• Gearbox files suit against 3D Realms and Interceptor over unauthorized use of Duke Nukem license
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[url]http://www.shacknews.com/article/83231/gearbox-files-suit-against-3d-realms-and-interceptor-over-unauthorized[/url]
well cant say i exactly blame gearbox, its their IP now, not realms'/interceptors unless theres something i dont know of
Fuck off Gearbox. [editline]23rd February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Furnost;44015727]well cant say i exactly blame gearbox, its their IP now, not realms'/interceptors unless theres something i dont know of[/QUOTE] That is true, but I really want this game to be made. And Gearbox are dicks (ACM for example)
3DR seems like the asshole here, not gearbox
if they wanted to make another game they should have gone the proper channels and bought it back, or not have even sold it in the first place, they only have themselves to blame
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;44015732]ACM for example[/QUOTE] Let's not mention that plague, after what it's done to all humanity.
this is so ironic lmfao.
[url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/03/15/from-codehunters-to-aliens-colonial-marines-how-gearbox-has-become-one-of-the-most-controversial-studios-in-the-industry/]Gearbox is a terrible company.[/url]
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;44016151][url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/03/15/from-codehunters-to-aliens-colonial-marines-how-gearbox-has-become-one-of-the-most-controversial-studios-in-the-industry/]Gearbox is a terrible company.[/url][/QUOTE] It's pretty sad how they ended up pouring all the money sega gave them into pop culture referencelands 2
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;44015845]3DR seems like the asshole here, not gearbox[/QUOTE] Yeah, you can't just take IP somebody else owns and make a game out of it, when when called on it go "Yeah it's not ours, but we're going to release it anyway"
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;44016151][URL="http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/03/15/from-codehunters-to-aliens-colonial-marines-how-gearbox-has-become-one-of-the-most-controversial-studios-in-the-industry/"]Gearbox is a terrible company.[/URL][/QUOTE] Yeah but that has nothing to do with this situation at hand. In this situation, Gearbox is completely within their right to file this suit as 3DR, after selling the rights to this ip, continued to have this game developed. 3DR themselves literally admitted that they did this fully knowing it was infringement.
Just because a company makes some shit decisions regarding an unrelated game doesn't mean the copyrights they hold are void. 3D Realms is far more incompetent than Gearbox could ever be anyway.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;44016267]It's pretty sad how they ended up pouring all the money sega gave them into pop culture referencelands 2[/QUOTE] I loved the game in the end though; they'll never be able to get over the shit they've pulled for a while. This really sucks because I wanted to atleast see what the game is, wonder if it'll get leaked
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;44016324]I loved the game in the end though; they'll never be able to get over the shit they've pulled for a while. This really sucks because I wanted to atleast see what the game is, wonder if it'll get leaked[/QUOTE] too bad i can't even finish the game without cringing all the way through due to the minecraft refernces and other refernces i think its stupid to refernce main stream games still i loved borderlands i played over 300 hours and i could not get enough of it
fuck gearbox fuck em to hell
[QUOTE=murple;44016666]fuck gearbox fuck em to hell[/QUOTE]Why? They're entirely in the right.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;44016676]Why? They're entirely in the right.[/QUOTE] I couldn't care less if they where a possible good game could have come in I was exited for this then these fucks pull this shit they disappointed me with forever I fucking hate borderlands and aliens colonial marines is a god damn abomination to have these untalented fucks pull this infuriates me
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;44016676]Why? They're entirely in the right.[/QUOTE] And how exactly do you know the exact details of the contract between 3D Realms and Gearbox?
itt: people think making dodgy games nulls your copyrights
Interceptor NEEDS to bring Duke back from the dead, I trust they'd make a good Duke Nukem game after the Rise of the Triad revival. The Duke Nukem license is as good as dead while it's under Gearbox's control.
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;44016739]And how exactly do you know the exact details of the contract between 3D Realms and Gearbox?[/QUOTE] "Recently — and without consulting the Duke IP's actual owner, Gearbox" "Apparently, after selling its Duke Nukem IP rights to Gearbox in 2010, 3DR sought to privately convince others that the sale never happened." "By attempting to license the unlicensable, assign the unassignable, and effectively re-sell the exclusive rights that Gearbox already purchased in 2010," I mean call me crazy but personally I wouldn't really want to lie on an official document that I'd like to use to sue a couple of companies.
