• Man gets arrested for modifying game consoles
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[url]http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/tech/Cal-State-Student-Faces-10-Year-Prison-Term-for-Playing-with-Video-Games-52386872.html[/url] [quote="http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/tech/Cal-State-Student-Faces-10-Year-Prison-Term-for-Playing-with-Video-Games-52386872.html"] Playing with video games can lead to hard time, just ask Matthew Lloyd Crippen. The Cal State Fullerton student was arrested Monday on federal charges that he illegally modified Xbox, Playstation, Wii and other video game consoles to enable the machines to play pirated video games. Crippen, 27, of Anaheim, was taken into custody Monday morning by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents. The arrest follows his indictment by a federal grand jury on two counts of violating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Specifically, the college student is accused of modifying for personal financial gain technology affecting control or access to a copyrighted work, according to an ICE statement. Each criminal count carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. The charges against Crippen stem from an ICE investigation initiated late last year after the agency received a tip from the Entertainment Software Association. Last May, ICE agents executed a federal search warrant at Crippen's home, where they seized more than a dozen Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony video game consoles. “Playing with games in this way is not a game -- it is criminal,” said Robert Schoch, special agent in charge of the ICE investigations office in Los Angeles. “Piracy, counterfeiting and other intellectual property rights violations not only cost U.S. businesses jobs and billions of dollars a year in lost revenue, they can also pose significant health and safety risks to consumers,” he said. Counterfeiting and piracy have grown in recent years in both magnitude and complexity, according to ICE. Industry and trade associations estimate that counterfeiting and piracy now cost the U.S. economy as much as $250 billion a year and a total of 750,000 American jobs. Some estimates indicate that 5 percent to 8 percent of all the goods and merchandise sold worldwide are counterfeit. Crippen was expected to make his initial federal court appearance late Monday in Los Angeles.[/quote] I wonder how it felt to ruin somebodies life because they modified hardware that they bought and own. It's scary that you don't even really own the hardware these days and if you have knowledge and use said knowledge for some reason or another then the corporations will ask the government to put you in not just any jail, but the same jail that the people who steal cars and beat their wives get put in, laws like these are created so that they can arrest just about anyone. I like the crazy figure they come up with for the "losses". If you want to put it that way, i've lost over $100,000 because I have had to waste time screwing with broken DRM on products I own. [b]Fun Fact:[/b] Watching a DVD you own with a non authorized player is a federal crime.
He modified his consoles to play pirated games? I don't see why you think he didn't do anything wrong.
Maximum penalty of 5 years for modifying a game console to play pirated games? God damn.
at first I thought he was arrested for putting neon lights on his 360 or something
“Piracy, counterfeiting and other intellectual property rights violations not only cost U.S. businesses jobs and billions of dollars a year in lost revenue, they can also pose significant health and safety risks to consumers,” he said. Uh? Health and safety risks?
Why don't people ever read the EULA?
[QUOTE=poryon2;16618249]Maximum penalty of 5 years for modifying a game console to play pirated games? God damn.[/QUOTE] -snip-
[QUOTE=Trogdon;16618210]He modified his consoles to play pirated games? I don't see why you think he didn't do anything wrong.[/QUOTE] I think the point is it's a little harsh for something so over-exaggerated. If corporations were having such financial problems from it it would be a lot more obvious.
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;16618259]“Piracy, counterfeiting and other intellectual property rights violations not only cost U.S. businesses jobs and billions of dollars a year in lost revenue, they can also pose significant health and safety risks to consumers,” he said. Uh? Health and safety risks?[/QUOTE] Catching the Xbox on fire.
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;16618259]“Piracy, counterfeiting and other intellectual property rights violations not only cost U.S. businesses jobs and billions of dollars a year in lost revenue, they can also pose significant health and safety risks to consumers,” he said. Uh? Health and safety risks?[/QUOTE] Counterfeit xboxes could be made with hazardous materials or something?
[QUOTE=poryon2;16618249]Maximum penalty of 5 years for modifying a game console to play pirated games? God damn.[/QUOTE] Uhh, the maximum penalties for crimes are very generous. He isn't going to get 5 years. He probably won't get any more than a fine.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16618297]Uhh, the maximum penalties for crimes are very generous. He isn't going to get 5 years. He probably won't get any more than a fine.[/QUOTE] good thing he wasn't sentenced by this judge [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=789961[/url]
[QUOTE=rilez;16618319]good thing he wasn't sentenced by this judge [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=789961[/url][/QUOTE] In two months you'll need to edit your post to say this ex-judge.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16618271]Catching the Xbox on fire.[/QUOTE] But it doesn't even say modifying hardware, it just says piracy and copyright infringement. What, can I give myself AIDS by illegally downloading music or something?
