As you can guess, I have played L.A. Noire and I'm looking for a good old Noire movie. But I don't know of any. Can you guys help?
Road to Perdition.
Well it is at parts.
The Third Man, The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep, Chinatown, L.A. Confidential
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Double Indemnity
I could see this happening. Hundreds of people playing LA Noire and wanting to watch Noir films
All the better I say, the more the merrier - but don't be misled by L.A. Noire. It's a great game and a lot of other things, but it's not [I]that[/I] noir. Noir more concerns how the detective gets very personally involved in his cases and bites off more than he can chew, gets involved with a girl, etc. I couldn't attach to the protagonist of LA Noire at all because we know nothing about him, at least until the end. And too much of it was set in the daytime! It reminded me more of 70s cop movies like Dirty Harry and the French Connection than classic noir like Farewell My Lovely and The Big Sleep. Too many car chases and shootouts (not that that's a bad thing ;)
Shutter Island or Sin City?
Those are neo-noir...at a push. Film noir refers to the original wave of 30s/40s movies. Usually starring people like Robert Mitchum, Humphrey Bogart, and the like.
I don't think LA Noire's action scenes were what detracted from it's noire quality. I feel like Max Payne was a lot more noire than LA Noire (despite max payne being set in modern times) and it had a hell of a lot more action
Mulholland Falls
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Also Blade Runner is actually a noir film despite being set in the future
[QUOTE=Rusty100;30178073]I don't think LA Noire's action scenes were what detracted from it's noire quality. I feel like Max Payne was a lot more noire than LA Noire (despite max payne being set in modern times) and it had a hell of a lot more action[/QUOTE]
Very true. Maybe it's just the voiceover.
god max payne had the best fucking atmosphere
Dark City is a good example.
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[QUOTE=Publius;30178035]Those are neo-noir...at a push. Film noir refers to the original wave of 30s/40s movies. Usually starring people like Robert Mitchum, Humphrey Bogart, and the like.[/QUOTE]
In that case "Touch of Evil"
Blood Simple is great
btw there is no 'e' in noir.
[QUOTE=Publius;30179480]btw there is no 'e' in noir.[/QUOTE]
Can be both, French are like that.
i really dont care, im gonna spell it the way my country spells it
when referring to film noir, there's never an E. Google 'film noire' - there will not be a single result in the first ten pages or more that spells it with an E.
But I am being a grammar nazi and do apologise.
Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, Sunset Blvd, and film adaptations of Raymond Chandler's books.
Brick.
Amazing film.
Here's a useful link for you all.
[url]http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=%28collection%3AFilm_Noir%20OR%20mediatype%3AFilm_Noir%29%20AND%20-mediatype%3Acollection&sort=-avg_rating%3B-num_reviews[/url]
These are all classic film noir films which are public domain and available to stream for free. Quality on most of them is pretty good - well worth a look, particularly Detour, The Stranger and Quicksand.
L.A. Confidential is by far the most similar to L.A. Noire but it's also a bad film.
If you're looking for some fantastic earlier films that reflect the same styles, watch Double Indemnity, The Third Man, and The Big Sleep. Although the best film noir of all time is almost definitely Sunset Boulevard (it's not really about crime though).
Did you know there are a few noir films set in Japan? Akira Kurosawa made films like [I]Stray Dog[/I] and [I]Drunken Angel[/I] but Sydney Pollack made an American/Japanese one called [I]The Yakuza[/I]
[img]http://www.impawards.com/1975/posters/yakuza_ver2.jpg[/img]
It starts 'soul of film noir' Robert Mitchum and was written by Paul Schrader and Robert Towne.
What's interesting about this is that it forms a loose trilogy of noir in the mid 70s.
1974 - [B]Chinatown[/B] - written by [B]Robert Towne[/B]
1975 - [B]Yakuza[/B] - written by [B]Robert Towne and Paul Schrader[/B]
1976 - [B]Taxi Driver[/B] - written by [B]Paul Schrader[/B].
[B]Chinatown[/B] is classic noir style, [B]Yakuza[/B] is East meets West noir (or as I like to call it...niho-noir! get it?) and [B]Taxi Driver[/B] is neo-noir.
