• Reintroduce pillories as punishment?
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The medieval pillory was used 2 humiliate peeps in front of the hole town and to amuse the society. [IMG]http://www.stronghold-knights.com/site/album/aubergine/pillory_stocks.jpg[/IMG] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillory[/url] With internet and newspapes back in the times the thing wud propably went different (we woudnt take bout medieval times now tho) short: i wanna suggest something maybe debateable but in my eyes very effective and useful as a punishment: i think that the offender should be with name and current photo and the commited crime be put on the internet. the full address ofc not to prevent revenge of psycos. the zipcode shud be enough. Ofc only do that when the offense is of a certen degree ie not some minor offense like stealing a apple and not forrever but for a few weeks. My personal opinion r that it wud be a good alternative to mony fines or prison. the basic punishment wud be that the livin conditions wud be harder for a certain time span. this wud maybe scare poeple more than paying some money and wud be cheaper for the state. ofc my suggestoin can be addjusted like with less details online or so but what do u think?
Yeah I agree that would be completely the best way to reform bad elements of society and to teach them to right their wrongs. [editline]12:07PM[/editline] Absolutely.
Hey OP, there's a reason they stopped doing that.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;23637507]Hey OP, there's a reason they stopped doing that.[/QUOTE] Witch is? They still do that for sex offenders so better rethink yo argument.
Hahaha. [editline]01:16PM[/editline] No
Calling troll on extreme long shot of being correct and becoming internet legend.
[QUOTE=The Salmon;23637602]Calling troll on extreme long shot of being correct and becoming internet legend.[/QUOTE] :bandwagon: What is troll about this? its a completely valid argument and discusison. I provided an idea an explanation an suggestion and a discussion foundation. Its even based in the realworld since america already does this for sex offenders.
Troll? If not it a crap idea.
[QUOTE=iusehax;23637632]Troll? If not it a crap idea.[/QUOTE] explain why.
[QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637444]The medieval pillory was used 2 humiliate peeps in front of the hole town and to amuse the society. [IMG]http://www.stronghold-knights.com/site/album/aubergine/pillory_stocks.jpg[/IMG] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillory[/url] With internet and newspapes back in the times the thing wud propably went different (we woudnt take bout medieval times now tho) short: i wanna suggest something maybe debateable but in my eyes very effective and useful as a punishment: i think that the offender should be with name and current photo and the commited crime be put on the internet. the full address ofc not to prevent revenge of psycos. the zipcode shud be enough. Ofc only do that when the offense is of a certen degree ie not some minor offense like stealing a apple and [b]not forrever but for a few weeks.[/b] My personal opinion r that it wud be a good alternative to mony fines or prison. the basic punishment wud be that the livin conditions wud be harder for a certain time span. this wud maybe scare poeple more than paying some money and wud be cheaper for the state. ofc my suggestoin can be addjusted like with less details online or so but what do u think?[/QUOTE] Once something is broadcasted on the internet, it [B]stays[/B] on the internet.
[QUOTE=Jack Bryce;23637651]Once something is broadcasted on the internet, it [B]stays[/B] on the internet.[/QUOTE] But how is that an argument against the hole thing if the USA already do that for sex offenders??
OP are you like 12 years old
[QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637668]But how is that an argument against the hole thing if the USA already do that for sex offenders??[/QUOTE] Because once a person is on a sex offender's list, I'm pretty sure they're on it forever anyway...
[QUOTE=Jack Bryce;23637689]Because once a person is on a sex offender's list, I'm pretty sure they're on it forever anyway...[/QUOTE] Again how does this is an argument against the hole idea? Then make the file open on the internet so its exposed. nobody has a problem with sex offenders on there y not drunk drivers or ppl who beat their wife???
[QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637697]Again how does this is an argument against the hole idea? Then make the file open on the internet so its exposed. nobody has a problem with sex offenders on there y not drunk drivers or ppl who beat their wife???[/QUOTE] why don't you learn to spell first also there're these things called "human rights"
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;23637707]why don't you learn to spell first also there're these things called "human rights"[/QUOTE] And why do sex offenders have no human rights preventin their info from appearing on the world wide web??? If u can do it there y not for wife beaters
[QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637697]Again how does this is an argument against the hole idea? Then make the file open on the internet so its exposed. nobody has a problem with sex offenders on there y not drunk drivers or ppl who beat their wife???[/QUOTE] Because it's generally accepted that drunk drivers and spouse-beaters aren't beyond redemption, they can change but it seems that sex offenders don't get the same respect. Also your idea suggests that we publicly out and humiliate small-time thieves. After that, that person wouldn't be trusted by anyone in their area, that's not very fair is it?
