NHS prescriptions of ADHD drugs jump 50% in six years
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[B]There has been a 50% rise in England in the use of drugs for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder in six years.
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NHS prescriptions for methylphenidate drugs, including Ritalin, rose from 420,000 in 2007 to 657,000 last year, the Care Quality Commission said.
[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23674235[/URL]
Is it any surprise? Both awareness of ADHD and pressure to succeed in school has increased dramatically over the years.
Hurray for over diagnosis and fucking up young people's brains.
Concerta(slow release Ritalin) helped me quite a bit in school, eventually I was taken off of it due to building up a tolerance to it unusually fast, requiring dosage increases every other month.
To be honest, if there wasn't such a value on homework and paying attention in class, I wouldn't have needed it, as I knew the info and was able to test well causing me to not care about homework. Since in college they bombard you with so much info, attention problems haven't been an issue, as I am consistently active with something.
"It's not that kids are having trouble paying attention, but when you have young children sit there for 5 hours doing clerical work they're going to want to move around."
Giving a child a pill with all kinds of psychological side effects is much easier than PROPER PARENTING.
Ugh.
Hello NHS please give my hyperactive kid some pills because I can't be bothered raising him right.
wow 420,000 is already too much, these numbers should really be in the low thousands, what's going on? It shouldn't be as common as this
I just prefer a healthy diet fish oils, both work better than prescription drugs.
Your child has been diagnosed with lack of motivation in class ... er, i mean "Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder"
[QUOTE=Antlerp;41826783]wow 420,000 is already too much, these numbers should really be in the low thousands, what's going on? It shouldn't be as common as this[/QUOTE]
It is in large part due to a poor diet that contains man-made additives used for artificial coloring and/or preserving. There are so many people with ADHD now because of processed, sugary and chemical filled food.
[QUOTE=Vasili;41826833]It is in large part due to a poor diet that contains man-made additives used for artificial coloring and/or preserving. There are so many people with ADHD now because of processed, sugary and chemical filled food.[/QUOTE]
yeah you're right, millions of people including kids do just tend to eat shit
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;41826777]Giving a child a pill with all kinds of psychological side effects is much easier than PROPER PARENTING.
Ugh.
Hello NHS please give my hyperactive kid some pills because I can't be bothered raising him right.[/QUOTE]
Some people need those pills to be able to stay calm and not be hyperactive. I was completely unable to pay total attention to class due to lack of consistent activity causing additional tracks in my brain to start moving.
It is literally, if something does not move at an acceptable pace to you, it becomes increasingly difficult to prevent self derailment.
I didn't need 10 minutes to do the "warm up" problems in math. I needed 2, what do I do the last 8 minutes? That is where the problem lies.
[QUOTE=deadoon;41826875]Some people need those pills to be able to stay calm and not be hyperactive. I was completely unable to pay total attention to class due to lack of consistent activity causing additional tracks in my brain to start moving.
It is literally, if something does not move at an acceptable pace to you, it becomes increasingly difficult to prevent self derailment.
I didn't need 10 minutes to do the "warm up" problems in math. I needed 2, what do I do the last 8 minutes? That is where the problem lies.[/QUOTE]
Is it not the same with other people though? Seriously, if I get given a Math problem and I solve it in 2 minutes, I'll be twiddling my thumbs for the remaining 8, but isn't that life and part of the whole tedium of school? I just learnt over the years that "Oh well, this is the way it is" and I just deal with it.
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;41826777]Giving a child a pill with all kinds of psychological side effects is much easier than PROPER PARENTING.
Ugh.
Hello NHS please give my hyperactive kid some pills because I can't be bothered raising him right.[/QUOTE]
i can't agree more - they need an additional slap on their wrists, not some shitty meds.
[QUOTE=DrogenViech;41827541]i can't agree more - they need an additional slap on their wrists, not some shitty meds.[/QUOTE]
they need neither
[QUOTE=loopoo;41827486]Is it not the same with other people though? Seriously, if I get given a Math problem and I solve it in 2 minutes, I'll be twiddling my thumbs for the remaining 8, but isn't that life and part of the whole tedium of school? I just learnt over the years that "Oh well, this is the way it is" and I just deal with it.[/QUOTE]
For someone with adhd, they get distracted by other things that are around them, I would doodle on my paper, and the teacher would get annoyed at it for not paying attention, if I read they think I am not doing or refusing to do my work, if I sit there doing nothing, it taxes my mind greatly until I get distracted into doing something else and get called out by the teacher for it. Sitting still and doing nothing notable is among my greatest challenges, I recently have been able to get around it by daydreaming and such but the best I can achieve without changing external stimuli, is around 20 minutes. Driving in a car or bus I have no issue due to this though and do not get bored because looking out the window is enough to keep me occupied for up to 6 hours or so.
[QUOTE=DrogenViech;41827541]i can't agree more - they need an additional slap on their wrists, not some shitty meds.[/QUOTE]
So punish someone who can't help it due to they are "not normal"?
If someone absorbs the info and understands it within the bounds that they are meant to understand at that level, there should be no punishment, if they cannot pay attention enough to keep up with the rest of the class without meds, they really need the meds.
