[quote]FACEBOOK is building a new server farm on the edge of the Arctic Circle - its first outside the United States - to improve performance for European users, officials of the social networking site have confirmed.
But the chilly move will also expose them to potential eavesdropping from a Swedish intelligence agency, according to the country's Pirate Party, a group opposing government interference with the Internet.
Facebook confirmed it had reviewed potential locations across Europe and decided on the northern Swedish city of Lulea for the data centre partly because of the cold climate - crucial for keeping the servers cool - and access to renewable energy from nearby hydropower facilities.
The move reflects the growing international presence of the California-based site, which counts 800 million users worldwide.
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[i]An architect's drawing of Facebook's new server farm in Lulea, Sweden, which is on the edge of the Arctic Circle is Facebook's first outside the US. Picture: EPA][/i]
"Facebook has more users outside the US than inside," Facebook director of site operations Tom Furlong said. "It was time for us to expand in Europe."
He said European users would get better performance from having a node for data traffic closer to them.
Facebook currently stores data at sites in California, Virginia and Oregon and is building another facility in North Carolina.
The small Swedish Pirate Party, which is not represented in Parliament, warned that placing the servers in Lulea would also expose European users to eavesdropping from Sweden's National Defence Radio Establishment, also known by its Swedish initials FRA.
The agency can conduct surveillance on telephone conversations and data traffic to and from Sweden under legislation designed to fight cross-border terrorism and crime, which raised strong protests from privacy activists when it was passed in 2008.
Google's global privacy council Peter Fleischer called it "the most privacy-invasive legislation in Europe."
Jan Fredriksson, a spokesman for Facebook in Sweden, said the company was confident that restrictions on the agency's surveillance activities would protect the integrity of regular Facebook users.
"This isn't something that will affect users," Mr Frediksson said. "Only people who are strongly suspected of terrorism can become subjected to this."
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[i]Mr Furlong said Facebook had picked th because of the cold climate, which is crucial for keeping the servers cool, and the access to renewable energy from nearby hydropower facilities. Picture: EPA[/i]
Facebook is facing its own privacy concerns in Europe over how long it retains users' information and other issues.
"Facebook isn't famous for caring about its users integrity, so they didn't care about it in this case either," Pirate Party leader Anna Troberg said.
FRA spokeswoman Anni Boelenius said the agency only conducts surveillance against specific threats to Sweden, including cyber security, Swedish troops abroad and the military capabilities of foreign powers.
"The surveillance is aimed at these phenomena and not against specific services or means of communication," she said.
The Lulea data centre, which will consist of three 28,000-square metre server buildings, is scheduled for completion by 2014. The site will need 120 MW of energy, fully derived from hydropower.
Located 100 kilometers, south of the Arctic Cicle, Lulea lies near hydropower stations on a river that generates twice as much electricity as the Hoover Dam on the border of Nevada and Arizona, Facebook said.
In case of a blackout, construction designs call for each building to have 14 backup diesel generators with a total output of 40 MW.
Facebook didn't give the price of its investment, but Lulea officials have previously projected construction costs of up to 5 billion kronor ($760 million).
The Swedish government said it was ready to pitch in with 103 million kronor ($16 million).
"We knocked on doors at Facebook's head office (in Palo Alto, California) and today they're moving in to Lulea - this is huge, really huge," said Matz Engman, who heads the Lulea Business Agency, a public-private partnership working to attract businesses to the region.
With winter temperatures well below freezing and summertime highs that rarely climb above 25 degrees Celcius, Lulea has used its frigid climate as a selling point in its efforts to establish itself as a hub for server farms. Other Nordic cities have adopted similar strategies.
In 2009 Google purchased a paper mill in Hamina, southern Finland, and turned it into a data centre, using seawater from the Baltic Sea for its cooling system.
Servers inside data centers are the backbone of Internet services such as Facebook. The servers store and transmit billions of status updates, links, photos and all the outside apps used by Facebook's members.[/quote]
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I knew they were rich but still
Fuck cooling your servers, let the land do it for you!
