• Ofcom ordered to review planned DEA crackdown on IP piracy
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[quote]The government has ordered Ofcom to review the planned crackdown on intellectual property piracy in the Digital Economy Act, in a move likely to delay the new law's site blocking provisions. Culture Secretary [b]Jeremy Hunt[/b], whose remit has been widened by [b]absorbing some of the IT and media responsibilities[/b] of Business Secretary Vince Cable, [b]said he had "no problem" with the principle of blocking access to web sites that were infringing copyright on music, films and TV programmes.[/b] But he added: "It is not clear whether the site-blocking provisions in the act could work in practice, [b]so I have asked Ofcom to address this question.[/b] Before we consider introducing site-blocking we need to know whether it is possible to enforce these measures." The new law was rushed onto the statute book in the dying days of the last Labour government amid allegations of a lack of proper scrutiny. Music publishers and the film industry fear Hunt's intervention will delay the copyright crackdown promised in the legislation and that they will suffer further losses through illegal file-sharing. But Hunt said: "The government is committed to creating the right conditions for businesses to grow. This includes providing them with the right tools to protect the products of their hard work and investment. "The Digital Economy Act seeks to protect our creative economy from online copyright infringement, which the industry estimates costs them £400m a year." The site-blocking provisions require further secondary legislation before they can be introduced. Some ISPs have launched legal action against what they see as enforcement through the imposition of a burdensome responsibility for something beyond their control.[/quote] [url=http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/1896021/bt-talktalk-win-legal-review-digital-economy-act]Source.[/url] A few days ago, my p2p "Linux Distro" downloads went to a shockingly low 5kb/s, down from 400kb/s. So far, only people on TalkTalk (Including Tiscali, since they've merged) and BT have had notably low speeds - but this suggests the government's successfully pressurising them. This is no good for the legitimate uses of peer to peer.
Is this the beginning of the end of piracy? Or is it a coincidence you happened to get slow speeds that day, soon after hearing this news...
This'll be the same as every other anti piracy tactic, it'll hurt legitimate consumers the most.
[QUOTE=Trumple;27978992]Is this the beginning of the end of piracy? Or is it a coincidence you happened to get slow speeds that day, soon after hearing this news...[/QUOTE] Several other people, not restricted to my ISP or location have the same issue. And again, it's awful p2p speeds and as-normal speeds for everything else. Same issue at off-peak times as well.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27979035]Several other people, not restricted to my ISP or location have the same issue. And again, it's awful p2p speeds and as-normal speeds for everything else. Same issue at off-peak times as well.[/QUOTE] So it's a bit like the end of net neutrality as well, by the sounds of it. "blocking" certain sites. Or perhaps it's different because it's a more specific crack down on "illegal" traffic
[QUOTE=Trumple;27979284]So it's a bit like the end of net neutrality as well, by the sounds of it. "blocking" certain sites. Or perhaps it's different because it's a more specific crack down on "illegal" traffic[/QUOTE] They can't tell the difference between legal and illegal torrents, so it's not that. They are hinting about completely blocking sites that purely serve pirates though.
[QUOTE=Trumple;27979284]So it's a bit like the end of net neutrality as well, by the sounds of it. "blocking" certain sites. Or perhaps it's different because it's a more specific crack down on "illegal" traffic[/QUOTE] Too bad Peer2Peer isn't illegal in any sense of the word.
[QUOTE=Miskav;27979322]Too bad Peer2Peer isn't illegal in any sense of the word.[/QUOTE] Too bad none is gonna do jack shit about it besides sit and whine on internet forums then, isn't it? It's not like whether its legal or not actually matters.
Also if they actually are limiting your torrent speeds, why wouldn't they just completely block it?
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12875849/MSPA/Pictures/reactions/rolllllllllllllll.gif[/img_thumb] Let's see if this does anything else than make people mad...
