[url]http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19816-info-pirates-seek-an-alternative-internet.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news[/url]
[QUOTE]File-sharers believe that ICANN, which controls the internet's domain name system (DNS), takes down web domains at the whim of politicians and industry bosses, if they are considered to infringe the law. The DNS is effectively a phone book for the net, a look-up table which converts a website's URL into a machine-readable IP address that locates the relevant server and brings users their requested page. The DNS comprises 13 large registry computers, called root servers, dotted around the world. Each holds an identical copy of the internet's master look-up table. If a domain is deemed illegal, ICANN can render it useless by simply steering traffic away from it.
Sunde has lost at least one domain this way, seeing it taken over by music trade body the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry and, with others, faces a huge fine and prison for running The Pirate Bay. The wikileaks.org domain name was lost last week when the provider, EveryDNS, terminated it.
So activists, led by Sunde, hope to construct an alternative registry: one that will initially work like existing systems, but which in the long run will become a decentralised, peer-to-peer (P2P) system in which volunteers each run a portion of a DNS on their own computers. By breaking up the internet phone book and hosting it in pieces, they will strip ICANN of its power. Any domain it tries to take away will still be accessible on the alternative registry.[/QUOTE]
Sounds good, the internet should be a impartial global thing, not subject to the whims of a government
Shady stuff
Im up for it.
I don't know about you guys, but something called the "shadow internet" sounds pretty awesome no matter what it does.
Beautiful!
[quote]International Federation of the Phonographic Industry[/quote]
I want to work there. :smug:
[QUOTE=faze;26527943]I want to work there. :smug:[/QUOTE]
Phonographic not Pornographic
[QUOTE=bigdoggie;26528023]Phonographic not Pornographic[/QUOTE]
I know, you get what I meant.
Uh, this is just the p2p dns that another article in this section talked about. Calling it "shadow" internet is really unnecessary.
[QUOTE=noctune9;26528059]Uh, this is just the p2p dns that another article in this section talked about. Calling it "shadow" internet is really unnecessary.[/QUOTE]
It's a cool name, hush.
Sounds as awesome as the Shadow Government. :v:
It's an alternative root DNS server system.
Not as exciting when you learn the truth, huh?
And the traffic still goes through the regular Internet, this is just domain name resolution.
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. I hope it doesn't mean websites that use it will go dead like a dead torrent.
And I though [Url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Web]Deep Web[/Url] was obscure...
Looking forward for this, this can be really interesting
Sounds a lot like the Shadow Broker from Mass Effect 2
It may be because I played Megaman Battle Network, but I prefer the name "Undernet".
Grabs a bag of popcorn for later.
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;26528231]Sounds a lot like the Shadow Broker from Mass Effect 2[/QUOTE]
AS long as its not in the shape of a freaky looking alien we're all good. How will they protect against bad things though like bad hackers and scam artists?
This is going to be awesome.
[QUOTE=brennahan;26527918]I don't know about you guys, but something called the "shadow internet" sounds pretty awesome no matter what it does.[/QUOTE]
In Britain we have the "Shadow Cabinet"
it sounds fucking badass until you realise it's basically just the opposing party complaining about things
putting "shadow" in front of anything makes it sound cooler
I like this.
Lot of talking about it, not much happening.
This probably means that you can host your own website using your own domain name for free without paying to register with a root server. The only downside is organization and duplicate checking.
[QUOTE=DarkSpider;26528112]I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. I hope it doesn't mean websites that use it will go dead like a dead torrent.[/QUOTE]
It's not the sites themselves being hosted on a peer-to-peer architecture, but the domain name register. The details are still being worked on, but I'd take a guess and say the intention is to have everyone use the same tracker and then pass any updates around (so everyone "seeds" the same "torrent" forever, though it may get updated over time with new information).
I do hope however that the system won't be purely p2p. If each and every peer can not only hold the DNS records but also edit them, the system could be easy to disrupt since malicious/phony entries might propagate through the network faster unless there is some (semi-)centralized authentication system for verifying. The traditional DNS system architecture of tiered register servers has proven resilient against attacks, at first glance I'm not sure this will be as good. Maybe someone who's read more books about networking than I can explain it better?
Lots of interesting developments lately.
The "Shadow internet" sounds shit.
Should be called the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet_(file_sharing)]Darknet[/url] or something equally as badass.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;26528422]It's not the sites themselves being hosted on a peer-to-peer architecture, but the domain name register. The details are still being worked on, but I'd take a guess and say the intention is to have everyone use the same tracker and then pass any updates around (so everyone "seeds" the same "torrent" forever, though it may get updated over time with new information).
I do hope however that the system won't be purely p2p. If each and every peer can not only hold the DNS records but also edit them, the system could be easy to disrupt since malicious/phony entries might propagate through the network faster unless there is some (semi-)centralized authentication system for verifying. The traditional DNS system architecture of tiered register servers has proven resilient against attacks, at first glance I'm not sure this will be as good. Maybe someone who's read more books about networking than I can explain it better?[/QUOTE]
Could be done with something as simple as a MD5 hash.
Expecting evil opposite universe internet :colbert:
They totally should make it, what if it rolls on and defines the future of internet?
[QUOTE=bigdoggie;26528023]Phonographic not Pornographic[/QUOTE]
I heard you have to do a lot of 8-track before you can do digital.
[QUOTE=Baldr;26528568]Could be done with something as simple as a MD5 hash.[/QUOTE]
Right, but a managed authentication system brings us back to the initial problem of having a centralized organization for managing the integrity of DNS. If we're not gonna let everyone within the system participate in the DNS updating (in which case it won't be truly P2P) we need certain people in charge of who can, people who are subject to the whims of the laws of their country of residence, etcetera. Might have gotten this backwards, but I thought the beauty of P2P DNS was to have a more or less autonomous/self-maintaining DNS system outside the control of any single group or organization, making the system not only untouchable by ICANN but immortal as long as the Internet exists.
I suppose a group of anonymous enthusiasts cooperating could work though.
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