Anyone else getting a serious Bond villain vibe off this?
Server farm?! Well those servers best be free range or PETT (People for Ethical Treatment of Technology) will do all sorts of silly things.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;33006341]Fuck cooling your servers, let the land do it for you![/QUOTE]
Russia should build datacenters in northern Siberia.
And (obviously) hook them up via fast fiber connections to the rest of the world.
What a waste of space
[QUOTE=Van-man;33006404]Russia should build datacenters in northern Siberia.
And (obviously) hook them up via fast fiber connections to the rest of the world.[/QUOTE]
Russia's internal connections are around 20gbit/s total. Without insane peering and improvement of their own infrastructure, they aren't a viable location for a datacentre.
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;33006447]Russia's internal connections are around 20gbit/s total. Without insane peering and improvement of their own infrastructure, they aren't a viable location for a datacentre.[/QUOTE]
I know that, hence the whole [I]fiber connections[/I] part.
It's a investment that could easily pay off big bucks if played right.
[QUOTE=Askaris;33006370]Anyone else getting a serious Bond villain vibe off this?[/QUOTE]
[I]"No, mr Bond, I expect [B]you[/B] to poke me."[/I]
[QUOTE=Shiftyze;33006445]What a waste of space[/QUOTE]
It's not like there's a small amount of it up there.
[QUOTE=Van-man;33006493]I know that, hence the whole [I]fiber connections[/I] part.
It's a investment that could easily pay off big bucks if played right.[/QUOTE]
It would need to be an insanely huge investment. Why? Russia is huge. Fibre connections deteriorate over distance. And it's not a matter of installing single fibres. You would need thousands. A decent datacentre needs 200gbit/s to 2TB/s of dedicated bandwidth.
Then you also have latency. Russia is far away from all transatlantic fibres. Americans would get insanely high latency to the Russian servers; unless another transatlantic fibre is placed to Russia.
As you can see, this is no longer a 'few million' project. I'd say a few billion.
How am I late? Thread already posted?
Build it in the permafrost, fuck freon.
[QUOTE=-n3o-;33006760]How am I late? Thread already posted?[/QUOTE]
Either it was already posted or they rated clocks because of server lag.
[B]Release those fucking servers![/B]
Servers don't like being cooped up in a farm being treated liker slaves!
Join PETS - People for the Ethical Treatment of Servers now!
Let those servers free roam and graze in the tundra, we say!
Server-Farmville
Pay 5 euro and you can grow a cloud network instantaneously!
[QUOTE=Askaris;33006370]Anyone else getting a serious Bond villain vibe off this?[/QUOTE]
Sweden are experts at Bond villain style data centres. I mean just look where [url=http://gizmodo.com/5626381/this-is-the-nuclear-bunker-where-wikileaks-will-be-located]wikileaks is hosted[/url].
I wonder whats the use of the loading/unloading bay.
Hah, "arctic".
Now I know what I can test-fire my secret super-nuke on!
What, you didn't know I was a Bond-villain?
[QUOTE=adam1172;33008039]I wonder whats the use of the loading/unloading bay.[/QUOTE]Moving equipment in and out, of course. Replacing malfunctioning server stacks, stocking up the snacks machine etc.
Soon a Call of Duty game where you have to infiltrate the guarded Facebook servers, then it ends with a snowmobile chase.
Lulea?
is that how you say it in english? :S
Prepare ze missiles!
We're building a server in the arctic.
FOR MILITARY DEFENSE RIGHT?
No.
SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH.
No.
FOR WHAT THEN?
A social network site.
THIS WORLD HAS GONE TO HELL!
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;33006401]Server farm?! Well those servers best be free range or PETT (People for Ethical Treatment of Technology) will do all sorts of silly things.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to write them and make sure they understand we want free-ranged servers
serverfarmville
[QUOTE=Shiftyze;33006445]What a waste of space[/QUOTE]
Because we are running out of space on the Arctic.
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