have given him a god damn award for Pete's sake.[/QUOTE] Yes, award a person for attempted illegal activity. We're trying to stop this mess, not encourage it.
[QUOTE=morky;48392626]They shouldn't have arrest him rather they should have given him a god damn award for Pete's sake.[/QUOTE] Might as well as make a death maze, if you survive you are granted citizenship only the strongest migrant will survive. I will call it... The Citizen Games
What I don't understand is why there isn't armed security here. All it takes is -one- Isis sympathizer, or other extremist, to get in to the tunnel with sufficient explosives and it'll cause BILLIONS in damages. And that's discounting the billions it'll take to dig a new set of tunnels. It sucks for these people, but we don't have to take care of them. It's their problem, not ours. Put armed guards, meet any incursions with (deadly) force, secure the area.
[QUOTE=draugur;48392572]English is one of the hardest languages to master...[/QUOTE] Ah c'mon, nouns have no gender, cases are a joke... it's probably THE most simple language there is. Definitely more simple than German, not to mention Croatian, to pick up or master.
[QUOTE=Lord Xenoyia;48392550]Why do they even want to come here anyway? I mean, [I]surely[/I], Italy, France, Greece, however many first-world countries they go through to get to Calais, [B]why[/B] do they want to come here? If they truly feared for their life, I'm sure I'm with a lot of brits here and would gladly give them shelter and protection, but the fact they're going through [I]multiple[/I] countries that would gladly welcome them in to get to ours just sounds like it's an economic thing to me.[/QUOTE] Probably most of the international media they receive comes from the UK. If you were leaving your home country, where would you go, some place you have no idea of, or some place where you might have some semblance of knowledge about the culture/people/language? Also If they hear even a little bit about Europe they'll know that the UK is probably the most stable out of all the places you listed. Not to mention why would you stop in some place where they'd easily be able to deport you back across the Mediterranean like Greece?
[QUOTE=Reagy;48392571]I don't understand the fad either, what do they think is so great about the UK?[/QUOTE] This is mostly because english is a lot easier to learn than italian/spanish/german/anything else, and unless i'm terribly wrong there isn't as much [b]drama[/b] happening in the UK compared to France/other countries, so it feels safer to move there.
I'm still not getting the whole 'immigration crisis' in Calais. From what I've read online, it appears to have been going on for the past decade or more. So have there been a bunch of illegal immigrants just floating around near Calais all this time?
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;48399159]English is very counter-intuitive and its filled with strange exceptions.[/QUOTE] For perfect English, yeah; but those exceptions can be skipped and ignored and you'd still make perfect sense, even if your grammar is incorrect. Most any other language is an absolute trainwreck compared to English. [editline]7th August 2015[/editline] People who have English as their native, maybe only language aren't really qualified to call it hard, if you ask me.
Imagine walking all that way, seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, and then being clapped in iron.
[QUOTE=Riller;48399257]For perfect English, yeah; but those exceptions can be skipped and ignored and you'd still make perfect sense, even if your grammar is incorrect. Most any other language is an absolute trainwreck compared to English. [editline]7th August 2015[/editline] People who have English as their native, maybe only language aren't really qualified to call it hard, if you ask me.[/QUOTE] I agree with you for the most part, but I've worked with people who have lived here for 5+ years and still are not able to understand certain words or "rough" English, or even any English at all. The language doesn't really matter, it's how much of it you're willing to learn. Some are harder than others yes, but it really comes down to the person breaking their own habits and trying something new. There's a reason children can learn them so easily (an open mind and a willingness to learn).
[QUOTE=Reagy;48392571]I don't understand the fad either, what do they think is so great about the UK?[/QUOTE] More economic stability than France, Spain, Italy or Greece, and better chances at employment most likely.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;48396784]Idunno I think since a lot of these people including the man from the article don't even have fixed addresses deserve a little more leewaythan people who; 1. Were raised in the culture they are trying to live in. 2. speak english fluently. 3. have family and friends who they can fall back on. 4. aren't going to be discriminated against.[/QUOTE] Why? Why should misfortune and incompatibility (1,2) grant anyone entitlement? Support or a chance for a better life is one thing, but this is absurd.
The EU has made Europe weak with it's open borders, it's time either the EU is disbanded or let countries take control of their borders. A fence is a deterrent, not a resolution, a resolution would be to deport them straight away without legal proceedings, at the very least put them in the nearest safe country where they are from aka African\middle eastern country like Australia does with their issue, they are not European, they travel through safe countries to reach their destination. It's not Europe's responsibility to those in Africa or the middle east, they often pay up to £2000 for a boat initially with plans to bring their family over if asylum is accepted. This is mass economic migration, not people in need, they need to know this is not an acceptable method of migration, the real people who need Asylum are the ones being effected here.
I don't know what's more surprising, the fact that this guy almost walked from France to England or the fact that I didn't know there was a tunnel under the channel connecting France and England. [editline]7th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Amiga OS;48399159]English is very counter-intuitive and its filled with strange exceptions.[/QUOTE] I think that English is one of the easiest languages to learn, in fact the only one I know of that is easier is Spanish. Then again it might be easier for a European to learn than it is for someone from Africa or Asia because of the sounds in the language.
[QUOTE=Lord Xenoyia;48392550]Why do they even want to come here anyway?[/QUOTE] Because of all the benefits that they'd be entitled to and the fact the government is so lenient on them. Hell there have even been news reports of these migrants being given taxis to London... [editline]7th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=proch;48399570]Why? Why should misfortune and incompatibility (1,2) grant anyone entitlement? Support or a chance for a better life is one thing, but this is absurd.[/QUOTE] Because if you don't grant them entitlement then you're racist.
I'll concede that the guy accomplished one hell of a feat almost making it all the way through the tunnel. But honestly fuck off and stop trying to break into the fucking country, you do it legally or not at all.
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