• FBI to launch nationwide facial recognition service
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[TABLE] [TR] [TD][release] America [SUB][SUP][URL="http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20111007_6100.php?oref=rss"](Nextgov)[/URL][/SUP][/SUB] - [B]FBI to launch nationwide facial recognition service[/B] The FBI by mid-January will activate a nationwide facial recognition service in select states that will allow local police to identify unknown subjects in photos, bureau officials told Nextgov. The federal government is embarking on a multiyear, $1 billion dollar overhaul of the FBI's existing fingerprint database to more quickly and accurately identify suspects, partly through applying other biometric markers, such as iris scans and voice recordings. Often law enforcement authorities will "have a photo of a person and for whatever reason they just don't know who it is [but they know] this is clearly the missing link to our case," said Nick Megna, a unit chief at the FBI's criminal justice information services division. The new facial recognition service can help provide that missing link by retrieving a list of mug shots ranked in order of similarity to the features of the subject in the photo. Today, an agent would have to already know the name of an individual to pull up the suspect's mug shot from among the 10 million shots stored in the bureau's existing Integrated Automated Fingerprint Identification System. Using the new Next-Generation Identification system that is under development, law enforcement analysts will be able to upload a photo of an unknown person; choose a desired number of results from two to 50 mug shots; and, within 15 minutes, receive identified mugs to inspect for potential matches. Users typically will request 20 candidates, Megna said. The service does not provide a direct match. Michigan, Washington, Florida and North Carolina will participate in a test of the new search tool this winter before it is offered to criminal justice professionals across the country in 2014 as part of NGI. The project, which was awarded to Lockheed Martin Corp. in 2008, already has upgraded the FBI's fingerprint matching service. Local authorities have the choice to file mug shots with the FBI as part of the booking process. The bureau expects its collection of shots to rival its repository of 70 million fingerprints once more officers are aware of the facial search's capabilities. Thomas E. Bush III, who helped develop NGI's system requirements when he served as assistant director of the CJIS division between 2005 and 2009, said, "The idea was to be able to plug and play with these identifiers and biometrics." Law enforcement personnel saw value in facial recognition and the technology was maturing, said the 33-year FBI veteran who now serves as a private consultant. NGI's incremental construction seems to align with the White House's push to deploy new information technology in phases so features can be scrapped if they don't meet expectations or run over budget. But immigrant rights groups have raised concerns that the Homeland Security Department, which exchanges digital prints with the FBI, will abuse the new facial recognition component. Currently, a controversial DHS immigrant fingerprinting program called Secure Communities runs FBI prints from booked offenders against the department's IDENT biometric database to check whether they are in the country illegally. Homeland Security officials say they extradite only the most dangerous aliens, including convicted murderers and rapists. But critics say the FBI-DHS print swapping ensnares as many foreigners as possible, including those whose charges are minor or are ultimately dismissed. Megna said Homeland Security is not part of the facial recognition pilot. But, Bush said in the future NGI's data, including the photos, will be accessible by Homeland Security's IDENT. The planned addition of facial searches worries Sunita Patel, a staff attorney with the Center for Constitutional Rights, who said, "Any database of personal identity information is bound to have mistakes. And with the most personal immutable traits like our facial features and fingerprints, the public can't afford a mistake." In addition, Patel said she is concerned about the involvement of local police in information sharing for federal immigration enforcement purposes. "The federal government is using local cops to create a massive surveillance system," she said. Bush said, "We do have the capability to search against each other's systems," but added, "if you don't come to the attention of law enforcement you don't have anything to fear from these systems." Other civil liberties advocates questioned whether the facial recognition application would retrieve mug shots of those who have simply been arrested. "It might be appropriate to have nonconvicted people out of that system," said Jim Harper, director of information policy at the libertarian Cato Institute. FBI officials declined to comment on the recommendation. Harper also noted large-scale searches may generate a lot of false positives, or incorrect matches. Facial recognition "is more accurate with a Google or a Facebook, because they will have anywhere from