• Linux enthusiasts rejoice as online throttling and site-blocking are to be outlawed in Europe
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[QUOTE]ISPs will be barred from blocking or throttling customers' access to services that rival their own under new net neutrality rules that could soon be enforced across Europe. The European Commission said that around 100 million Europeans face restrictions on their internet services because ISPs are reluctant give customers access to services which compete with their own offerings. Plans to mandate net neutrality now being put forward by the EC's digital chief, Commission vice president Neelie Kroes, would prevent anti-competitive blocking of rival services. Currently only the Netherlands and Slovenia have net neutrality guarantees but Kroes said she wants similar rights for the rest of Europe.[/QUOTE] Source: [URL]http://www.zdnet.com/online-throttling-and-site-blocking-to-be-outlawed-in-europe-under-net-neutrality-plan-7000016324/[/URL] Hopefully this will also apply to the UK for the Linux enthusiasts amongst us.
Had no idea this was actually going on. Anyway, fantastic that this is being put into law, especially given that governments usually seem to have outdated views on the Internet.
Oh sweet jesus, please let this apply to the UK as well. Virgin Media are absolute cunts about this.
Aren't these also the same laws that are going to get rid of roaming fees as well? [url]http://www.itproportal.com/2013/05/30/eu-unveils-net-neutrality-plans-hopes-end-roaming-fees-2014/[/url]
Hm, would this overrule the UK ban on The Pirate Bay, Kickass Torrents and the like?
[QUOTE=ben1066;40899468]Hm, would this overrule the UK ban on The Pirate Bay, Kickass Torrents and the like?[/QUOTE] I wouldn't get excited. Torrent sites are not blocked by ISP's just because they provide a competing service, they're blocked because those services themselves have been deemed illegal. This probably means they can't throttle your speed back to discourage you from using Netflix over their TV channel package, not that they can't block you from accessing illegal stuff.
[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;40899281]Had no idea this was actually going on. Anyway, fantastic that this is being put into law, especially given that governments usually seem to have outdated views on the Internet.[/QUOTE] Article says they're not done discussing whether it's gonna be a regulation or a recommendation. Recommendations aren't binding.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;40899525]I wouldn't get excited. Torrent sites are not blocked by ISP's just because they provide a competing service, they're blocked because those services themselves have been deemed illegal. This probably means they can't throttle your speed back to discourage you from using Netflix over their TV channel package, not that they can't block you from accessing illegal stuff.[/QUOTE] Not that it matters anyway, it's easy to find complete mirror sites for both such websites.
Will this have any affect on throttling of bandwidth after downloading so many gigabytes?
[QUOTE=Deiru;40899339]Oh sweet jesus, please let this apply to the UK as well. Virgin Media are absolute cunts about this.[/QUOTE] The law isn't stopping capping at peak times, but it's stopping capping to rival services.
[QUOTE=Reshy;40899966]Will this have any affect on throttling of bandwidth after downloading so many gigabytes?[/QUOTE]Probably not. This is specifically against throttling of connections to their market rivals; this is primarily targeted at anti-competitive practices.
[QUOTE=BAZ;40899977]The law isn't stopping capping at peak times, but it's stopping capping to rival services.[/QUOTE] This is what I dont get, whywould a company capp to compete, like surelly the winning company will be the one with best service/fastest internet? [editline]4th June 2013[/editline] Aslso iff this goes throught does it mean they wont be able to block access to the official LinuxBay?
[QUOTE=Richy19;40900529]This is what I dont get, whywould a company capp to compete, like surelly the winning company will be the one with best service/fastest internet? [/QUOTE] They're trying to keep their consumers using only their own services. If they throttle back the consumer's bandwidth when using competing services, their own services will seem like a better alternative.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;40900678]They're trying to keep their consumers using only their own services. If they throttle back the consumer's bandwidth when using competing services, their own services will seem like a better alternative.[/QUOTE] if i get x speed on hulu, and x/2 speed on netflix they hope that i'll use hulu and not netflix
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;40900698]if i get x speed on hulu, and x/2 speed on netflix they hope that i'll use hulu and not netflix[/QUOTE] Exactly, it boils down to not giving the consumer a fair chance to determine the best service.
yeah this is pretty cool and all but did you hear? the eu had a law that banned, get this, you won't believe this, holy shit man wait til you get a load of what I'm about to tell you; it banned, yeah, it banned, right? ok, it banned, yeah, fucking wait for it man, this shit'll blow your mind, it banned, it fucking banned [b]BANANAS THAT WERE TOO BENT[/b] what are these fucking sausage eaters trying to do to our country???? [h2]farage 2k15[/h2]
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;40900698]if i get x speed on hulu, and x/2 speed on netflix they hope that i'll use hulu and not netflix[/QUOTE] Wait, are hulu and netflix owned by the ISP's? if not how can one throuttle your bandwidth hen using the other?
[QUOTE=ben1066;40899468]Hm, would this overrule the UK ban on The Pirate Bay, Kickass Torrents and the like?[/QUOTE] No because they are blocked by court order. I would love to see the EU rule that the pirate bay is a competitor to TV providers though, it would be a hilarious day. [editline]4th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Richy19;40901051]Wait, are hulu and netflix owned by the ISP's? if not how can one throuttle your bandwidth hen using the other?[/QUOTE] It seems that in the US ISPs have arrangements with some content providers where they do some QoS stuff to throttle the least favourable service. It [I]apparently[/I] happens in the UK with some ISPs throttling certain on demand TV services.
[QUOTE=Akuma_lektro;40899901]Article says they're not done discussing whether it's gonna be a regulation or a recommendation. Recommendations aren't binding.[/QUOTE] Ah balls, I missed that bit. Here's hoping, then...
Luckily TalkTalk don't give a shit and still haven't blocked thepiratebay.sx and thepiratebay.is. These new laws should be pretty awesome though and I'd love to see the MPAA and BPI try and get through the EU.
Why Linux enthusiasts specifically?
I think this is about the German Telekom throttling every VOD service except their own. Fuck them!
[QUOTE=Egonny;40901650]Why Linux enthusiasts specifically?[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm failing to see the Linux relation here at all? Or am I missing something?
linux distros guise
[QUOTE=Drakehawke;40902451]Yeah I'm failing to see the Linux relation here at all? Or am I missing something?[/QUOTE] I'd take a wild guess and say the author probably thought it might prevent ISPs doing things like throttling back traffic over things like the bittorrent protocol, making it easier to download large quantities of Linux distros.
I don't get it, what does Linux have to do with this?
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;40902882]I don't get it, what does Linux have to do with this?[/QUOTE] We're the only ones that care?
We so need this in Australia
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