• Malaysia man charged with rape escapes jail by marrying 14-year old victim
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[quote]A Malaysian man charged with raping a 14-year-old girl has avoided prison after marrying his victim, sparking anger from rights groups and calls for bans on child marriage. Ahmad Syukri Yusuf, 22, faced 30 years in prison and being whipped after he was charged with statutory rape of the girl. But he has avoided the sentence after marrying the teenager under Islamic law. Prosecutor Ahmad Fariz Abdul Hamid said a court in Kuching, in Malaysia’s eastern state of Sarawak, ruled the case need no longer continue after a marriage certificate was produced and the girl withdrew the complaint, Reuters reports. Under Malaysia’s civil laws, the minimum age for marriage is 18, but under Sharia law, Islamic courts can grant permission to Muslims under 16, allowing them to marry as children. The ruling has prompted outrage from women’s rights groups. Speaking to Reuters, Kuala Lumpur-based Women's Aid Organization spokeswoman Tan Heang Lee said: “It is very common for rapists to marry their survivors, especially when they are underage, to cover up their crime,“ “There is usually a high risk in this kind of cases that these girls will be subject to a lifetime of sexual abuse. Her marriage is basically an extension to rape,” she added.[/quote] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/malaysian-man-ahmad-syukri-yusuf-rape-charge-escapes-jail-marrying-14-year-old-victim-a7171276.html[/url] [url]http://time.com/4438342/malaysia-rape-marry-victim/[/url]
Why is Sharia law even allowed to be used again? It clashes with and destroys tons of moral concepts the civilized world uses.
Gotta love Islamic law. [QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50830551]Why is Sharia law even allowed to be used again? It clashes with and destroys tons of moral concepts the civilized world uses.[/QUOTE] Malaysia isn't part of the civilized world, clearly.
[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50830551]Why is Sharia law even allowed to be used again? It clashes with and destroys tons of moral concepts the civilized world uses.[/QUOTE] Mecca was technically a civilized society in 600CE, as in it had civilization. Being civilized doesn't necessarily mean having a secular, individualist society. They are not backwards or forward in time, they just are.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50830577]Mecca was technically a civilized society in 600CE, as in it had civilization. Being civilized doesn't necessarily mean having a secular, individualist society. They are not backwards or forward in time, they just are.[/QUOTE] They're just stuck with a mentality that allows rapists to escape jail by marrying the victims And rape victims being stoned for seducing men into raping
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50830577]Mecca was technically a civilized society in 600CE, as in it had civilization. Being civilized doesn't necessarily mean having a secular, individualist society. They are not backwards or forward in time, they just are.[/QUOTE] Well, when I say civilized world I mean places like the U.S./Canada/Europe and organizations like the U.N.
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;50830587]They're just stuck with a mentality that allows rapists to escape jail by marrying the victims And rape victims being stoned for seducing men into raping[/QUOTE] It's a shitty mentality but what do you expect from an islander nation with poor rule of law and limited exposure to 'western' values. It's like Brunei lite.
I dont think this shit would ever pass if it happened in our more developed states like Kuala Lumpur.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50830604]It's a shitty mentality but what do you expect from an islander nation with poor rule of law and limited exposure to 'western' values. It's like Brunei lite.[/QUOTE] Actually, Saudi Arabia's an insanely rich country at the heart of the Middle East with basically no rule of law and plenty of exposure to "Western" values. It's shitty because it's dominated by a theocracy, and no matter what religion takes the stage, that's exactly how it's going to be.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50830577]Mecca was technically a civilized society in 600CE, as in it had civilization. Being civilized doesn't necessarily mean having a secular, individualist society. They are not backwards or forward in time, they just are.[/QUOTE] You're taking that too literally. You know exactly what he meant
wait so the girl got raped and then she consented to marrying? wtf [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50830590]Well, when I say civilized world I mean places like the U.S./Canada/Europe and organizations like the U.N.[/QUOTE] so is brazil not civilized, all of Asia and Africa arent? [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50830551]Why is Sharia law even allowed to be used again? It clashes with and destroys tons of moral concepts the civilized world uses.[/QUOTE] surprisingly, countries have their own laws.
[QUOTE=Maadz;50832731]wait so the girl got raped and then she consented to marrying? wtf [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] so is brazil not civilized, all of Asia and Africa arent?[/QUOTE] Yes, she """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""consented""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
[QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;50832741]Yes, she """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""consented""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""[/QUOTE] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im dumb
[QUOTE=archangel125;50831922]Actually, Saudi Arabia's a landlocked, insanely rich country with basically no rule of law and plenty of exposure to "Western" values. It's shitty because it's dominated by a theocracy, and no matter what religion takes the stage, that's exactly how it's going to be.[/QUOTE] Saudi Arabia isn't landlocked.