[QUOTE=Jack Bryce;23637732] Also your idea suggest that we publicly out and humiliate small-time thieves. After that, that person wouldn't be trusted by anyone in their area, that's not very fair is it?[/QUOTE] no i explicitely stated [QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637444] Ofc only do that when the offense is of a certen degree ie not some minor offense like stealing a apple [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637637]explain why.[/QUOTE] Simple: It's stupid. Back then, it was a dumbass christian device to cause psyhological trauma on the victim. We've grown up, and we don't need some stupid and juvinile social lynching device. Plus, if you leave a woman in one of those, I'd say that would problably just make rape and sexual harrassment charges go through the roof. I mean, she's already bending over for fuck's sake.
[QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637752]no i explicitely stated[/QUOTE] Are car thieves outside your concept of small-time thief then? They don't exactly deserve public humiliation either.
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[QUOTE=Vinze;23637790]Simple: It's stupid. Back then, it was a dumbass christian device to cause psyhological trauma on the victim. We've grown up, and we don't need some stupid and juvinile social lynching device. Plus, if you leave a woman in one of those, I'd say that would problably just make rape and sexual harrassment charges go through the roof. I mean, she's already bending over for fuck's sake.[/QUOTE] oh god u know whats stupid? This post. read the first goddamn post before talking random nonsence. I am talking about the internet and not literal pillories. and plz provide a source on how its christian. the original device had nothin to do with religion it was simple a way of toture/punishment.
I'm thinking 12 year old. Perhaps a troll, but he doesn't seem to be annoying enough. There is, of course, the chance that he's retarded... [editline]12:37PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637814]oh god u know whats stupid?[/QUOTE] I read this far and fell of my chair from the blatant irony.
[QUOTE=~ZOMG;23637815]I'm thinking 12 year old. Perhaps a troll, but he doesn't seem to be annoying enough. There is, of course, the chance that he's retarded... [editline]12:37PM[/editline] I read this far and fell of my chair from the blatant irony.[/QUOTE] y dont u keep yo brilliant theories to urself if you cant come up with a contribution to a discussion. before accusin people of troll make sure u dont spam with somethin already stated (was misplaced an unnecessary there as well) [editline]11:40AM[/editline] again if possible for sex offenders y not for other crimes instead of a money fine or prison sentence. if ppl beatin their wife wud be exposed online they wud maybe think twice about doing it. how can u say thats a bad thing
Let's make abuse of the english language a crime and put you in one of em.
[QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637697]Again how does this is an argument against the hole idea? Then make the file open on the internet so its exposed. [B]nobody has a problem with sex offenders[/B] on there y not drunk drivers or ppl who beat their wife???[/QUOTE] Oh god I laughed until I shat myself, excuse me while I clean up.
[QUOTE=bravehat;23637886]Oh god I laughed until I shat myself, excuse me while I clean up.[/QUOTE] maybe u learn to read. i said "nobody has a problem with sex offenders BEING EXPOSED ON THE INTERNET".
[QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637814] the original device had nothin to do with religion it was simple a way of toture/punishment.[/QUOTE] Christianity is defined by the middle-ages. Also: [QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637814] the original device had nothin to do with religion [B]it was simple a way of toture/punishment.[/B][/QUOTE] Besides for the terrible grammar, I'd say that pretty much says it all, nobody wants a vengeful justice system, it's meant to compensate for the crime, and provide saftey, not as an act of revenge. So once more: It's stupid, inmature, and very, very, christian, they love to shine giant spotlights on people who's been "sinning", and humiliate people to break their spirits, that's what brings them back to curch, just look at that poor raped fourteen year old girl who had to apologize in her church for being a slut, even though she was raped. It has outdated, inmature and dumb middle aged christianity written all over it. So no, I don't want some dumbass idea re-instated, it [B]does not [/B]compensate for the crime, and it [B]does not[/B] provide saftey. I know tons of people within law enforcement, not for being a frequent lawbreaker, but because I pretty much grew up at a police station, and none of them will EVER support such a dumb and outdated agenda.
[QUOTE=Vinze;23637905]that's what brings them back to curch, just look at that poor raped fourteen year old girl who had to apologize in her church for being a slut, even though she was raped. I[/QUOTE] except that was a cult. and y do ppl have to bring up christianity and religion all the time. if it wud prevent ppl from beatin their wife cuz thye dont wanna be exposed it does provide saftey. and money fines dont do justice or provide safety either
[QUOTE=Vendetta1989;23637840]y dont u keep yo brilliant theories to urself if you cant come up with a contribution to a discussion. before accusin people of troll make sure u dont spam with somethin already stated (was misplaced an unnecessary there as well) [editline]11:40AM[/editline] again if possible for sex offenders y not for other crimes instead of a money fine or prison sentence. if ppl beatin their wife wud be exposed online they wud maybe think twice about doing it. how can u say thats a bad thing[/QUOTE] No one will take you seriously if you continue to write like a retard. Also, I withdraw my comment about you being a troll. You're 12/retarded/both.
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