• Denmark ejects foreign student for doing too much part-time work - Marius Youbi, described as ‘the b
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[b]Denmark ejects foreign student for doing too much part-time work[/b] Via [url=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/08/marius-youbi-foreign-student-forced-to-leave-denmark-exceeding-part-time-work-limit]The Guardian[/url] ____________________ [quote][img]http://i.imgur.com/fAUrO9s.jpg[/img] [i]Marius Youbi, who studied in Aarhus, worked 90 minutes over the 15-hour limit for part-time jobs for overseas students in some weeks[/i] - - - Denmark has expelled a top foreign undergraduate because he worked for 90 minutes more than the 15 hours a week the law allows overseas students to spend doing a part-time job. Marius Youbi, 30, an electrical engineering student described by Aarhus University as “the best we have”, flew home to Cameroon on Thursday morning after being told by the Danish agency for recruitment and integration in December that he must leave the country by 8 January. An investigation by the agency found that, in some weeks, he had spent 16-and-a-half hours on his cleaning job, one-and-a-half hours over the limit for foreign students. It rejected Youbi’s complaint that, averaged out over the year, his hours did not exceed the limit, and revoked his residency permit. “I am sorry and disappointed,” Youbi told public broadcaster DR. “All this work has gone to waste. Four-and-a-half years have gone up in smoke.” Preparing to board his flight at Billund airport, he added: “I have built something up in Denmark. It’s hard to say goodbye to so much.” Faced with the expulsion order, the university had earlier agreed to bring forward Youbi’s end-of-term exams. He sat three test papers on the same day, passing them all with top marks.[/quote] Are you fucking serious, Denmark? The guy was working his ass off to pay for his education and get a better life for himself, and you deport him -- probably to make room for more lazy-ass immigrant freeloaders? why?! :/
Oh im sorry, I dont know what came over me. Oh actually All of denmark did not make this decision.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49492843] probably to make room for more lazy-ass immigrant freeloaders? why?! :/[/QUOTE] Nice to see we can always sneak in some contextless garbage-media-tier assertion of little to no relevance
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;49492857]Oh im sorry, I dont know what came over me. Oh actually All of denmark did not make this decision.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.skrivunder.net/lad_marius_blive_i_danmark"]There's a petition going on[/URL], to overrule the deportation, posted in the article. [editline]9th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr.Critic;49492866]Nice to see we can always sneak in some contextless garbage-media-tier assertion of little to no relevance[/QUOTE] Because by the look of things, maybe he should have stated he was simply another immigrant, not someone who is *actually* working and studying to get a better life. It's unfair to give him the shaft like that, whereas immigrants living off of welfare and doing nothing are pampered.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49492869][URL="http://www.skrivunder.net/lad_marius_blive_i_danmark"]There's a petition going on[/URL], to bring him back. Found it on [URL="https://redd.it/405jrk"]the reddit thread[/URL] where I lifted this news article. [/QUOTE] I signed it, hopefully the injustice can be reversed.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49492843] Are you fucking serious, Denmark? The guy was working his ass off to pay for his education and get a better life for himself, and you deport him -- probably to make room for more lazy-ass immigrant freeloaders? why?! :/[/QUOTE] I agree it can seem ridiculous to deport him but if you just bend the laws to allow him to continue, where do you draw the line?
[QUOTE=ms333;49492889]I agree it can seem ridiculous to deport him but if you just bend the laws to allow him to continue, where do you draw the line?[/QUOTE] I can understand that student visas's laws and regulations are strongly enforced, and I think that's great... but maybe there's something else that can be done for him, instead of outright deporting him? I mean the guy has went above and beyond to prove himself as a normal, hard-working citizen and student, for heaven's sake.