[QUOTE=The fox;27979430]Too bad none is gonna do jack shit about it besides sit and whine on internet forums then, isn't it? It's not like whether its legal or not actually matters.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the most powerful sharing system to date and it doesn't matter at all :downsbravo:
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;27979943]Yeah, the most powerful sharing system to date and it doesn't matter at all [/QUOTE] I meant the fact that it is legal doesn't matter to corporations. :downsbravo: Especially since everyone who are affected by this don't do anything at all to fix it, than sit and whine on internet forums and think the problem will go away because of that.
[QUOTE=The fox;27980069]I meant the fact that it is legal doesn't matter to corporations. :downsbravo: Especially since everyone who are affected by this don't do anything at all to fix it, than sit and whine on internet forums and think the problem will go away because of that.[/QUOTE] Really? I've emailed my representative, and other things. Speak for your own fucking lazy ass.
Challenge Accepted. [QUOTE=The fox;27980069]I meant the fact that it is legal doesn't matter to corporations. :downsbravo: Especially since everyone who are affected by this don't do anything at all to fix it, than sit and whine on internet forums and think the problem will go away because of that.[/QUOTE] Well aren't you a [I]"special"[/I] one?
[QUOTE=The fox;27980069]I meant the fact that it is legal doesn't matter to corporations. :downsbravo: Especially since everyone who are affected by this don't do anything at all to fix it, than sit and whine on internet forums and think the problem will go away because of that.[/QUOTE] Discussing it on the internet doesn't exclude the possibility that people are also actively discussing the issue outside of Facepunch as well Think before you post or I'll email ISPs to remove net neutrality but only for you and your post button
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27978925] A few days ago, my p2p "Linux Distro" downloads went to a shockingly low 5kb/s, down from 400kb/s. So far, only people on TalkTalk (Including Tiscali, since they've merged) and BT have had notably low speeds - but this suggests the government's successfully pressurising them. This is no good for the legitimate uses of peer to peer.[/QUOTE] BT have been doing packet shaping in various forms for years its nothing new, afaik they do it at certain times of the day. Or it could just be that your torrent doesn't have enough seeders or something. Anyway, combined with the up coming judicial review (which the ORG are involved in, on TalkTalk's side iirc) this abomination of a law might finally be sorted out. Its a shame that certain questionable anti piracy measures got bundled into a law which in theory can do a lot of good things.
will this effect linux distro downloaders such as myself who use Usenet??
[QUOTE=Verdana;27983228]will this effect linux distro downloaders such as myself who use Usenet??[/QUOTE] As it stands to the best of my knowledge it might effect people who get their linux from certain sites or through P2P and no one else. Its a really bad law, it doesn't even explain or define how information on pirates is going to be gathered but does make an expectation that it will happen.
[QUOTE=Verdana;27983228]will this effect linux distro downloaders such as myself who use Usenet??[/QUOTE] no you'll be fine. i read somewhere they were thinking of blocking soe nzb sites though?
I have a folder on my Portable Harddrive called Linux Distros, and it actually contains Linux Distros: [img]http://gyazo.com/418867298a373c4675cd8f49c274e243.png[/img]
encryption, kids
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;27989784]I have a folder on my Portable Harddrive called Linux Distros, and it actually contains Linux Distros: [img_thumb]http://gyazo.com/418867298a373c4675cd8f49c274e243.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9104987/linux.jpg[/img]
What kind of government are we talking about here?
I saw this and thought the Drug Enforcement Agency, and was like god what are drug pirates even doing?
[img]http://images.whatport80.com/images/c/c9/Good_Luck_I%27m_Behind_7_Proxies.jpg[/img]
They can't win, I won't allow it.
So that's why my net is slow when I use torrent for "game updates". I'm also on Talk Talk btw.
[quote] But he added: "It is not clear whether the site-blocking provisions in the act could work in practice, [B]so I have asked Ofcom to address this question.[/B] Before we consider introducing site-blocking we need to know whether it is possible to enforce these measures."[/quote] It obviously won't.
[QUOTE=tomatmann;27990440]What kind of government are we talking about here?[/QUOTE] British
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