• Child Porn Site Kept Running in FBI Operation
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[table="width: 1200, class: outer_border"] [tr] [td][img]http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/21/72/27/4695521/4/628x471.jpg[/img][/td] [td][B]Seattle PI:[/B] [B]The FBI seized and ran a child pornography service late last year as investigators worked to identify its customers,[/B] one Western Washington man allegedly among them. Following a lengthy investigation, Nebraska-based agents raided the large child pornography service in November hoping to catch users who shared thousands of images showing children being raped, displayed and abused. The Bureau ran the service for two weeks while attempting to identify more than 5,000 customers, according to a Seattle FBI agent's statements to the court. Court records indicate the site continued to distribute child pornography online while under FBI control; the Seattle-based special agent, a specialist in online crimes against children, detailed the investigation earlier this month in a statement to the court. The Nebraska investigation is still in its early stages, and, while charges appear to be forthcoming, no one being prosecuted has been publicly tied to the site thus far. Information obtained during the investigation resulted in a search of one Western Washington home, and investigators are presently reviewing computers seized during that April search. The FBI declined requests to discuss the investigation or investigators’ motivations to continue operating the site. Court records indicate investigators hoped to trace customers and were unable to do so through traditional means. [url=http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/FBI-shared-child-porn-to-nab-pedophiles-4552044.php]Source[/url] [/td] [/tr] [/table] [table="width: 1200, class: outer_border"] [tr] [td][img]http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/21/72/27/4695521/4/628x471.jpg[/img][/td] [td][B]SF Gate:[/B] 1,000s of images shared during investigation Named only as “Website A” in an April 10 search warrant affidavit filed by the Seattle-based agent, the child pornography service was described as an online bulletin board with the primary business of advertising and sharing child pornography. The affidavit was obtained by seattlepi.com earlier in May through a publicly accessible court records system. It has since been sealed. Agents in the Omaha area seized “Website A” on Nov. 16 and continued to operate it until Dec. 2, monitoring messages from users of the website, the Seattle special agent told the court. The site was shut down Dec. 2. [B]At the time the service was shuttered it had more than 5,600 users and 24,000 posts, nearly all of which related to child pornography. At least 10,000 photos of children being posed nude, raped or otherwise abused were broadcast through the site.[/B] [url=http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/FBI-shared-child-porn-to-nab-pedophiles-4552044.php#ixzz2UhNyICsG]Source[/url][/td] [/tr] [/table]
Who thought this would ever be a good idea.
wont somebody please think of the children? :(
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;40828194]Who thought this would ever be a good idea.[/QUOTE] In their defense, it caught over 5k pedos. The website was [B]not created by the government, it was seized by the government but continued to run to catch the users.[/b]
Does this border on entrapment? I'm not familiar with US laws though so I'm probably wrong.
Well... it worked. Maybe not the most ethical method to do it, but still.
I honestly thought people who do this sort of stuff did it really under the radar in the deeper web and such. I guess this is a good way to filter out some of the easy bait but I have a feeling out of those 5000+ users they will only actually catch around 100 maybe at most? EDIT: [B]Court records indicate investigators hoped to trace customers and were unable to do so through traditional means.[/B] I thought so. I think by keeping it up and letting those 1000 images go through the website before finally halting it may have caused more general damage than it has cured.
I think this is the one time I can say, the ends justify the means.
Seems like a rather cunning plan, especially if they managed to identify even a fraction of those 5600 users. [QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;40828254]I think this is the one time I can say, the ends justify the means.[/QUOTE]To the children, the damage was already done imo as the pictures were already made. Might as well use that stockpile of child porn to nab the customers.
they keep it running people view it they find out who viewed it go nab them find more cp jail them for having that cp
[QUOTE=leontodd;40828239]Does this border on entrapment? I'm not familiar with US laws though so I'm probably wrong.[/QUOTE] Hardly! Entrapment implies that somebody is tricked or forced into breaking the law. It is not entrapment for the government to simply [I]enable[/I] somebody to break the law, nor do they have to actively attempt to prevent anyone from breaking the law. There's a pretty thorough explanation of all the ins and outs of entrapment (in a fun comic strip form) here: [url]http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped[/url]
[QUOTE=PikachuX1000;40828243]I honestly thought people who do this sort of stuff did it really under the radar in the deeper web and such. I guess this is a good way to filter out some of the easy bait but I have a feeling out of those 5000+ users they will only actually catch around 100 maybe at most? EDIT: [B]Court records indicate investigators hoped to trace customers and were unable to do so through traditional means.[/B] I thought so. I think by keeping it up and letting those 1000 images go through the website before finally halting it may have caused more general damage than it has cured.[/QUOTE] But they caught 5000 pedophiles. That's a lot of pedophiles
[QUOTE=leontodd;40828239]Does this border on entrapment? I'm not familiar with US laws though so I'm probably wrong.[/QUOTE] No. It's a standard sting operation. They're simply running a website, which one would still have to seek out. It would be entrapment if an agent sent you a PM saying "check out this site" with a link to it.
