• 480 000 sex crimes against women in Sweden - in a year
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[quote=bt.se]More and more women say they are victims of sexual crimes. New figures from the National Council shows that 480 000 events affected Swedish women in 2015. That is more than any previous year. In a new study says three percent of the women that they were subjected to some form of sexual offenses in 2015. The corresponding figure last year was just under two percent. Between the years 2005 and 2012, very little happened in BRÅ's statistics. The percentage of women who said they were victims of sex crimes was between 1 and 1.5 percent. In 2013 the figure rose to 2.4 percent, and this year is the highest so far. - We can not say what caused it. This survey does not include the tools, but is designed to produce figures and show how it looks, says Emelie Hambrook, investigator at the National Council, said.[/quote] [url]https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bt.se%2Fsverige-varlden%2F480-000-sexbrott-mot-kvinnor-i-sverige-pa-ett-ar%2F[/url] It really pains me to see how my country is being ravaged in multiple ways by these criminals, worse and worse each year...
Do the figures go into details of what crimes they were? If I remember correctly, Sweden has expanded their definition of sex crimes to include a wider array of offenses. Something as "simple" as a butt-pinch could be considered a sex crime to my knowledge
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51307224]Do the figures go into details of what crimes they were? If I remember correctly, Sweden has expanded their definition of sex crimes to include a wider array of offenses. Something as "simple" as a butt-pinch could be considered a sex crime to my knowledge[/QUOTE] Don't expect that clarification from OP, he'll pretty much blame solely the refugees.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51307224]Do the figures go into details of what crimes they were? If I remember correctly, Sweden has expanded their definition of sex crimes to include a wider array of offenses. Something as "simple" as a butt-pinch could be considered a sex crime to my knowledge[/QUOTE] Shouldn't a butt pinch be considered a sex crime, though? You're sexually assaulting someone.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51307224]Do the figures go into details of what crimes they were? If I remember correctly, Sweden has expanded their definition of sex crimes to include a wider array of offenses. Something as "simple" as a butt-pinch could be considered a sex crime to my knowledge[/QUOTE] The problem isn't that butt-pinches are considered sex-crimes, 'cause they should. They're clear-cut sexual harassment. The problem is that they get lumped in with actual sexual assault in statistics like this, with no distinction, for the purpose of making a 'brown people are ruining society' narrative.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;51307260]Shouldn't a butt pinch be considered a sex crime, though? You're sexually assaulting someone.[/QUOTE] Hence the airquotes. It's not good, and I'm not condoning it. However, many countries and jurisdictions would brush it off
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51307224]Do the figures go into details of what crimes they were? If I remember correctly, Sweden has expanded their definition of sex crimes to include a wider array of offenses. [B]Something as "simple" as a butt-pinch could be considered a sex crime to my knowledge[/B][/QUOTE][emphasis mine] That actually goes for a lot of countries, since (non-violent) grabbing can be sexual assault depending on the context in most places outside the US. The part that is unusual about Sweden is the rape legislation, which if I'm not mistaken is significantly broader than e.g. here.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51307224]Do the figures go into details of what crimes they were? If I remember correctly, Sweden has expanded their definition of sex crimes to include a wider array of offenses. Something as "simple" as a butt-pinch could be considered a sex crime to my knowledge[/QUOTE] It includes all crimes of sexual nature, from flashing to rape.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51307219]It really pains me to see how my country is being ravaged in multiple ways by these criminals, worse and worse each year...[/QUOTE] why dont u go outside
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51307239]Don't expect that clarification from OP, he'll pretty much blame solely the refugees.[/QUOTE] You can deny it all you want, it mostly [I]is[/I] the refugees.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51307224]Do the figures go into details of what crimes they were? If I remember correctly, Sweden has expanded their definition of sex crimes to include a wider array of offenses. Something as "simple" as a butt-pinch could be considered a sex crime to my knowledge[/QUOTE] That coupled with the fact that people are more likely to actually report these things here. Still, it's worrying to see that the numbers are rising. I really don't know if it has to do with the increased number of refugees or not. Seeing as the goverment has pretty much closed the borders now (unless I'm mistaken?) maybe we'll see the rise in sex crimes plane out.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51307301]You can deny it all you want, it mostly [I]is[/I] the refugees.[/QUOTE] source
[QUOTE=Avvy;51307286]why dont u go outside[/QUOTE] That's where they get you though. When I was in Sweden earlier this year and traveling with 2 girls from Australia they were getting sex crimed like 10 times an hour.
