• GM recalling 370,000 trucks
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[URL="http://http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140110/AUTO0103/301100108/GM-recalling-370-000-full-size-trucks-fire-risks?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE"]http://http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140110/AUTO0103/301100108/GM-recalling-370-000-full-size-trucks-fire-risks?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE]Source[/URL] Apparently they messed up on the part of the computer that cuts cylinders when the trucks are idling, causing them to overheat and catch fire. Oh, and my favorite line of the article: “Every company that has had a major recall bounces back,” she said in a telephone interview. “The timing may not be great with Ford showing off a what’s supposed to be a really cool F-150” at the auto show next week. :v:
Should've bought a RAM.
I wonder if GM will ever make something that isn't a gaudy tryhard pile of fat angles and unreliability to only be bought by minorities in 10 years
Since when are recalls big deal? They happen with all manufacturer, and the worst I remember off, was Toyota's sticky full throttle :v:
Just a note, you put http:// twice in the OP link. Firefox interprets it as [url]www.http.com/[/url] It's often you see recalls, but usually they aren't quite as serious as this
Serious recalls are bond to happen anyways, with new generation of any cars with any manufacturer. It's also part of the risk of buying a new generation vehicle at its first year. In the end, people will head to the dealer, dealer will plug in their Tech 2, re-flash PCM with new software, 15 minutes later you're on your way, free of charge.
Fixed link in OP [url]http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140110/AUTO0103/301100108/GM-recalling-370-000-full-size-trucks-fire-risks[/url]
[QUOTE=arsefroth;43505619]I wonder if GM will ever make something that isn't a gaudy tryhard pile of fat angles and unreliability to only be bought by minorities in 10 years[/QUOTE] Meanwhile, my 88 Chevy with probably at least 260k miles still runs like a top.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;43505229]Should've bought a RAM.[/QUOTE] whoops forgot to put the /s after my sentence. I was joking.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;43506798]whoops forgot to put the /s after my sentence. I was joking.[/QUOTE] Yeah, why would anyone buy a Ram when you can buy an F-Series :v:
[QUOTE=Del91;43506430]Meanwhile, my 88 Chevy with probably at least 260k miles still runs like a top.[/QUOTE] And my 99 S10 with 147k miles sounds like shes straight from the factory
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;43507464]Yeah, why would anyone buy a Ram when you can buy an F-Series :v:[/QUOTE] And have the cruise control button catch fire too? Lol I think not.
I can't edit the OP for some reason... [QUOTE=WolvesSoulZ;43505656]Since when are recalls big deal? They happen with all manufacturer, and the worst I remember off, was Toyota's sticky full throttle :v:[/QUOTE] That's why I tagged it humor...... Also, I'm a ford guy, hence why it's humor to me....
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;43507512]And my 99 S10 with 147k miles sounds like shes straight from the factory[/QUOTE] Same with my '00 Blazer with 161K on the odometer
Same with my '02 F-150 with 281k on the odo. It's still pretty amazing that they've been using this technology for years and are still making small mistakes like this, and I'm surprised it wasn't found during testing.
Only a few trucks actually had the issue happen, might be a hit or miss, easy to pass through testing. And honestly, if anyone wants to debate who makes the best truck, just go with the company you fanboy for. They all have problems anyways.
[QUOTE=WolvesSoulZ;43512268]Only a few trucks actually had the issue happen, might be a hit or miss, easy to pass through testing. And honestly, if anyone wants to debate who makes the best truck, just go with the company you fanboy for. They all have problems anyways.[/QUOTE] Like how ford makes some pretty crappy clutches and shifting sucks.
[QUOTE=WolvesSoulZ;43505656]Since when are recalls big deal? They happen with all manufacturer, and the worst I remember off, was Toyota's sticky full throttle :v:[/QUOTE] Which turned out to be either aftermarket floormats jamming the throttle or blocking the brakes OR the drivers being idiots and confusing those two in a autotragic car.
[QUOTE=Biaxailemperor;43511844]Same with my '00 Blazer with 161K on the odometer[/QUOTE] '01 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 184k. Had a few minor problems that were easily and cheaply fixed with a few trips to the auto parts store. Besides that, runs great. The 4.0 straight 6 is a great engine.
