Healthcare Bill Lobbyist says Medical Marijuana is "Like Taking Meth"
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[quote]Illinois residents with chronic health conditions which can be alleviated by marijuana are urging state lawmakers to let their state join 14 others, including Michigan and New Jersey, that have legalized cannabis use for medicinal purposes.
The Illinois House adjourned Friday before acting on legislation legalizing medical marijuana which has already passed the state Senate, reports Dean Olsen at The State Journal-Register. But advocates say they will continue to push for Senate Bill 1381, which they say safeguards against abuse of medical marijuana and criminal involvement in growing and distributing the herb.
The usual opponents, including, of course, law enforcement organizations, have lined up in opposition to the bill, citing the same, tired old arguments against medical marijuana.
"There's a lot of stuff in marijuana that's not good for you," claimed Limey Nargelenas, a lobbyist for the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police.
"It's like people taking meth," Nargelenas said in one of the most ridiculous statements ever made about medical pot. "People feel a lot better after ingesting methamphetamine."
"We believe you're putting it in the hands of people interested in being responsible citizens," said Brian Mueller, director of Illinois Safe Access, based in Chicago.
Supporters of the bill say studies published in peer-reviewed journals show that cannabis provides medicinal relief to patients with cancer, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, Crohn's disease and other serious conditions.
It's clear that medical marijuana has benefits, such as easing nausea in cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, said Dr. Eric Larson at Seattle's Group Health Research Institute and co-author of a 1999 Institute of Medicine report on medical marijuana.
But research on cannabis has been hindered by the federal Schedule I classification of marijuana as a "completely illegal drug," Dr. Larson said.
Advocates say the legalization of medical marijuana would pave the way for more scientific research.
State Rep. Lou Lang (D-Skokie) said last week that it appeared the Illinois bill is a few shorts of the 60 required for passage in the House. He said he won't call it for a vote unless he knows that the measure will pass.
Lang said he may call for a vote after the November election and before newly elected lawmakers take office in January -- which highlights the perceived political risk of supporting medical marijuana, even though a recent national poll shows that more than 80 percent of American voters back the idea.
"What I have to overcome is the basic political calculation that many of my colleagues take," Lang said. "Ultimately, this is a health care bill. It's not a bill about drugs. I'm here for people's health care and pain. We should do this controlled piece of legislation... to help people."[/quote]
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Hooray for ignorance.
Everyday 20,000,000.2 people die of marijuana! It's a fact!
i think the only way to die from weed is to be allergic to it or have asthma
Lets force him to smoke some weed, then take meth and let him revise his statement.
Meth is a much harsher drug
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21899323]Meth is a much harsher drug[/QUOTE]
That's why this statement made news. The lobbyist is ignorant.
[QUOTE=Valdor;21898979]Everyday 20,000,000.2 people die of marijuana! It's a fact![/QUOTE]
Oh my goodness! BAN IT, IT COULD BE UTILIZED BY TERRORISTS TO DESTROY THE US AND EVERYTHING WE LOVE :patriot:
[QUOTE=Karbinev2;21898997]i think the only way to die from weed is to be allergic to it or have asthma[/QUOTE]
I´ve actually heard that it had helped some people wth asthma.
[QUOTE=Karbinev2;21898997]i think the only way to die from weed is to be allergic to it or have asthma[/QUOTE]
Weed actually has components in it which supress asthma.
And i've never heard of anyone being allergic to it.
[QUOTE=TehKaboose;21899372]I´ve actually heard that it had helped some people wth asthma.[/QUOTE]
It does. Marijuana helps open your airways. :smile:
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And I also know someone who IS allergic. She breaks out in hives and her throat swells up.
The guy who said this has got to be like an 87 year old angry conservative
Pot isn't like meth
But on meth it is
Yeah, using one drug is like using another.
Seriously, makes perfect sense.
[img]http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/meth.jpg[/img]
[b]This just in:[/b] Angry old conservatives are still making straw man arguments to support banning marijuana. Comparisons to child pornography coming at 11.
We should ban swimming pools too, becuse it's the same as swimming in battery acid that's fillednwith acid resistant sharks.
[QUOTE=CjienX;21899745]We should ban swimming pools too, becuse it's the same as swimming in battery acid that's fillednwith acid resistant sharks.[/QUOTE]
I'm all for decriminalisation of drugs, but this is a terrible argument for drgus.
More retarded people that don't have any idea what they are talking about.
healthcare and lobbyist, why am i not surprised
[QUOTE=Karbinev2;21898997]i think the only way to die from weed is to be allergic to it or have asthma[/QUOTE]
I have asthma i'm fine.
:cawg:
Another person that rants about marijuana without trying it.
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It's like hating Hitler without knowing what he's even famous for, but just hating him because he's hated.
Haters.
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Not implying that marijuana is Hitler for fucks sake.
[quote]"There's a lot of stuff in marijuana that's not good for you," claimed Limey Nargelenas, a lobbyist for the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police.[/quote]
What kind of argument is that. Might as well use the "smoking anything is bad argument next". So with this argument, the counter argument could be made that a pure form of thc can be extracted without all these "bad chemicals". And this is already easily done to make edibles. So in this case, would marijuana be good for patients if the bad stuff was taken out. I guarantee that they'd come out with another dumb argument.
[quote]"It's like people taking meth," Nargelenas said in one of the most ridiculous statements ever made about medical pot. "People feel a lot better after ingesting methamphetamine."[/quote]
Ah, taking that tactic. Associate it with a drug that is known to be really bad. Just like how marijuana was associated with Mexicans, and then with crack. History repeats.
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[QUOTE=FPChris;21900058]Another person that rants about marijuana without trying it.[/QUOTE]
Trying it has nothing to do with it. The issue is that the facts are not being looked at. There are a vast amount of studies showing the effects of marijuana, there are a large number of patients who have been prescribed marijuana with positive results, there is an overwhelming amount of doctors who support marijuana being used for certain medical reasons. Facts are all that matters.
It's true, it causes scabs that you then pick off and eat for another buzz.
[QUOTE=Karbinev2;21898997]i think the only way to die from weed is to be allergic to it or have asthma[/QUOTE]
Yes some people are allergic, but you can "overdose" on Marijuana, as in there is a limit to how much THC your body can take. For Marijuana to become fatal, a person would have to consume 40,000 times the amount of THC required to get them high.... there is a catch, it needs to be consumed within one hour to be fatal soooo.... good luck!
[QUOTE=EtBuh;21902144]Yes some people are allergic, but you can "overdose" on Marijuana, as in there is a limit to how much THC your body can take. For Marijuana to become fatal, a person would have to consume 40,000 times the amount of THC required to get them high.... there is a catch, it needs to be consumed within one hour to be fatal soooo.... good luck![/QUOTE]
you need to consume 1500 pounds of marijuana in 20 minutes to die.
Now I know what taking meth is like....
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;21902168]you need to consume 1500 pounds of marijuana in 20 minutes to die.[/QUOTE]
You need to consume 1500 pounds of anything in 20 minutes to die
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;21902209]You need to consume 1500 pounds of anything in 20 minutes to die[/QUOTE]
thats the joke.
Meth is some fucked up shit.
Ahh this is funny as hell. What happened to the old saying "don't knock it until you tried it?" I love how they use the "but its not good for you" arguement. There are SOOOOO many counter arguements for that its not even funny. Especially since this is America. Lets make a list, Alcohol, Cigarretts, Fast Food....I could do this all day.
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