Stephen Colbert forced to retire character of Stephen Colbert
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[quote]For more than a decade, during the 10-season run of his Comedy Central program “The Colbert Report” and on “The Daily Show,” Mr. Colbert had played the role of a character called Stephen Colbert, a fatuous, self-obsessed conservative political commentator.
Last year, when Mr. Colbert became the new host of “The Late Show” (succeeding David Letterman), he dropped the facade and has been hosting this program as himself, an all-around entertainer who still enjoys a good political wisecrack.
But in a live “Late Show” broadcast after the Republican National Convention last week, Mr. Colbert revived this character, playing him in a comedy sketch with Jon Stewart and in a desk-side comedy monologue called “The Word,” also taken from “The Colbert Report.”[/quote]
[quote]On Thursday, Mr. Colbert — the real one — explained that these segments did not play so well with certain “corporate lawyers” that he declined to specify.
“Because — and this is true — immediately after that show, CBS’s top lawyer was contacted by the top lawyer from another company to say that the character Stephen Colbert is their intellectual property,” he said.
He went on to say that, “with a heavy heart,” the Stephen Colbert character who hosted “The Colbert Report” will “never be seen again.”[/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/arts/television/stephen-colbert-retires-stephen-colbert.html?_r=0[/url]
That's some fucking bullshit lmao what
so basically viacom got flustered that he used a character he created when he was with comedy central, screamed at CBS to make him stop and they made him stop
reminds me of when Letterman came from NBC to CBS and couldn't use the characters name of someone who used to star on the late show (old guy i think) because at NBC, he was called something else and it was their IP and CBS had to tell him to use another name or his real name instead
pretty bullshit
[QUOTE=J!NX;50793534]That's some fucking bullshit lmao what[/QUOTE]
Remember when IP laws were created to help protect the creator
So how would it work out in court if Stephen Colbert kept acting like Stephen Colbert but just said "these are my actual opinions"
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50793555]Remember when IP laws were created to help protect the creator[/QUOTE]
Nope. This bullshit has been going on for so long that I can safely say at no point in my life I can remember IP laws being fair.
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[QUOTE=Anti Christ;50793575]Nope. This bullshit has been going on for so long that I can safely say at no point in my life I can remember IP laws being fair.[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean literally remember, it's gotten steadily worse over the past century.
How does the actor not own his own fictitious persona?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50793648]How does the actor not own his own fictitious persona?[/QUOTE]
im going to assume networks copyright whatever the creator came up with to stop other people from stealing it but becomes a double edged sword when they leave the network
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50793547]so basically viacom got flustered that he used a character he created when he was with comedy central, screamed at CBS to make him stop and they made him stop
reminds me of when Letterman came from NBC to CBS and couldn't use the characters name of someone who used to star on the late show (old guy i think) because at NBC, he was called something else and it was their IP and CBS had to tell him to use another name or his real name instead
pretty bullshit[/QUOTE]
Isn't CBS also owned by Viacom?
[QUOTE=Wowza!;50793666]Isn't CBS also owned by Viacom?[/QUOTE]
Viacom is owned by a company with a controlling stake in CBS, but no, Viacom does not own CBS.
Copyright laws in America are fucked, shame it's no one's priority to fix them because anyone who could do something about it is getting greased up by the same corporations.
It's like when John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival was sued for sounding like himself
[url]http://mentalfloss.com/article/27501/time-john-fogerty-was-sued-ripping-john-fogerty[/url]
this shit needs to stop
Intellectual property is such a crock of shit. IP law needs to be carefully changed to make it impossible to abuse, and to state that only the creator or creators of a certain work have rights to it - not their publishers.
[QUOTE=archangel125;50793751]Intellectual property is such a crock of shit. IP law needs to be carefully changed to make it impossible to abuse, and to state that only the creator or creators of a certain work have rights to it - not their publishers.[/QUOTE]
Abuse is inevitable but avoidable
It's extremely common for companies that hire you to put it in your contract that they own the IP to anything you developed while working for them. The argument is that they are paying you to come up with the stuff. So they should have the rights for it once you do your job.
he replaced stephen colbert with [I]stephen colbert[/I]
[QUOTE=archangel125;50793751]Intellectual property is such a crock of shit. IP law needs to be carefully changed to make it impossible to abuse, and to state that only the creator or creators of a certain work have rights to it - not their publishers.[/QUOTE]
That wouldn't work at all since anyone could just immediately quit and sue their employer for using what they created. I've even seen that happen when they didn't have a good contract
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50793648]How does the actor not own his own fictitious persona?[/QUOTE]
Contracts
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50793648]How does the actor not own his own fictitious persona?[/QUOTE]
A lot of contracts have your creations under the company become the sole property of said company
This is why game artists can't finish their contract and then sell 3d models from world of warcraft or what have you on the open market after the fact
offtopic, but found some cool stuff about him
[video=youtube;-qhGqCAlgXM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qhGqCAlgXM[/video]
how can anyone dislike this man
[QUOTE=jiggu;50793999]That wouldn't work at all since anyone could just immediately quit and sue their employer for using what they created. I've even seen that happen when they didn't have a good contract[/QUOTE]
Perhaps a better system is allowing both the publisher of the IP when created to use the creation for a time negotiated with the rights holder which can be extended through further negotiations, with the rights still firmly belonging to the one who created it.
[QUOTE=archangel125;50793751]Intellectual property is such a crock of shit. IP law needs to be carefully changed to make it impossible to abuse, and to state that only the creator or creators of a certain work have rights to it - not their publishers.[/QUOTE]
There's a reason copyright law is complicated.
Say you hire an artist to design a character for you. You paid the artist to make you something, so does that character belong to you or the artist? If it belongs to the artist, then why pay someone to make something for you that you won't own?
[editline]29th July 2016[/editline]
Don't get me wrong, I find it unfortunate the Stephen Colbert will never come back, but I saw this coming the moment I saw that segment. My immediate response to seeing Stephen Colbert return was, "how did CBS or Viacom allow this?" Guess the answer was: they didn't.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50794286]My immediate response to seeing Stephen Colbert return was, "how did CBS or Viacom allow this?" Guess the answer was: they didn't.[/QUOTE]
CBS gave him full creative control over the show, so I don't think he'd bother about asking them if he could do something.
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