This is despicable. What kind of justice is this? But yeah but we are the ones with rape culture...
[QUOTE=archangel125;50831922]Actually, Saudi Arabia's a landlocked, insanely rich country with basically no rule of law and plenty of exposure to "Western" values. It's shitty because it's dominated by a theocracy, and no matter what religion takes the stage, that's exactly how it's going to be.[/QUOTE] Take a look at a world map real quick
Islamic Law is a bunch of bullshit.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;50833345]i love everything about this great country and our culture [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] almost as much as i love watching 5 million local television cookie cutter dramas, most of which just so happens to be centering on abusive/actual rape scenarios between a man and a woman whereby the woman eventually succumbs to the charming quirks of her captor/abuser and marrying him and the series gets its happy ending[/QUOTE] That's fucking crazy. Are any of them on youtube or is there anyway to see this? (with translation preferably)
[QUOTE=Maadz;50832731]wait so the girl got raped and then she consented to marrying? wtf [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] so is brazil not civilized, all of Asia and Africa arent? [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] surprisingly, countries have their own laws.[/QUOTE] You know what I mean, come on dude. When I say "countries like the u.S./Canada/Europe", I mean those countries and other places [b]like[/b] them, Brazil, Africa, and Asia.
That's just feral.
A lifetime of sexual abuse after being raped, how fucking deplorable
[QUOTE=Maadz;50832731]wait so the girl got raped and then she consented to marrying? wtf [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;50832741]Yes, she """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""consented""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""[/QUOTE] Maybe the guy and girl probably had consented sex (or like each other). Since she is a minor, he was charged with statutory rape. Perhaps the title should be changed to "charged with statutory rape" to better reflect this. [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=SebiWarrior;50830587] And rape victims being stoned for seducing men into raping[/QUOTE] I admit I don't actually know much about the rural areas of Msia but I doubt this is a thing over there. Or is it?
[QUOTE=Swamplord;50833915]Maybe the guy and girl probably had consented sex (or like each other). Since she is a minor, he was charged with statutory rape. Perhaps the title should be changed to "charged with statutory rape" to better reflect this. [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] I admit I don't actually know much about the rural areas of Msia but I doubt this is a thing over there. Or is it?[/QUOTE] He was charged with statutory but I really have doubts about the girl's consent here when she went to the police and told them he raped her
[QUOTE=Swamplord;50833915]Maybe the guy and girl probably had consented sex (or like each other). Since she is a minor, he was charged with statutory rape. Perhaps the title should be changed to "charged with statutory rape" to better reflect this. [/QUOTE] I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but the fact that this guy is willing to force a child into marriage in order to escape rape charges tells me that he's the special kind of shitlord that wouldn't wait for consent
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;50832919]Take a look at a world map real quick[/QUOTE] Dude, I lived there. Did I just use the wrong term or something? It's part of the Arabian peninsula which is connected to the mainland, so I thought that qualified it. [editline]abc[/editline] Guess I did. Let me change that.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;50833345]i love everything about this great country and our culture [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] almost as much as i love watching 5 million local television cookie cutter dramas, most of which just so happens to be centering on abusive/actual rape scenarios between a man and a woman whereby the woman eventually succumbs to the charming quirks of her captor/abuser and marrying him and the series gets its happy ending[/QUOTE] That sounds absolutely surreal. Is rape just a normal way of life over there?
[QUOTE=archangel125;50834269]Dude, I lived there. Did I just use the wrong term or something? It's part of the Arabian peninsula which is connected to the mainland, so I thought that qualified it. [editline]abc[/editline] Guess I did. Let me change that.[/QUOTE] Landlocked means it has no land connecting to a sea/ocean, Saudi Arabia borders both the Red Sea and Persian Gulf which are both connected to the Indian Ocean.
[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50830551]Why is Sharia law even allowed to be used again? It clashes with and destroys tons of moral concepts the civilized world uses.[/QUOTE] I'd be 100% fine with the harshest interpretation of Sharia if two, impossible conditions are met: 1) As long as anyone can freely move in and out of any country that they like, or don't like anymore. (Assuming you are not a felon or something, serving a sentence in that particular country.) and 2) As long as nobody felt the need to physically assault others for leading vastly different lifestyles.
[QUOTE=AltF4 All Day;50834074]I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but the fact that this guy is willing to force a child into marriage in order to escape rape charges tells me that he's the special kind of shitlord that wouldn't wait for consent[/QUOTE] Probably manipulated her into having sex as well
[QUOTE=Butthurter;50835768]stop, you really have no idea what youre talking about[/QUOTE] Not to mention under the harshest interpretation of Sharia law, half of the population would have no right to move freely without consent.
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