Yahoo is still trying: Yahoo Reportedly Working On YouTube Competitor
64 replies, posted
[quote]
YouTube, currently ranked as the number three site on the Internet only behind Facebook Google.com according to Alexa, might by met with some major competition in the next few months. According to Re/Code, Yahoo CEO Marissa Meyer wants the site to have a much larger video presence, and it’s willing to go right after some of YouTube’s biggest stars and networks. Sources speaking with Recode claim Meyer is willing to offer “better economics,” though the exact plan isn’t quite clear at this point. The immediate goal is to poach YouTube talent with the promise for more money.
Video personalities who make a living off YouTube are apparently fed up by the site’s policies, and Yahoo is hoping to try and take advantage of that.
Yahoo executives have told video-makers and owners that the company can offer them better economics than they’re getting on YouTube, either by improving ad revenue or by offering guaranteed ad rates for their videos, Recode’s report says. Yahoo has offered extensive marketing, even on its home page, as well as allowing video producers the ability to sell advertising along with Yahoo’s sales force.
Meyer’s approach will be a little different. While YouTube is wild and free, allowing anyone with an account to upload content, it sounds as though Meyer prefers to create a network exclusive to popular video personalities, rather than letting anyone and everyone upload content. If successful, Yahoo could potentially open the platform up, but for now Meyer has her sights set on YouTube’s elite; it’s unclear which personalities and networks Yahoo has approached. As an incentive, Yahoo will reportedly offer video-makers space on its home page and on other well-trafficked Yahoo sites.
YouTube currently takes a 45 percent cut of ad revenue, Recode notes, and doesn’t offer any guarantees. Yahoo’s offering will essentially act as a content creator’s tropical utopia, and at the same time punching Google-owned YouTube right in the gut—Meyer previously worked for Google, for what that’s worth. If YouTube personalities see that, hey, others are enjoying themselves on Yahoo’s platform, there could be some sort of domino effect. That’s no doubt Meyer’s hope, though she certainly picked a pretty big competitor to go after.[/quote]
[url]http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/03/28/yahoo-reportedly-working-on-youtube-competitor/[/url]
Well good job you are gonna waste money
There's a competitor that tried to do just that. It's called Dailymotion.
No, it didn't succeed, and neither will this.
[QUOTE=Manibogi;44392972]There's a competitor that tried to do just that. It's called Dailymotion.
No, it didn't succeed, and neither will this.[/QUOTE]
And Vimeo.
I want this to succeed, but it won't.
[QUOTE=shian;44392956]Well good job you are gonna waste money[/QUOTE]
Who cares? We need someone out there who is at least going to try to compete with YouTube. YouTube's monopoly is bad because we only have one really solid choice for everyone at the moment; there's just nothing that comes close to it.
Maybe if enough companies try to compete, at least one will do something really well and will steal some ground from YouTube.
And Yahoo being as relevant as it was back in the day would be a really impressive turnaround, too.
[b]Yahube[/b]?
Competition is always good, best of luck to them
I'm not sure how they're gonna actually compete though. YouTube is mainstream and any competing video sites that do (somewhat) well had to specialize themselves (like Vimeo, which is used a lot more professionally). Dailymotion tried to be generalist as well but just kinda stopped gaining ground sometime around 2009/2010
This might be a good thing considering how scummy Youtube's been lately.
hey if it gives people more than half of their monetization money like youtube does, and doesnt have an automated copyright system, then people could join it.
It wont though.
it's good that they're trying though.
The only way this will work is if they make something that takes the best parts of Youtube and leaves out the crap Google's been doing with it.
And even then it still probably won't work.
some of you guys seems to be very pessimistic regarding this. I know a fair share of people who've been waiting for a alternative to YouTube. if Yahoo can pull it off, no clue, but one thing is certain and that is that they most likely have the capacity.
Hope they succeed.
Youtube doesn't give a shit anymore about it's users because they know there's nowhere else to go to.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;44393015]And Vimeo.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't call Vimeo a youtube clone.
Youtube has quantity, Vimeo has quality.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;44393015]And Vimeo.[/QUOTE]
Vimeo is actually quite nice.. I see a lot of small bands/independent artists and stuff use it because it looks a bit more professional (and I agree, to be honest).
I dunno, maybe a p2p based streaming service would work well in the future.
Edit: I shouldn't post things I don't understand.
With the Youtube layout changing every 6 months and new restrictions being imposed about the same time; I'd like to see a new service.
Even if it doesn't have a bunch of bullshit attached to it, the community will still probably be shit.
For some reason I feel Yahoo's service would have the same downsides as Youtube.
[QUOTE=KnightVista;44393140]With the Youtube layout changing every 6 months and new restrictions being imposed about the same time; I'd like to see a new service.[/QUOTE]
I used to shrug off and even defend a lot of the changes but Youtube is REALLY rising my bile recently.
Instead of asking me if I don't want to by any chance log into my google+ enabled account every now and then, it just automatically logs me into it now and I have to go and explicitly change my account back to the original Youtube one.
I really wish for some community driven startup to take off, but hosting and mainly streaming massive amounts of videos is very infrastructure intensive and you need either a big cash reserve or immediate source of income to even just stay afloat.
[QUOTE=PredGD;44393076]it's good that they're trying though.[/QUOTE]
True that. If they succeed and are actually able to compete, YouTube will have to up it's game. Whilst unity promotes harmony, a monopoly causes stagnation, for if you don't have to compete, you don't have to evolve and improve. It's the same thing that's handicapped American internet for so long, with fat ISPs thinking they can rest on their laurels.
Competition breeds innovation, and advances humanity as a whole. Say what you will about the Cold War, a fair bit of technological advancement came from the international competition of the Space Race, even if the possibility of nuclear war threatened to make the struggles all for nought. Speaking of which, the investment into creating fallout shelters and protection against nuclear devastation brought us closer to advanced defences against similar destructive events like asteroid strikes. And with the riddles and ciphers of the German war machine around 70-75 years ago, the need for more advanced machines to help crack ciphers and interpret messages helped advance computer technology quite a bit, thanks in no small part to people like Dr Alan Turing (may he rest in peace).
Regardless, YouTube won't be able to afford all these screwups and unwanted changes if they have a competitor who's out-doing them, which in turn benefits us all since we either have a better alternative or the current dominant platform is force to improve for the sake of survival.
yahoo's video search is actually much better than google's
With all the youtube/google+ things going on I'll be glad if we get an alternative.
Give it a HUMAN CONTROLLED copyright system and allow a decent monetization plan plus give networks the ability to do their own plans but enforce some restrictions to those plans so Machinima can go get fucked and it might, just might have a chance.
Id rather have Microsoft make something against Youtube.
They got the money, the Infrastructure etc.
Bing is already beginning to get almost as good as google in terms of searching.
[QUOTE=Skanic;44393429]Id rather have Microsoft make something against Youtube.
They got the money, the Infrastructure etc.
Bing is already beginning to get almost as good as google in terms of searching.[/QUOTE]
Bing is still utter shit.
Not even Google could beat YouTube
EDIT: I'm not joking, Google bought Youtube because it beat Google Video.
Vimeo isn't a you-tube competitor and it never was
There are people who use Vimeo for specific things and youtube for other things
TBH if they capitalized on the problems people have with Youtube like copyright issues and the ugly ass design, they WILL come out on top
Could probably succeed if some big youtubers switched over, but they won't because they'd lose viewers along the way.
Yahoo will fuck this up.
Trust me.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.