What will happen to those pedophiles though? Will they be put in jail or given psychological help? Cause the former alone would be pretty fucking stupid, to be honest. Well, if those people are only fetishist, that is. Fuck those who make CP.
This whole thing reminds me of that little lacy surprise pageant website in GTA 4.
On one hand, this is kind of sketchy and falls in the moral grey zone. On the other hand, holy shit, they did get some results.
[QUOTE=proch;40828457]What will happen to those pedophiles though? Will they be put in jail or given psychological help? Cause the former alone would be pretty fucking stupid, to be honest. Well, if those people are only fetishist, that is. Fuck those who make CP.[/QUOTE]The US doesn't do much in the way of rehabilitating criminals in general, but it varies considerably by state.
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[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;40828254]I think this is the one time I can say, the ends justify the means.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I mean, pedophila is a pretty big thing. I just hope no one innocent got fucked. A lot of people download the wrong thing or someone used their router and [I]they[/I] get blamed.
Wait...the FBI have CP and use it to lure pedophiles? What if there are pedophiles in the FBI? Who the hell are watching them?
[QUOTE=J!NX;40828539]Yeah, I mean, pedophila is a pretty big thing. I just hope no one innocent got fucked. A lot of people download the wrong thing or someone used their router and [I]they[/I] get blamed.[/QUOTE] Well, it was a forum. In which people where posting and sharing CP. I don't think anyone is going to go there and accidently sign up and download something.
I wonder what the FBI agent that had to upload all those images was thinking about when he did it
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;40828556]Well, it was a forum. In which people where posting and sharing CP. I don't think anyone is going to go there and accidently sign up and download something.[/QUOTE] Good. now I wonder how many tried using that excuse "I swear officer it was an accident I was just curious" [QUOTE=meppers;40828560]I wonder what the FBI agent that had to upload all those images was thinking about when he did it[/QUOTE] Either he's REALLY disgusted or a pedo himself. It's like being the doctor that examines buttholes, you have to really love ass, or be grr about it.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;40828257]To the children, the damage was already done imo as the pictures were already made. Might as well use that stockpile of child porn to nab the customers.[/QUOTE] So basically you're saying that because the damage is already done and the images are already made, it's okay to use it? Double standards, much?
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;40828257]Seems like a rather cunning plan, especially if they managed to identify even a fraction of those 5600 users. To the children, the damage was already done imo as the pictures were already made. Might as well use that stockpile of child porn to nab the customers.[/QUOTE] if the damage was already done why nab the customers in the first place? why is it alright for the fbi to allow for the distribution of child pornography? why is it alright for the fbi to blatantly break the law to hunt people down?
[QUOTE=J!NX;40828539]Yeah, I mean, pedophila is a pretty big thing. I just hope no one innocent got fucked. A lot of people download the wrong thing or someone used their router and [I]they[/I] get blamed.[/QUOTE] I'm guessing they have to do it repeatedly...
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;40828591]So basically you're saying that because the damage is already done and the images are already made, it's okay to use it? Double standards, much?[/QUOTE]They're not putting more children in harm's way by using the pictures, they're reducing the market for cp. If you've got a better idea for catching them, let the FBI know. [QUOTE=yawmwen;40828610]if the damage was already done why nab the customers in the first place? why is it alright for the fbi to allow for the distribution of child pornography? why is it alright for the fbi to blatantly break the law to hunt people down?[/QUOTE]They provide monetary and other motivation to create cp. These kinds of stings have been done before with other kinds of sites, it's not illegal to do so.
this is actually pretty genius immoral but genius link us to the site pls
[QUOTE=proch;40828457]What will happen to those pedophiles though? Will they be put in jail or given psychological help? Cause the former alone would be pretty fucking stupid, to be honest. Well, if those people are only fetishist, that is. Fuck those who make CP.[/QUOTE] You think America cares about rehabilitating offenders? hah. They're getting hard time and hard dick.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;40828646]They're not putting more children in harm's way by using the pictures, they're reducing the market for cp. If you've got a better idea for catching them, let the FBI know. They provide monetary and other motivation to create cp. These kinds of stings have been done before with other kinds of sites, it's not illegal to do so.[/QUOTE] but i mean why should the fbi be exempt from the law?
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