a half-dozen to a dozen pictures of an individual, whereas I imagine the FBI has one or two mug shots," he said. FBI officials would not disclose the name of the search product or the vendor, but said they gained insights on the technique's accuracy by studying research from the National Institute of Standards and Technology. In responding to concerns about the creation of a Big Brother database for tracking innocent Americans, Megna said the system will not alter the FBI's authorities or the way it conducts business. "This doesn't change or create any new exchanges of data," he said. "It only provides [law enforcement] with a new service to determine what photos are of interest to them." In 2008, the FBI released a privacy impact assessment summarizing its appraisal of controls in place to ensure compliance with federal privacy regulations. Megna said that, during meetings with the CJIS Advisory Policy Board and the National Crime Prevention and Privacy Compact Council, "we haven't gotten a whole lot of pushback on the photo capability." The FBI has an elaborate system of checks and balances to guard fingerprints, palm prints, mug shots and all manner of criminal history data, he said. "This is not something where we want to collect a bunch of surveillance film" and enter it in the system, Megna said. "That would be useless to us. It would be useless to our users."[/release] [/TD] [TD][release][img_thumb]http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/facial.png[/img_thumb] [SUB][I]FBI to launch nationwide facial recognition service[/I][/SUB][/release][TABLE="width: 401, align: right"] [TR] [TD][h2]-- This is not something where we want to collect a bunch of surveillance film and enter it in the system, That would be useless to us. [/h2][SUP]- Megna[/SUP][/TD] [TD][IMG]http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/3.0/mosaic/60x50_quote_marks.gif[/IMG][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
So they are going to take photos out of our passports or will they mandate a yearly photo shot?
So basically reality has caught up to the point where fictional TV shows were 10 years ago? Neat.
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;32697526]So they are going to take photos out of our passports or will they mandate a yearly photo shot?[/QUOTE] In the US, mugshots are photographed whenever a person is arrested. This facial search system analyzes those mugshots, and is no different than current fingerprint-indexing systems.
I take it is going to use photos from NCIC and information from their database (that they already have) and instead of just using fingerprints they'll use photos from other sources to compare photos with ones on the database. I don't see the issue or why people freak out to begin with. When you're booked it in jail you go though medical screenings, get fingerprinted (electronically, or with ink which include fingertips and the entire hand), documentation of any tattoos you have (photos, descriptions) and mug shots. Somtimes they even take blood but that is normally for DWI's or for other reasons. I remember when I was doing training for NCIC and the state's crime database we got to go though all that. Hell before I got hired to work with that department they took my fingerprints and ran my information.
lol "land of the free" what a shitty country
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;32698882]lol "land of the free" what a shitty country[/QUOTE] How does the FBI being capable of finding out who you are through pictures oppress you?
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;32698882]lol "land of the free" what a shitty country[/QUOTE] And yet you still live in it.
[QUOTE=kaven;32698954]And yet you still live in it.[/QUOTE] You know immigrating isn't just arriving in a new country and setting up shop.
Especially because this is for prior offenders, you know, prior criminals? They only know your picture through mugshots [editline]9th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Noz;32698972]You know immigrating isn't just arriving in a new country and setting up shop.[/QUOTE] Especially when you're an angsty teenager!
[QUOTE=Clementine;32698952]How does the FBI being capable of finding out who you are through pictures oppress you?[/QUOTE] You seriously don't see how having a database of everyone in the country is bad? Then again, most people will do anything to be "protected" from that EVIL man next door who got arrested for smoking a harmless plant
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;32698882]lol "land of the free" what a shitty country[/QUOTE] oh no the evil government peoples can get criminals off the streets faster by using already obtained mugshots THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN ORWELLIAN SOCIETY
I'm not very photogenic
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;32699024]You seriously don't see how having a database of everyone in the country is bad? Then again, most people will do anything to be "protected" from that EVIL man next door who got arrested for smoking a harmless plant[/QUOTE] It's not a database of everyone in the country. It's a database of criminal fingerprints but instead of fingerprints it's faces.