[QUOTE=ms333;49492889]I agree it can seem ridiculous to deport him but if you just bend the laws to allow him to continue, where do you draw the line?[/QUOTE] yeah if you let in one hard working person soon you'll have to let them all in just imagine, thousands of hard working immigrants pouring across the border, getting education, contributing to society. it'd be utter pandemonium
[QUOTE=ms333;49492889]I agree it can seem ridiculous to deport him but if you just bend the laws to allow him to continue, where do you draw the line?[/QUOTE] Well, here in Denmark we have a lot of idiotic quota laws like this one, that we really need to break up. Laws where entitlements, pay and whatnot can be randomly deducted, withdrawn and changed for the worse because of utterly random circumstantial requirements. People being punished economically for having an income because their parents make above-minimum wage, making it more expensive for some people to live together, not being allowed to make more than x amount of money for whatever reason. Pretty stupid laws altogether.
Pretty much everyone I know this side of Sjælland have been up in arms about this, rightly so. No fucking way people like him can be rationally deported when there are freeloaders everywhere.
Government-people who don't protest this are idiots. I hate the people who rule Denmark.
Sure, throw away our most competent students over a law he just barely scraped. Don't give him a warning or a fine, fucking exile him from the country. God.
This is just so fucked up. Its like fucking opposite world. I hope the protests and petitions work, this clearly shows a problem with the system.
[QUOTE=can man;49493151]I hate the people who rule Denmark.[/QUOTE] The people? like, the actual citizens of Denmark? Including yourself?
You know, this thread has also made me wonder: How many people actually freeload off of welfare in Denmark? How many Citizens do it? How many Immigrants do it? What are the actual statistics regarding this?
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;49493275]The people? like, the actual citizens of Denmark? Including yourself?[/QUOTE] Obviously he means the people in charge
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;49492866]Nice to see we can always sneak in some contextless garbage-media-tier assertion of little to no relevance[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Because by the look of things, maybe he should have stated he was simply another immigrant, not someone who is *actually* working and studying to get a better life. It's unfair to give him the shaft like that, whereas immigrants living off of welfare and doing nothing are pampered.[/QUOTE] This really shows how little you know about the situation because denmark actually did the opposite of welcoming the immigrants. You're coming off as really biased without actually knowing anything about what's going on. Nobody is getting pampered and this has nothing to do with the immigrant crisis. It's a rule made by the school.
[QUOTE=Chrille;49493332]Obviously he means the people in charge[/QUOTE] Yes, those would be the citizens of Denmark.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49493307]You know, this thread has also made me wonder: How many people actually freeload off of welfare in Denmark? How many Citizens do it? How many Immigrants do it? What are the actual statistics regarding this?[/QUOTE] Not enough to paint the picture of it being a massive problem, people from other countries are making them sound like leeches. While that's not the case at all. It's a system made to guarantee more people the education of their choice with general well being included. Yes it is being misused but that doesn't detract from the overall positive effects it has in the long run. There's absolutely no reason to deport him, but this thought about immigrant "freeloaders" is just plain disgusting.
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;49493350]Yes, those would be the citizens of Denmark.[/QUOTE] Man you are really trying hard here
[QUOTE=Warborq;49493360]Not enough to paint the picture of it being a massive problem, people from other countries are making them sound like leeches. While that's not the case at all. It's a system made to guarantee more people the education of their choice with general well being included. Yes it is being misused but that doesn't detract from the overall positive effects it has in the long run. There's absolutely no reason to deport him, but this thought about immigrant "freeloaders" is just plain disgusting.[/QUOTE] Just as I thought. People don't seem to understand the fact that the vast majority of people probably don't want to be living solely on social welfare, because while having some money is nice, having more is a lot better. Besides, what the fuck else are you going to be doing with your time? In fact, I bet you that if European countries were to relinquish their stupid laws of "You have to wait x period of time before you can work", the majority of the recent refugees/immigrants/migrants/whatever-the-fuck-you-want to-call-them from the middle east would immediately try to find a job.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49492908]yeah if you let in one hard working person soon you'll have to let them all in just imagine, thousands of hard working immigrants pouring across the border, getting education, contributing to society. it'd be utter pandemonium[/QUOTE] Staging rape convoys like at that NYE party...
Europes system is warped. [B]They punish you for working hard and contributing to society. [/B] [QUOTE]Faced with the expulsion order, the university had earlier agreed to bring forward Youbi’s end-of-term exams. He sat three test papers on the same day, passing them all with top marks.[/QUOTE] Eject the brilliant people and have a debate (in Germany at least) over whether or not rapists should be deported. Its shameful.