Seriously that bitch had a boner for exerting authority. [editline]02:13AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lyoko774;16618329]But it doesn't even say modifying hardware, it just says piracy and copyright infringement. What, can I give myself AIDS by illegally downloading music or something?[/QUOTE] That's because he was arrested for software piracy, not modifying the xbox. [editline]02:14AM[/editline] Just because the subject line of the thread says it doesn't mean it's true.
The moral of the story. Don't be an idiot, if you're going to modify an Xbox do it only on your own and don't gloat to your friends and charge them $50.00 for the mod.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16618264]Why don't people ever read the EULA?[/QUOTE] Yea, cause everyone reads the agreement stuff when they install stuff or do anything. [I]Next, next, I accept, next, wait for install, finish.[/I] I'm pretty sure that's what everyone does. The same goes with anything else.
[QUOTE=phill977;16618374]Yea, cause everyone reads the agreement stuff when they install stuff or do anything. [I]Next, next, I accept, next, wait for install, finish.[/I] I'm pretty sure that's what everyone does. The same goes with anything else.[/QUOTE] Uhh, no, some of us read legal documentation that can send us to prison before we agree to legal documentation that can send us to prison.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16618387]Uhh, no, some of us read legal documentation that can send us to prison before we agree to legal documentation that can send us to prison.[/QUOTE] I highly doubt you do, and I can reasonably believe you're just being devil's advocate. No one, and I mean no one sits through and reads the EULA. And even if they did and disagreed with it they just spent $50.00 on something they can't use. So it's an inevitable thing, you're going to have to "Agree" anyways, so why read it?
[QUOTE=Bredirish123;16618416]I highly doubt you do, and I can reasonably believe you're just being devil's advocate. No one, and I mean no one sits through and reads the EULA. And even if they did and disagreed with it they just spent $50.00 on something they can't use. So it's an inevitable thing, you're going to have to "Agree" anyways, so why read it?[/QUOTE] Yes I do.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16618434]Yes I do.[/QUOTE] no
If an EULA says that they reserve the right to press charges against me for using the product in a way in which it was not intended to be used without detailed explanation as to what they intend it to be used for, I will not agree. [editline]02:22AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Bredirish123;16618437]no[/QUOTE] Yes.
no no you don't read it i was fucking there and say you MEXICANS DON'T READ LEGAL DOCUMENTS EVERYONE KNOWS THAT
[QUOTE=thisispain;16618453]no no you don't read it i was fucking there and say you MEXICANS DON'T READ LEGAL DOCUMENTS EVERYONE KNOWS THAT[/QUOTE] FCUk
[QUOTE=phill977;16618374]Yea, cause everyone reads the agreement stuff when they install stuff or do anything. [I]Next, next, I accept, next, wait for install, finish.[/I] I'm pretty sure that's what everyone does. The same goes with anything else.[/QUOTE] That's a great defense. "The EULA specifically states that there will be consequences and that this is a crime." "Pff I'm sorry your honour but who the fucks reads that shit."
[QUOTE=thisispain;16618466]That's a great defense. "The EULA specifically states that there will be consequences and that this is a crime." "Pff I'm sorry your honour but who the fucks reads that shit."[/QUOTE] "I'm sorry, you're free to go. Not guilty."
[QUOTE=Lankist;16618387]Uhh, no, some of us read legal documentation that can send us to prison before we agree to legal documentation that can send us to prison.[/QUOTE] Yes, i know some people read them. It's just a general fact that alot of people just accept everything without reading. I sometimes read the terms and conditions, whenever i'm bored and have plenty of time to waste.
[QUOTE=thisispain;16618466]That's a great defense. "The EULA specifically states that there will be consequences and that this is a crime." "Pff I'm sorry your honour but who the fucks reads that shit."[/QUOTE] Sir the prosecution would like to express concern with this irresponsible sentiment! OVERRULED! Six months for disrupting court proceedings. The Plaintiff is hereby relieved of all the charges against him, court adjourned!
jeeze what a bitch EXCUSE ME i'm going to jail for six months, i don't give a fuck, fuck you
[QUOTE=Lankist;16618264]Why don't people ever read the EULA?[/QUOTE] This. It's pretty explicit when you read on about a console when it says not to modify it.
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