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;32699024]You seriously don't see how having a database of everyone in the country is bad? Then again, most people will do anything to be "protected" from that EVIL man next door who got arrested for smoking a harmless plant[/QUOTE] ---Angsty Alarm--- --Detecting Angst-- -Locking On- --_-----Angsty user Cuntsman confirmed--_----- [editline]9th October 2011[/editline] Love the marijuana reference, really helps your argument, really mature etc.
[QUOTE=IdiotStorm;32699055]oh no the evil government peoples can get criminals off the streets faster by using already obtained mugshots THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN ORWELLIAN SOCIETY[/QUOTE]Sounds like something Dave Mustaine would say.
[QUOTE=Clementine;32699116]---Angsty Alarm--- --Detecting Angst-- -Locking On- --_-----Angsty user Cuntsman confirmed--_----- [editline]9th October 2011[/editline] Love the marijuana reference, really helps your argument, really mature etc.[/QUOTE] Be nice. For all we know, he might actually honestly be 5 :v:
[QUOTE=kaven;32698954]And yet you still live in it.[/QUOTE] because it's just so easy to pack up your shit and move to another country
This is fine so long as it's only storing information on people who have been arrested and charged before. But, of course, it's not going to stop at that. I'm sure the FBI is gunning for a system that has every driver's license and passport photo in the country.
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;32698882]lol "land of the free" what a shitty country[/QUOTE] don't like the colors of your flag, find a new set. but that might be hard for you, considering you're only 15, and cant move out of your parents house yet.
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;32699024]You seriously don't see how having a database of everyone in the country is bad? [/QUOTE] Unless you were born and live in some desert somewhere, and occasionally use the internet by breaking into houses in a nearby town, i'm pretty sure the state already has your name and address.
This is ok. Of course we don't know all the details but the article makes it sound like it is only improving the system, going from analogue to digital or whatever. The problem is when they start taking pictures from surveillance cams. That's systematic gathering of personal data. And thank god that is forbidden here. [editline]9th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=FFStudios;32699152]because it's just so easy to pack up your shit and move to another country[/QUOTE] Well then maybe the country is not "shitty" enough to warrant that?
[QUOTE=smallfry;32697875]In the US, mugshots are photographed whenever a person is arrested. This facial search system analyzes those mugshots, and is no different than current fingerprint-indexing systems.[/QUOTE]Being in the system is no fun.. They tried to get my DNA but my lawyer stopped stumped them with some rights and made them angy.
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;32699024]You seriously don't see how having a database of everyone in the country is bad? Then again, most people will do anything to be "protected" from that EVIL man next door who got arrested for smoking a harmless plant[/QUOTE] Hey retard. You fill out a census. They have a database of you and every person in your household and where you live. You register to vote. You affiliate yourself with a party and they know where you live. You sign your selective service card. They can drag your wothless ass into a war if ever need be. I think you're already in the system.
Minority Report.
[QUOTE=smallfry;32697875]In the US, mugshots are photographed whenever a person is arrested. This facial search system analyzes those mugshots, and is no different than current fingerprint-indexing systems.[/QUOTE] Well that doesn't help them to catch first offenders then
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;32699492]don't like the colors of your flag, find a new set. but that might be hard for you, considering you're only 15, and cant move out of your parents house yet.[/QUOTE] Love it or leave it is a damn stupid approach to nationality. As good as the intentions behind this are, it sounds like it could be easily exploited. Or buggy.
I'm not sure what to think of this, although it will help stop crime, I can see how this could be abused and used by crime organizations that will manage to get their hands on it, because it will happen eventually.
[QUOTE=Killuah;32699781]This is ok. Of course we don't know all the details but the article makes it sound like it is only improving the system, going from analogue to digital or whatever. The problem is when they start taking pictures from surveillance cams. That's systematic gathering of personal data. And thank god that is forbidden here. [/QUOTE] I assume that all this is doing is speeding up the process, they already have the mugshots. Its not like they are going out of the way to photograph every single citizen once a year. If like you say they tie this into a CCTV system then people should be scared, they would have the ability to track people then. Somewhat relevant side note, apparently they already do this in Switzerland, tracking people by their faces.
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