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Well ladies and gents, I ask for your help.
I didn't take down my Specs with Speccy since they really don't matter in this case, but I will get them upon request.
The battery in my laptop has gone kaput. Being the hill billy that I am, I will try maybe some of the most stupidest things to fix it (It's completely dead, so anything goes!).
I wish to ask you all, what should I try to fix it.
I'm not going to bother replacing the battery with a new one since this thing is a cheap piece of shit. I'll save up to get a new laptop instead.
[editline]20th October 2011[/editline]
Nothing? Seriously Facepunch? Someone has to have atleast one idea!
[editline]20th October 2011[/editline]
Nobody has nothing?
What is kaputt about it? Does it totally not work, or does it work for a whort while?
Are you even sure its the battery?
And you can buy seperate battery's you dont have to get a whole new laptop.
[QUOTE=taipan;32889438]What is kaputt about it? Does it totally not work, or does it work for a whort while?
Are you even sure its the battery?
And you can buy seperate battery's you dont have to get a whole new laptop.[/QUOTE]
I said it was completely dead, and I'm sure it's the battery. I can plug my laptop into the wall and run it. Also, I'm not buying a new battery for a shitty laptop I don't even like.
Attempting to fix a Lithium Ion battery (or any battery in general) is dangerous. The electrolyte inside them is corrosive and toxic, and opening them could lead it to spraying all over you.
The best "fix" for the battery would be to take it to a battery recycling company and have them dispose of it, there is nothing you can do to make it work again.
Feed direct DC voltage into the laptop without the battery? I'm not talking about just plugging the laptop into its charger because I don't think that will work without the battery. I could be wrong you can try that. But what I'm talking about is hooking the charger straight up to the leads where the battery was. If not the charger than some sort of power supply.
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32898961]Feed direct DC voltage into the laptop without the battery? I'm not talking about just plugging the laptop into its charger because I don't think that will work without the battery. I could be wrong you can try that. But what I'm talking about is hooking the charger straight up to the leads where the battery was. If not the charger than some sort of power supply.[/QUOTE]
You're dumb. Doing what you said will undoubtedly destroy the laptop and probably cause a fire.
And laptops work fine without batteries. Batteries are in them so they can be run without wall power.
[QUOTE=bohb;32897586]Attempting to fix a Lithium Ion battery (or any battery in general) is dangerous. The electrolyte inside them is corrosive and toxic, and opening them could lead it to spraying all over you.
The best "fix" for the battery would be to take it to a battery recycling company and have them dispose of it, there is nothing you can do to make it work again.[/QUOTE]
So I can't do anything fun with it? Like blow up my neighbor's cat with it?
Lol, but on a serious note.
I'm not buying a new one. I'll just get a new laptop when I can.
Thanks for the input.
Laptop battery fires are extremely hazardous. Laptop batteries are composed of several cells that are sealed, unlike lead-acid batteries (ie. car batteries) that usually have plugs in the top for acid reservoirs.
When you overheat or burn a laptop battery, the electrolyte inside the individual cells in the battery will rapidly break down forming an explosive gas mixture and cause the cell in the battery to explode violently and potentially send shrapnel and chemicals everywhere. since each cell won't fail at the same time, the batteries usually explode multiple times (depending on the number of cells) making them that much more dangerous.
[QUOTE=bohb;32900047]You're dumb. Doing what you said will undoubtedly destroy the laptop and probably cause a fire.
And laptops work fine without batteries. Batteries are in them so they can be run without wall power.[/QUOTE]
Yes, supplying a laptop with the exact same voltage as the battery will kill it and make a fire.
And as stated, if the laptop works with the charger without the battery then you can do that.
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32901177]Yes, supplying a laptop with the exact same voltage as the battery will kill it and make a fire.
And as stated, if the laptop works with the charger without the battery then you can do that.[/QUOTE]
You're hilariously ignorant to how batteries supply power to laptops. First of all, 99% of laptops have batteries with different voltages than the wall adapter that powers the laptop while plugged in. Second, you're completely ignoring the battery charging circuit and battery health circuits on the laptop.
Batteries have circuitry built into them to tell the laptop the current state of the battery, which a linear power supply wouldn't do. The laptop wouldn't be able to detect it, assuming you found the right leads to apply power to. Not to mention the chance of short circuiting, or numerous dangers if the charging circuit kicked in accidentally.
[QUOTE=bohb;32901507]You're hilariously ignorant to how batteries supply power to laptops. First of all, 99% of laptops have batteries with different voltages than the wall adapter that powers the laptop while plugged in. Second, you're completely ignoring the battery charging circuit and battery health circuits on the laptop.