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;44016739]And how exactly do you know the exact details of the contract between 3D Realms and Gearbox?[/QUOTE] Because if the IP was licensed out, Gearbox wouldn't be suing them? This is kinda basic shit, the court case wouldn't even see the light of day if the contract a loophole or clause in it that let 3D Realms make one last game under the IP. Lawyers on both sides aren't stupid, and 3D Realms even admitted in a response to Gearbox's C&D that they knew they weren't allowed to make the game.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;44016899][B]Because if the IP was licensed out, Gearbox wouldn't be suing them? [/B]This is kinda basic shit, the court case wouldn't even see the light of day if the contract a loophole or clause in it that let 3D Realms make one last game under the IP. Lawyers on both sides aren't stupid, and 3D Realms even admitted in a response to Gearbox's C&D that they knew they weren't allowed to make the game.[/QUOTE] backwards reasoning doesn't prove shit
[QUOTE=3221drdew;44016390]too bad i can't even finish the game without cringing all the way through due to the minecraft refernces and other refernces i think its stupid to refernce main stream games [/QUOTE] I keep forgetting people like this actually exist. Wah axton says cool story bro once in a blue moon and theres a minecraft side area not required for game completion game is ruined.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;44016899]Because if the IP was licensed out, Gearbox wouldn't be suing them? This is kinda basic shit, the court case wouldn't even see the light of day if the contract a loophole or clause in it that let 3D Realms make one last game under the IP. Lawyers on both sides aren't stupid, and 3D Realms even admitted in a response to Gearbox's C&D that they knew they weren't allowed to make the game.[/QUOTE] And I somehow feel like if they knew they weren't allowed to do this then they wouldn't have wasted the time and money of a development studio to begin making such a thing either.
You know, that site doesnt actually mention duke nukem a single time except for in the twitter part
[QUOTE=3221drdew;44016390]too bad i can't even finish the game without cringing all the way through due to the minecraft refernces and other refernces i think its stupid to refernce main stream games still i loved borderlands i played over 300 hours and i could not get enough of it[/QUOTE] why do you type like this you are not a poet
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;44017101]And I somehow feel like if they knew they weren't allowed to do this then they wouldn't have wasted the time and money of a development studio to begin making such a thing either.[/QUOTE] Except they DID know. When Gearbox sent their first C&D letter over this game, 3DR actually replied with a legal declaration which acknowledges breached copyright and gives an apology. [quote="3D Realms"]I am aware that Exhibit 2.2 of the APA states that “all future development in the Duke IP” is a development right exclusively held by Gearbox. As such, only Gearbox has possessed the right to use the Duke IP in the development of any and all new Duke Nukem games, ancillary projects and materials since February 2010. Because such rights belong to Gearbox alone, development efforts such as 3DR’s “Duke Nukem: Mass Destruction” effort with others was not only unauthorized, but a material infringement of the Gearbox’s rights. I apologize to Gearbox for the infringement and breach represented by my efforts.[/quote] It's all right here in the legal document: [url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/208676148/GEARBOX-SOFTWARE-v-3D-REALMS-ENTERTAINMENT-and-INTERCEPTOR-ENTERTAINMENT[/url] I really can't see how anyone can be on 3DR's side in this. Just because Gearbox has done some shitty things (and they have done some SHITTY things; Colonial Marines will never be forgiven) doesn't mean they don't have rights to the IP they bought. If 3DR wanted to make another Duke game then they shouldn't have sold Duke. It's as simple as that.
As much as I dislike Gearbox's prior actions and their "sitting" on the duke license, they own the rights so it is theirs. On top of that I don't trust 3DR with anything anymore because most of the people of talent departed from them after 2002.
[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;44016745]itt: people think making dodgy games nulls your copyrights[/QUOTE] how about we don't treat it like they're 100% right or wrong gearbox have the shittiest practices in the gaming market gearbox is in the right in this one instance gearbox are still gigantic property thieves
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