If the school punishes them, despite the work being understood because they get distracted easily it can be detrimental to their development or overall learning process as if they are removed from class they may not learn the material properly.
[QUOTE=DrogenViech;41827541]i can't agree more - they need an additional slap on their wrists, not some shitty meds.[/QUOTE]
Actually psychologists do recommend you use normal parenting for ADHD kids, it just requires more effort and patience. Hitting your children is a no-no though.
[QUOTE=deadoon;41826730]Concerta(slow release Ritalin) helped me quite a bit in school, eventually I was taken off of it due to building up a tolerance to it unusually fast, requiring dosage increases every other month.
To be honest, if there wasn't such a value on homework and paying attention in class, I wouldn't have needed it, as I knew the info and was able to test well causing me to not care about homework. Since in college they bombard you with so much info, attention problems haven't been an issue, as I am consistently active with something.[/QUOTE]
i was prescribed with concerta and it literally did fuck all for me, overprescription is a serious problem. it only made me increasingly angry with people in general, so i stopped taking it a few years back.
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[QUOTE=DrogenViech;41827541]i can't agree more - they need an additional slap on their wrists, not some shitty meds.[/QUOTE]
you need an additional slap on the face
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;41826777]Giving a child a pill with all kinds of psychological side effects is much easier than PROPER PARENTING.
Ugh.
Hello NHS please give my hyperactive kid some pills because I can't be bothered raising him right.[/QUOTE]
My older brother has ADHD, is literally one of the smartest people I know and yet has always struggled in school because of his condition. And you're saying my parents "couldn't be bothered raising him right"? That's why they put countless hours into doctor/counselor appointments, helping him with his work and talking to teachers to arrange special tests for him, all while raising my sister and I as well?
Fuck you.
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that shit is no good, not to mention ADD is pretty bullshit to begin with. am i the only one who is disturbed by schools bullying parents into their children being falsely diagnosed and drugged while their brains are [B]still developing[/B]? any sane person would realize how unethical this is.
My brother has ADHD, he's always had anger problems as well so he'd actually feel angrier on the pills than off them, so he stopped taking them and was actually failing school a lot harder than previously - plus the tutor they assigned to him was complete horse shit and he could still hardly read properly by the time he was 15. He's 22 now and still often asks me how to spell certain words.
I think instead of drugging the kids up, they should actually consider finding ways of teaching kids with ADHD properly. Everyone who had ADHD in highschool ended up just selling their pills anyway.
I wonder how many of those Ritalin pills are being taken for the high instead, probably a lot. I really don't believe ADHD is THAT common, that's a load of bullshit. People just diagnose kids with ADHD because it's easier than figuring out what the actual problem is.
Wow does everyone in this thread believe that doctors are just like
yeah no I don't know what this is let's say it's adhd that always works ok everyone go home take your pills
[QUOTE=blehblehbleh;41828571]My older brother has ADHD, is literally one of the smartest people I know and yet has always struggled in school because of his condition. And you're saying my parents "couldn't be bothered raising him right"? That's why they put countless hours into doctor/counselor appointments, helping him with his work and talking to teachers to arrange special tests for him, all while raising my sister and I as well?
Fuck you.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking general case here.
Fuck you too.
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Methylphenidate can be a miracle worker if you have ADHD, I'm completely unable to focus in school without it
[QUOTE=Vasili;41826833]There are so many people with ADHD now because of processed, sugary and chemical filled food.[/QUOTE]
Is this science or conjecture
Because science usually has some words that are blue that take you to a special page with lots of facts when you click them
The only reason I even passed my last year of school was going on Ritalin to manage my ADD.
My mum tried everything else in the book to help me overcome it. Fish pills, 1v1 teaching (the school didn't give a fuck about this), extended parenting from my mum to help with my homework. I even started listening to music in class because it stopped my brain from shooting out thoughts every half second and distracting me and gave me enough time to focus on my work, but only one teacher let me do that (social studies).
My mum really didn't want me to go on Ritalin because she knew all of the bad side effects, but I didn't want to fail my last year of school even when I was trying so goddamn hard to pay attention and get shit done. And I didn't want my mums efforts to be for nothing after sending me to school and trying so hard on a single mothers budget.
The only bad thing is that the medication exasperated my depression and I built up a resistance to it really quickly. But I fucking aced maths and english, and passed my final year. And in the long run I'm glad for it.
Guys, let's be honest, it's obviously a plot by the reptilians of the illuminati satanic monsanto GMO hybrids to mind control for the HAARP with the elite jews and antichrist scientists to hide the existence of Atlantis on Nibiru populated with shapeshifters and lady gaga's army of backup monarch programming clones.
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;41829072]I'm talking general case here.
Fuck you too.[/QUOTE]
No, "fuck you" as in "fuck you for making a sweeping statement demonizing the parents of children with ADHD and branding them all as lazy". You called out every parent of a child diagonosed with ADHD with that post, I have every right to be pissed off at you. When you make generalizing statements you should -at the very least be prepared to stand behind them.
Every time I take adderall I feel like absolute shit, mentally, and physically the day after. That's just taking that stuff for one day, I couldn't imagine taking it for years and trying to come off it.
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