While work hour limits are made to prevent you from working yourself to death, it doesn't really make sense to punish by deportation. And when you consider the wages of the job compared to cost of living sometimes you don't have a choice and need to work more hours or more jobs.
so Europe is letting morons and assholes in but someone of value is kicked out?
[QUOTE=Warborq;49493333]This really shows how little you know about the situation because denmark actually did the opposite of welcoming the immigrants. You're coming off as really biased without actually knowing anything about what's going on. Nobody is getting pampered and this has nothing to do with the immigrant crisis. It's a rule made by the school.[/QUOTE] I certainly don't, that's right. That's why other Danish FP'ers can chime in and comment on the matter. But judging (as an outsider from across the pond) by how Europe is handling their immigration policies - as in, throw a red carpet and put a "Welcome!" sign on the borders, I don't think it's fair to him, and to any hard-working immigrant out there who's trying to make a decent living for himself. He definitely earned the right to get more assistance, unlike some people rushing to the borders, ready to kick back and enjoy the sweet life in Glorious Europe, off of your tax money, squandering any and all opportunities of advancement offered in your country - which he certainly didn't do. That's my concern.
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;49493969]While work hour limits are made to prevent you from working yourself to death, it doesn't really make sense to punish by deportation. And when you consider the wages of the job compared to cost of living sometimes you don't have a choice and need to work more hours or more jobs.[/QUOTE] I can't say how it is in Denmark, but here in the UK work limits are primarily there to prevent people from gaining an international student visa and then using it to work instead.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49494119]I certainly don't, that's right. That's why other Danish FP'ers can chime in and comment on the matter. But judging (as an outsider from across the pond) by how Europe is handling their immigration policies - as in, throw a red carpet and put a "Welcome!" sign on the borders, I don't think it's fair to him, and to any hard-working immigrant out there who's trying to make a decent living for himself. He definitely earned the right to get more assistance, unlike some people rushing to the borders, ready to kick back and enjoy the sweet life in Glorious Europe, off of your tax money, squandering any and all opportunities of advancement offered in your country - which he certainly didn't do. That's my concern.[/QUOTE] Again, that's actually quite the opposite of what happend here. We didn't roll out the red carpet, we sent most of them to Sweden. You have to understand that a huge wave of people dominating the roads aren't exactly easy to maintain. There's alot of tension between Sweden and Denmark atm because we essentially put them on trains towards sweden. I mean, it's incredibly obvious you don't know jack shit about this. And honestly, why is this red carpet thing even seen as a bad thing? Like holy shit, these people are coming from some incredibly crummy places. This guy being deported is totally wrong, but this has nothing to do with the immigrants. The thought process of them just coming to mooch and kick back is actually really disgusting, what makes them different than anybody else. Of course they'd want to get jobs and integrate into society, they're human beings for crying out loud. And if you think integration is impossible, then you have no idea what Denmark is like.
It's ridiculous that he's being expelled, but rules are rules, and it's the law needs to change. The parliament didn't decide specifically that Marius should be expelled, they passed a law that Marius happened to break. The law should be changed to accommodate this in general. I'm sorry that this is happening to him, but it's not a personal vendetta against him by anybody.
[QUOTE] After the order to leave, the university agreed to move Youbi's exams forward, leaving him faced with three tests in one day, and [B]48 hours to prepare. [/B][B]All three exams resulted in a '12' grade, the Danish equivalent of an A.[/B] The 28-year-old has been in Denmark for eight years. [B]His wife, who has lived in the country for five years, and their three-year-old son, who was born in Denmark, have also been told to leave.[/B] Bhattarai was [B]told to leave Denmark just days after finishing his Master’s thesis[/B] in economics at the University of Southern Denmark, an education that he says has [B]cost him 400,000 kroner[/B]. His studies and investment risk being for naught as he is [B]now at risk of not being able to defend his thesis in February[/B] as planned. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.thelocal.dk/20160107/foreign-super-students-deported-from-denmark[/url] Good job!
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