How come 32 bit is x86 and is the higher number and 64 bit is x64. x64 makes sense but x86 = 32 bit?
What about if there is ever going to be a 128 bit operating system? x12?
I always wondered the same thing.
The old Intel 8086 processor.
And x64 is short for x86-64.
what i want to know is why we still use it
[QUOTE=rampageturke;20516893]what i want to know is why we still use it[/QUOTE]
We still use the x86 specification.
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Maybe wiki can explain it better:
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As the x86 term became common after the introduction of the 80386, it usually implies binary compatibility with the 32-bit instruction set of the 80386. This may sometimes be emphasized as x86-32 to distinguish it either from the original 16-bit x86-16 or from the newer 64-bit x86-64 (also called x64).[3] Although most x86 processors used in new personal computers and servers have 64-bit capabilities, to avoid compatibility problems with older computers or systems, the terms x86-64 and x64 are often used to denote 64-bit software, with the term x86 implying only 32-bit.[4][5]
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[QUOTE=alphaspida;20516246]What about if there is ever going to be a 128 bit operating system? x12?[/QUOTE]
I think I read something about a rumor about MS making a 128 bit OS. But it's nothing more than a rumor.
I can't even think of any good reason why you could possible need this. The only real advantage 64bits have is the bigger address space available.
[QUOTE=Robber;20517477]I think I read something about a rumor about MS making a 128 bit OS. But it's nothing more than a rumor.
I can't even think of any good reason why you could possible need this. The only real advantage 64bits have is the bigger address space available.[/QUOTE]
and even then it's hard to determine if there's any difference to be made
VALVe doesn't have a 64-bit client for Steam, so all games that [I]could maybe[/I] have 64-bit support, such as a few UE3 titles and Crysis, don't. and it's irritating.
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the only reason it's so irritating is because i want my games to see and utilize more than 3.5 or 4GB or whatever RAM. (i have 6GB)
[QUOTE=Robber;20517477]I think I read something about a rumor about MS making a 128 bit OS. But it's nothing more than a rumor.
I can't even think of any good reason why you could possible need this. The only real advantage 64bits have is the bigger address space available.[/QUOTE]
It's a 128 bit filesystem, not OS.
128 bit filesystems have been around forever in the non-Windows world though.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;20519520]It's a 128 bit filesystem, not OS.
128 bit filesystems have been around forever in the non-Windows world though.[/QUOTE]
Puhlease. Microsoft will never update NTFS and we all know it.
[QUOTE=Panda X;20519631]Puhlease. Microsoft will never update NTFS and we all know it.[/QUOTE]
It would be nice if they offered ext3/4 support when installing though.
[QUOTE=Panda X;20519631]Puhlease. Microsoft will never update NTFS and we all know it.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, I forgot about how many times they dropped the ball on WinFS. :v:
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[QUOTE=rieda1589;20519674]It would be nice if they offered ext3/4 support when installing though.[/QUOTE]
But Btrfs is the future.
I think x64 is Microsoft's way of talking about non-Itanium 64-bit architecture in general.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;20519707]Oh yeah, I forgot about how many times they dropped the ball on WinFS. :v:
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But Btrfs is the future.[/QUOTE]
WinFS isn't a file system. It is what today's Windows Search is. FS stood for Future Storage in which there would be new ways to interact with files based on metadata and whatnot.
Parts of WinFS are now in Windows Indexing Service and SQL Server 2008.
[QUOTE=M_B;20517548]and even then it's hard to determine if there's any difference to be made
VALVe doesn't have a 64-bit client for Steam, so all games that [I]could maybe[/I] have 64-bit support, such as a few UE3 titles and Crysis, don't. and it's irritating.
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the only reason it's so irritating is because i want my games to see and utilize more than 3.5 or 4GB or whatever RAM. (i have 6GB)[/QUOTE]
Why would steam need to be 64-bit? HL2 used to have a 64bit mode before, but they removed it because nobody used it.
That's not why they removed it.
[QUOTE=Panda X;20523914]That's not why they removed it.[/QUOTE]
Enlighten me on why they did it, then.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;20524532]Enlighten me on why they did it, then.[/QUOTE]
They wouldn't just remove it. They'd let it die out. I can't find any news about it, but it doesn't make sense to not just leave it as-is.
They probably removed it because of all the people having problems with it.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;20521820]Why would steam need to be 64-bit? HL2 used to have a 64bit mode before, but they removed it because nobody used it.[/QUOTE]
so that games that support 64-bit can be installed and use 64-bit...i thought i explained that pretty clearly
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and they removed 64-bit from HL2 because they didn't really perfect it too well and at the time it actually hilariously caused load times to be longer. crashes, AI would just stop doing things, etc.
Was it not because 32 bit was created in 1986? and 64 bit in 1964 ?
[QUOTE=Strikebango;20529545]Was it not because 32 bit was created in 1986? and 64 bit in 1964 ?[/QUOTE]
That makes no sense.
[QUOTE=Strikebango;20529545]Was it not because 32 bit was created in 1986? and 64 bit in 1964 ?[/QUOTE]
Uh...
No. The 4-bit Intel 4004 was commercially released in 1971, and how can a 64 bit CPU existed ten years before that?
[QUOTE=B1N4RY!;20531837]Uh...
No. The 4-bit Intel 4004 was commercially released in 1971, and how can a 64 bit CPU existed ten years before that?[/QUOTE]
Science!
[QUOTE=rieda1589;20519674]It would be nice if they offered ext3/4 support when installing though.[/QUOTE]
They won't even support grub, good luck with that.
[QUOTE=UberMensch;20519780]I think x64 is Microsoft's way of talking about non-Itanium 64-bit architecture in general.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X64[/url]
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