[QUOTE=KillRay;51307310]source[/QUOTE] Hard to find a *reliable* one where the perpetrators race is mentioned because das raycis, it's not hard to make the connection that an influx of hundreds of thousands of people that follow a religion where women are treated as less than dirt, that influx correlates to the spike in sexual crimes. but that reliable one has been found [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-of-sexual-assaults-in-europe-a6800901.html[/url]
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51307344]i cant find a source[/QUOTE] then i dont care what you have to say
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51307224]Do the figures go into details of what crimes they were? If I remember correctly, Sweden has expanded their definition of sex crimes to include a wider array of offenses. Something as "simple" as a butt-pinch could be considered a sex crime to my knowledge[/QUOTE] If you read through the article it mentions this. [quote]The question posed in NTU covers a wide range of sexual offenses, from indecent exposure and groping to rape. The victims must themselves provide the severity of the crime. In 29 percent of cases, it's about more serious sexual offenses.[/quote] So, the most serious are 29%. 29% out of 480 000 are 139200. That is an insane amount of severe sexual offenses. And what I think is very interesting is exactly the contrary of what the media and politicians have been wanting us to believ that the vast majority of sexual offenses happens in the home, 69% are from a stranger it turns out. Politicians and police have been saying this is a good thing, a good development, that it shows that more rapes and sexual offences are being reported then before and that the society is safer then ever before. But - between 2014 and 2015 the murder rate in Sweden have risen 80%, and then 2016 is not included. Does this mean that more murders are being reported and that before? Does a 80% murder increase show a safer society? [QUOTE=CroGamer002;51307239]Don't expect that clarification from OP, he'll pretty much blame solely the refugees.[/QUOTE] If you don't have anything to add then don't comment. Explain to me, if the HUGE increase in immigrants from countries with the worst views of women in the world are not to be blamed, I would like for you to explain how in Helsinki the sexual harassment crimes increased 820% and sexual harassment crimes commited by foreign citizens increased 367%? Oh and don't forget Cologne, a prime example. [url]https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.poliisi.fi%2Finstancedata%2Fprime_product_julkaisu%2Fintermin%2Fembeds%2Fpolisenaxwwwstructure%2F46729_HPL_Ulkomaan_kansalaisten_osuus_rikollisuudessa_tammi_maalisk.2016.pdf%3F5f5ffe50796ad388&sandbox=1[/url] [url]https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fyle.fi%2Fuutiset%2F3-8830647[/url] Cause and correlation. [QUOTE=KillRay;51307348]then i dont care what you have to say[/QUOTE] Would you care to look at my sources above? Or are statistics racist to you? [QUOTE=Avvy;51307286]why dont u go outside[/QUOTE] Ooooh what a zinger! I see you don't know how conduct an argument in your cause.
[QUOTE=KillRay;51307348]your argument is invalid because i cant handle anything other than the brainwashing i've received[/QUOTE] see above. should've clarified, a [B]reliable[/B] source
Is it really all that bad to be like "hey alot of uncool stuff is happening here, maybe it has to do with the large groups of foreign people that we just got in a couple weeks ago?" I mean, that's just logic to look at that and make a connection right? You're not saying all of them are bad, but you aren't turning your eyes from that fact that the scum of their country is probably hiding among the refugees. Remember guys in war Women and kids flee the country, and intermingled into them is the cowards and lowlifes who want to run away.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51307360]see above. should've clarified, a [B]reliable[/B] source[/QUOTE] Because that totally makes it better? If you put out the pretty clear cut statement that most of these crimes are committed by refugees, I suppose you'd have a source somewhere that you yourself trust?
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51307418]Because that totally makes it better? If you put out the pretty clear cut statement that most of these crimes are committed by refugees, I suppose you'd have a source somewhere that you yourself trust?[/QUOTE] I myself, think it's more of the guys that have been doing it in their original country for while, when war started they packed up and followed their "prey"
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51307418]Because that totally makes it better? If you put out the pretty clear cut statement that most of these crimes are committed by refugees, I suppose you'd have a source somewhere that you yourself trust?[/QUOTE] As I said before it's not hard to make the connection that a huge influx of refugees who worship a religion where women are treated like shit would correlate to the huge spike of rape and sexual assault crimes against women.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51307350] Cause and correlation.[/QUOTE] Yep. correlations are totally the right way to make arguments. anyways, no one said that there will be zero crime increase from taking in refugees. but to be blunt, a lot of problems were caused by improper handling of this whole refugee crisis. if we didnt take in refugees through these legal means, other countries would be even more screwed over than they are now, and some refugees will just cross in illegally anyways, without any background checks at all. What is your damn solution to this problem?