I highly recommend Yakuza. What's more badass than Robert Mitchum with a katana in one hand and a sawn off shotgun in the other?
Double Indemnity, with Fred McMurray and Barbara Stanwyck is sort of the defining noir movie in my opinion. I'd go with that for 'old' noir.
Chinatown is my favorite of newer noir films, although Blood Simple by the Coen brothers is pretty cool. Also, John Dahl started his directing career with three very good neo-noir movies- Kill Me Again, Red Rock West, and The Last Seduction.
Almost every Humphrey Bogart movie.
I would also recommend some french noir ala Rififi, Bob le Flambeur, La cercle rouge.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;30178665]god max payne had the best fucking atmosphere[/QUOTE]
"Stupid vending machine!"
"Ha ha, careful, it might kick back! Dee dee dee dee dee, killer vending machine!"
"You talkin' to me?"
"Tough guy! Scared!"
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;30187825]"Stupid vending machine!"
"Ha ha, careful, it might kick back! Dee dee dee dee dee, killer vending machine!"
"You talkin' to me?"
"Tough guy! Scared!"[/QUOTE]
DICK JUSTICE!
[QUOTE=Publius;30186741]Did you know there are a few noir films set in Japan? Akira Kurosawa made films like [I]Stray Dog[/I] and [I]Drunken Angel[/I] but Sydney Pollack made an American/Japanese one called [I]The Yakuza[/I]
[img]http://www.impawards.com/1975/posters/yakuza_ver2.jpg[/img]
It starts 'soul of film noir' Robert Mitchum and was written by Paul Schrader and Robert Towne.
What's interesting about this is that it forms a loose trilogy of noir in the mid 70s.
1974 - [B]Chinatown[/B] - written by [B]Robert Towne[/B]
1975 - [B]Yakuza[/B] - written by [B]Robert Towne and Paul Schrader[/B]
1976 - [B]Taxi Driver[/B] - written by [B]Paul Schrader[/B].
[B]Chinatown[/B] is classic noir style, [B]Yakuza[/B] is East meets West noir (or as I like to call it...niho-noir! get it?) and [B]Taxi Driver[/B] is neo-noir.
I highly recommend Yakuza. What's more badass than Robert Mitchum with a katana in one hand and a sawn off shotgun in the other?[/QUOTE]
Chinatown was IMO one of Polanski's best films.
Chinatown is certainly one of his best, yes.
Noir has been 'typecast' as a detective genre (if you can even call it a genre), however only half (if that) are detective stories. Any melodramatic crime drama with a somewhat pessimistic atmosphere and harsh/low-key lighting could be called a noir. Just wanted to put that out there. Here are some gems:
[b]Classic Noir:[/b]
- The Big Sleep
- The Maltese Falcon
- Double Indemnity
- Out of the Past
- Kiss Me Deadly
Akira Kurosawa's:
- Drunken Angel
- Stray Dog
[b]Neo-noir[/b] (post 1970, fused noir tropes with modern elements):
- Chinatown (watch this first if you haven't, it's one of the best) (also, it's only neo-noir in that it was made in the 70s. It's very similar in style to classic noirs.)
- Taxi Driver
- Raging Bull
- Blade Runner
- Fargo
- Sin City
Containing some elements of noir:
- Pulp Fiction
- Fight Club
Chinatown wasn't [I]overly[/I] noir, it was superb...but I think the flow, acting and the plot unfolding made it extravagent.
It's a good example of style, but I'm not a hundred percent about the [I]noir[/I] experience.
[QUOTE=AK'z;30239162]Chinatown wasn't [I]overly[/I] noir, it was superb...but I think the flow, acting and the plot unfolding made it extravagent.
It's a good example of style, but I'm not a hundred percent about the [I]noir[/I] experience.[/QUOTE]
Not overly noir? Chinatown is noir in every sense of the word. Here's a checklist: Crime drama, private detective, multi-layered plot, corruption is a central theme, short-lived romance/femme fatale, jazz soundtrack, flawed protagonist, mild melodrama, low-key lighting.
Is there even a feature of noir it didn't contain?
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