Batteries have circuitry built into them to tell the laptop the current state of the battery, which a linear power supply wouldn't do. The laptop wouldn't be able to detect it, assuming you found the right leads to apply power to. Not to mention the chance of short circuiting, or numerous dangers if the charging circuit kicked in accidentally.[/QUOTE]
I meant supply the battery leads with the same voltage as the battery, not the ac adapter. asshole.
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32936588]I meant supply the battery leads with the same voltage as the battery, not the ac adapter. asshole.[/QUOTE]
That is what he is talking about. You can just supply power to the adapter, and inlet no problem. Supplying annything to the battery connectors on the battery or laptop is a big NONO.
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32936588]And as stated, if the laptop works with the charger without the battery then you can do that. [/QUOTE]
I mean, I don't understand why he's calling me ignorant because if the laptop doesn't work with the adapter and no battery then why the fuck not try it. I bet it would work.
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32936675]I mean, I don't understand why he's calling me ignorant because if the laptop doesn't work with the adapter and no battery then why the fuck not try it. I bet it would work.[/QUOTE]
You aren't understanding because you aren't reading, which is why I called you ignorant. You seem to be having a better time ignoring my explanation why your idea wouldn't work and a better time flaming me.
To re-iterate why your idea [U]won't work[/U], laptops have charging and health circuits that detect the battery via circuitry on the battery. Applying direct voltage to the terminals (assuming you found the correct ones) [I]won't[/I] work because the laptop won't detect the presence of a battery and act as if one wasn't present (which there's not.)
Compounding that problem, it's hard to find a linear/switching power supply that can output the exact odd voltage of a battery. Many lithium ion batteries for laptops have fractionated voltages (like 16.3v).
Look, you're not going to convince me that just because the laptop can't detect a battery device, it won't accept and run off of the voltage provided. I've read your posts and it makes no sense that a laptop can't run without measly detection signals, and if your too thick skulled with what you think you know to even try it, then fuck off because I'm 100% sure that you haven't studied the schematics to this guy's laptop.
Also it's really not hard to find a variable voltage power supply.
We didn't get to the moon saying that it's impossible because man can't breath in a vacuum or that its too fucking cold and hot. We fixed the problem and made it work. If I had a disposable laptop like this guy, hell yeah I'd tear that shit open and make it work.
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32943353]Look, you're not going to convince me that just because the laptop can't detect a battery device, it won't accept and run off of the voltage provided. I've read your posts and it makes no sense that a laptop can't run without measly detection signals, and if your too thick skulled with what you think you know to even try it, then fuck off because I'm 100% sure that you haven't studied the schematics to this guy's laptop.
Also it's really not hard to find a variable voltage power supply.
We didn't get to the moon saying that it's impossible because man can't breath in a vacuum or that its too fucking cold and hot. We fixed the problem and made it work. If I had a disposable laptop like this guy, hell yeah I'd tear that shit open and make it work.[/QUOTE]
If this guy had the technology to goto the moon he wouldnt be asking us to fix his laptop.
Point being that you alreaddy displayed your total lack of knowledge on the subject by saying this:
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32898961] I'm not talking about just plugging the laptop into its charger because I don't think that will work without the battery. [/QUOTE] which should be 100% common knowledge that they will work without a battery.
They you proceed to give advice that could possibly set his laptop on fire.
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32943353]Look, you're not going to convince me that just because the laptop can't detect a battery device, it won't accept and run off of the voltage provided. I've read your posts and it makes no sense that a laptop can't run without measly detection signals, and if your too thick skulled with what you think you know to even try it, then fuck off because I'm 100% sure that you haven't studied the schematics to this guy's laptop.[/QUOTE]
It makes no sense to you because you have no comprehension of electronics on the component level or electricity in general. By continuing to lash out, you're just making an idiot of yourself.
And I'm pretty sure you aren't going to find a blueprint of the motherboard PCB due to them being trade secrets, of which I don't need anyway because I've repaired and built enough electronic equipment to know what will and won't work.
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32943353]Also it's really not hard to find a variable voltage power supply.[/QUOTE]
This pretty much proves my point that you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, they do make generic variable voltage linear PSUs, but they're fixed to a pre-set number of voltages. They are also almost always less than a half amp due to the nature of a linear power supplies transformer size being proportional to the amperage output. A linear PSU with the amp output level that would rival a battery would be ridiculously large (think 5+ pounds.)
[QUOTE=thegrb93;32943353]We didn't get to the moon saying that it's impossible because man can't breath in a vacuum or that its too fucking cold and hot. We fixed the problem and made it work. If I had a disposable laptop like this guy, hell yeah I'd tear that shit open and make it work.[/QUOTE]
I don't even know what you're talking about here. You're starting to make absolutely no sense and seem to just be rambling out of rage because people keep telling you that you're wrong.
You continue to miss my point. Good job.
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