Wow... Are you guys really being this ignorant and naive? Anybody can see that a sharp rise in people can cause a sharp rise in crime, especially sex crimes when the main religion of the majority being brought in is so lax on the treatment of women... Furreh made a good point, and he's met with unnecessary hostility...
[QUOTE=da space core;51307436]Yep. correlations are totally the right way to make arguments. anyways, no one said that there will be zero crime increase from taking in refugees. but to be blunt, a lot of problems were caused by improper handling of this whole refugee crisis. if we didnt take in refugees through these legal means, other countries would be even more screwed over than they are now, and some refugees will just cross in illegally anyways, without any background checks at all. What is your damn solution to this problem?[/QUOTE] Don't take in refugees and secure the border. What we should have done is never have created the power vacuum and instability in the middle east with proxy wars, but a good idea now is to just eradicate Islam along with other religion since muh gerd and muh jeebus seem to be a big motivator behind what's wrong in the world. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Muh genocidal memeshit" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51307454]but a good idea now is to just eradicate Islam along with other religion.[/QUOTE] Just fuckin end religion huh [editline]4th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Robman8908;51307446] Furreh made a good point, and he's met with unnecessary hostility...[/QUOTE] If he made a good point he would be able to back it up But he didn't
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51307454]Don't take in refugees and secure the border. What we should have done is never have created the power vacuum and instability in the middle east with proxy wars, but a good idea now is to just eradicate Islam along with other religion since muh gerd and muh jeebus seem to be a big motivator behind what's wrong in the world.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah lets declare war on religion. You're against about a billion people at least.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51307301]You can deny it all you want, it mostly [I]is[/I] the refugees.[/QUOTE] There are 142000 registered refugees in Sweden, meaning that for most of them to be committed by refugees you'd need an average of 2 sex crimes per refugee. While I don't doubt t that some refugees commit crimes, they aren't literally committing several crimes each.
[QUOTE=da space core;51307436]Yep. correlations are totally the right way to make arguments. anyways, no one said that there will be zero crime increase from taking in refugees. but to be blunt, a lot of problems were caused by improper handling of this whole refugee crisis. if we didnt take in refugees through these legal means, other countries would be even more screwed over than they are now, and some refugees will just cross in illegally anyways, without any background checks at all. What is your damn solution to this problem?[/QUOTE] Oh boy I really wish I could, if I did I would probably get the Nobel prize. How about, don't take in more then your social system can handle, deport all who commit crimes while saying they need asylum, secure the borders, make background checks, establish a gender quota for asylum seekers (more then 80% are men), deport those lying about their age to get better asylum privileges, help them educate themselves in Swedish so they have a chance to integrate into the society. I think those are good starters. [QUOTE=KillRay;51307466]Just fuckin end religion huh [editline]4th November 2016[/editline] If he made a good point he would be able to back it up But he didn't[/QUOTE] How come you didn't answer to the statistics I provided? Oh right, it doesn't serve your agenda.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51307454]Don't take in refugees and secure the border. What we should have done is never have created the power vacuum and instability in the middle east with proxy wars, but a good idea now is to just eradicate Islam along with other religion since muh gerd and muh jeebus seem to be a big motivator behind what's wrong in the world.[/QUOTE] Secular dictatorships are the core cancer that cause the instability in Middle East. And none of those secular dictators would ever been in power if it weren't for the Cold War and botched decolonization. These secular dictators are also massive Arab supremacists that want to form their own pan-Arabian empire, regardless of what people of different ethnicities, cultures and religions want. Due to their power-hungry ambitions, for past century Middle Eastern countries kept getting into deadly and devastating wars and civil wars that resulted into nothing by end of it but lot's of death and destruction. The only countries that did not suffer from that are religious theocracies( Saudi Arabia) or religious democracies( Iran post-revolution). To blame it all on religion only goes to show you know nothing of history, geopolitics nor anything on what had happened in Middle East for past century.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51307489]Oh yeah lets declare war on religion. You're against about a billion people at least.[/QUOTE] If you're talking all religion then it's more like 6 billion + most other sane people who realise that enforcing beliefs is a terrible idea. Then we come to the rest of that post and a) We have made a power vacuum. Hindsight is 20/20 but we are where we are, so b) we have refugees turning up on our borders. We can't send them back to Syria/Eritrea/Iraq etc. for both logistical and moral reasons, so we have a problem which we need to deal with. Burying our heads in the sand just means that we still take the refugees but we don't prepare infrastructure or do anything to tackle the causes of this whole issue. If we funded refugee camps so that they could provide proper education and opportunities for people to live their lives, then far fewer people would be willing to risk their lives to get here. Or we could just leave people in dangerous and/or awful conditions and tell most of the world that they aren't allowed to keep their faith.
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