It's great because chrysler didn't design it
[QUOTE=O Cheerios O;43512792]Which turned out to be either aftermarket floormats jamming the throttle or blocking the brakes OR the drivers being idiots and confusing those two in a autotragic car.[/QUOTE] They had to have made some horrible design choices for a floor mat to make a throttle stick. Im assuming most owners of the affected cars would just walk into Walmart and pick a mat. Ive seen the mats at Walmart, most are the same. In my car, to block the brake using a standard mat, id have to roll the entire mat up, and jam it under the brake pedal. I cant even imagine a way to make the throttle stick open enough to have an issue In the brake block scenario, id just have to look down and go 'lolwhoops, rolled up my mat under the brake' and move it using my foot. In fact, in all the vehicles ive driven, theres been a lot of space down there and youd have to purposely roll up the mat to make any pedal issue happen [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] After researching, the affected cars have a pedal setup i havent seen, and the pedal issue is with floor mats i have never used. I have not used a car with a highly curved pedal, and i have not used floor mats that are shaped like these. All the mats i have used go way beyond the pedal. [t]http://imgur.com/1aTZs7d.jpg[/t] [t]http://imgur.com/UNNnQ1M.jpg[/t] In my eyes, its a bit of a poor design between Toyota and mat manufacturers. The curved pedal is pretty odd, and the curve makes it more likely to get hung up on things. As far as the mat, its like they tried to copy an oem mat and then tried to make it universal. It should either be oem copy, or universal where you cut it to fit
Nobody remembers when multitudes of Ford vehicles were recalled when the cruise control switches were randomly catching fire. At least an engine I expect to light fire, but a button?... I don't deal with new cars specifically for this reason, I'd rather someone else deal with the dealership visits for the first xx,000 miles then I'll buy the car from them, at a much lower price. win-win.
[QUOTE=FordLord;43517141]They had to have made some horrible design choices for a floor mat to make a throttle stick. Im assuming most owners of the affected cars would just walk into Walmart and pick a mat. Ive seen the mats at Walmart, most are the same. In my car, to block the brake using a standard mat, id have to roll the entire mat up, and jam it under the brake pedal. I cant even imagine a way to make the throttle stick open enough to have an issue In the brake block scenario, id just have to look down and go 'lolwhoops, rolled up my mat under the brake' and move it using my foot. In fact, in all the vehicles ive driven, theres been a lot of space down there and youd have to purposely roll up the mat to make any pedal issue happen [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] After researching, the affected cars have a pedal setup i havent seen, and the pedal issue is with floor mats i have never used. I have not used a car with a highly curved pedal, and i have not used floor mats that are shaped like these. All the mats i have used go way beyond the pedal. [t]http://imgur.com/1aTZs7d.jpg[/t] [t]http://imgur.com/UNNnQ1M.jpg[/t] In my eyes, its a bit of a poor design between Toyota and mat manufacturers. The curved pedal is pretty odd, and the curve makes it more likely to get hung up on things. As far as the mat, its like they tried to copy an oem mat and then tried to make it universal. It should either be oem copy, or universal where you cut it to fit[/QUOTE] Toyota's setup is common on cars with electronic gas pedal and servo actuated throttle-body.
Most cars are drive by wire now. Most cars doesn't have retarded pedal. :v:
Ive only driven one vehicle that was drive-by-wire, the pedal was nothing like that. The Toyota pedal is retarded for sure After even more research, the floor mat was only half the problem. Apparently, the part of the pedal that adds artificial friction to simulate a real pedal would sometimes be too much and actually hold the pedal down. Further into details, they chose nylon to add friction. Nylon absorbs moisture and will swell, adding too much friction and jamming the pedal. Toyota's fix was to add a metal bar to pull the teeth out some and reduce friction. They also added a fail safe to newer cars, when the brake is pressed it automatically zeros out the gas pedal [t]http://i.imgur.com/Oos5yVR.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=FordLord;43522578]Ive only driven one vehicle that was drive-by-wire, the pedal was nothing like that. The Toyota pedal is retarded for sure[/QUOTE] All Toyota pedals are retarded unless if you are in a wheelchair configured Sienna with a Chrysler exhaust(don't ask how the hell that happened, but it did)
My car is drive by wire and the pedal is exactly the same as it was on my old cable one was, it's just toyota that had this weird thing going on.
My car was made in 2010 but is not drive by wire, is there even anything other than a Crown Vic that new that isn't drive by wire?
I did some ghetto pos thing the other day like a Hyundai or whatever that wasn't DbW. You might wanna have a peek at your throttle body, Tosh. 05+ Vic/Marquis/Towncar should be DbW. Unless you have a weird conversion or something it'll be electronic. That being said, pretty much any DbW car is very tough to even notice the difference. I've hopped through many, and thus far the only one that I would consider to be 'really fucking shitty' would be Volkwagen's DbW system. The Beetles we have for Geeksquad are trash, damn near a half second delay. And that's from just pulling them in/out of the garage that I've noticed it. Looks like Jeep's right there with GM in the 'producing shit with problems' department :) [url]http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/07/jeep-grand-cherokee-electrical-issue-recall/[/url]
[QUOTE=clutch2;43529071]You might wanna have a peek at your throttle body, Tosh. 05+ Vic/Marquis/Towncar should be DbW. Unless you have a weird conversion or something it'll be electronic.[/QUOTE] Wikipedia says that only 2005+ Police Interceptors were DBW, though seeing as how late in the production of the CV many parts were shared, it's entirely possible mine is drive by wire.
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