US and Canadian jets intercept Russian Aircraft in ADIZ
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[quote]COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — Two F-22 fighter jets intercepted six Russian military airplanes that neared the western coast of Alaska, military officials said Friday.
Lt. Col. Michael Jazdyk, a spokesman for the North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, said the U.S. jets intercepted the planes about 55 nautical miles from the Alaskan coast at about 7 p.m. Pacific time Wednesday.
The Russian planes were identified as two IL-78 refueling tankers, two Mig-31 fighter jets and two Bear long-range bombers. They looped south and returned to their base in Russia after the U.S. jets were scrambled.
At about 1:30 a.m. Thursday, two Canadian CF-18 fighter jets intercepted two of the long-range bombers about 40 nautical miles off the Canadian coastline in the Beaufort Sea.
In both cases, the Russian planes entered the Air Defense Identification Zone, which extends about 200 miles from the coastline. They did not enter sovereign airspace of the United States or Canada.
Jazdyk said the fighter jets were scrambled "basically to let those aircraft know that we see them, and in case of a threat, to let them know we are there to protect our sovereign airspace."
In the past five years, jets under NORAD's command have intercepted more than 50 Russian bombers approaching North American airspace.[/quote]
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/us-canadian-jets-intercept-8-russian-aircraft-232846452.html[/url]
Well the Russian dick waving is getting old...
[QUOTE=Beluntz;46027490]Well the Russian dick waving is getting old...[/QUOTE]
Russia is the guy in international politics who is an ass to everyone because he has to compensate for his small cock.
It's kind of odd and scary how the article specifies how more than 50 bombers have been intercepted, and hasn't gotten a response from Russia as to why (or perhaps we have, but not necessarily public).
[QUOTE=mastoner20;46027780]It's kind of odd and scary how the article specifies how more than 50 bombers have been intercepted, and hasn't gotten a response from Russia as to why (or perhaps we have, but not necessarily public).[/QUOTE]
Dickwaving at 50,000 feet over Alaska has pretty much been the standard of u.s. Russian relations since like 1950, if they weren't testing our airspace and suddenly pulled everything back then we should get worried
[QUOTE=SexualShark;46027541]Russia is the guy in international politics who is an ass to everyone because he has to compensate for his small cock.[/QUOTE]
Or be the one in the room with the hardest abs and the biggest body.
[QUOTE=mastoner20;46027780]It's kind of odd and scary how the article specifies how more than 50 bombers have been intercepted, and hasn't gotten a response from Russia as to why (or perhaps we have, but not necessarily public).[/QUOTE]
Don't get worried. It's happened all the time since the soviet union. It's basically tradition.
Man what is with Russia and militarism.
Probably the same thing that's with the United States and militarism?
[QUOTE=Magman77;46028431]Probably the same thing that's with the United States and militarism?[/QUOTE]
Might be weird but I mostly see the USA as a more moderate Russia with more allies when it comes to foreign policy
Example would be we're taught that invading iraq was justified to protect people from oppressive leaders. And russians are told that invading crimea was justified to protect people from oppressive leaders.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46028479]Might be weird but I mostly see the USA as a more moderate Russia with more allies when it comes to foreign policy
Example would be we're taught that invading iraq was justified to protect people from oppressive leaders. And russians are told that invading crimea was justified to protect people from oppressive leaders.[/QUOTE]
The difference being that Russia took Crimea for themselves while we tried to give the Iraqis a better way to govern themselves.
[QUOTE=Dispenser;46028540]The difference being that Russia took Crimea for themselves while we tried to give the Iraqis a better way to govern themselves.[/QUOTE]
Tried, ended up with corrupt leadership and ditched the place then proceeded to have half the country taken over by Islamic Caliphate.
[QUOTE=Dispenser;46028540]The difference being that Russia took Crimea for themselves while we tried to give the Iraqis a better way to govern themselves.[/QUOTE]
It's not in the US interest to annex it though, what we're more interested in is spreading our ideologies which allows us to gain from trade.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46028389]Don't get worried. It's happened all the time since the soviet union. It's basically tradition.[/QUOTE]
Yep. It's not new and very common, not only in Alaska. It's like a way to say "hey we're still there look at that shiny bomber" and to to test reactivity, and the countries answers by "hey we are here too, look at my shiny fighter" .
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[QUOTE=426_Hemi;46030211]Yep. It's not new and very common, not only in Alaska. It's like a way to say "hey we're still there look at that shiny bomber" and to to test reactivity, and the countries answers by "hey we are here too, look at my shiny fighter" .
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Canada:
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Anybody considered that perhaps the Russian air force are just terrible with directions?
[QUOTE=Tuskin;46030277]Canada:
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oh, ya, Canada
It should be noted that Western airforces does this too. It's kinda a common practice used to check response times among many things.
First Sweden and now US and Canada, all within a week.
Is this usually this common?
[QUOTE=Swebonny;46030454]It should be noted that Western airforces does this too. It's kinda a common practice used to check response times among many things.[/QUOTE]
However there is a big flow of that stuff in the news recently. Just like booster I am really curious if it's that common usually and western media is just stirring shit up or russia actually waves its dick more often then usual.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46030598]However there is a big flow of that stuff in the news recently. Just like booster I am really curious if it's that common usually and western media is just stirring shit up or russia actually waves its dick more often then usual.[/QUOTE]
There is only a big flow of it in the news because it sounds sensational.
[QUOTE=426_Hemi;46030211]Yep. It's not new and very common, not only in Alaska. It's like a way to say "hey we're still there look at that shiny bomber" and to to test reactivity, and the countries answers by "hey we are here too, look at my shiny fighter" .
Australia
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And many more .[/QUOTE]
Uhh, the RAAF doesn't operate F-16's. From what little detail I can tell from the roundel, it sure doesn't resemble the "flying kangaroo" currently used
Back on topic, this has been common practice for years as many are saying. I wonder when they'll rock up with some PAK-FA's
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46030598]However there is a big flow of that stuff in the news recently. Just like booster I am really curious if it's that common usually and western media is just stirring shit up or russia actually waves its dick more often then usual.[/QUOTE]
I'd say Western media is undoubtedly more reliable than Eastern media. But in my opinion it can be just as biased as any Eastern media. The planes this piece talks about entered the Alaskan Air Defense Identification Zone, look how huge it is:
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The news reports about it as if they intruded US and Canadian airspace, while in reality they just entered the ADIZ which according to Wiki: "The authority to establish an ADIZ is not given by any international treaty nor prohibited by international law and is not regulated by any international body." Like it's just something that some nations decided to set up.
It happens all the time too, entering the ADIZ or flying along it, [B]is not[/B] the same as entering a nations airspace, which was what happened in Sweden. Two planes actually flew inside Swedish airspace.
Take China's ADIZ that they set up almost a year ago. Only a few number of nations actually obeys it. So I'm guessing a lot of planes violates that ADIZ, but I doubt their media will report about it 24/7 unless the timing of world events make it fitting.
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So I think it's just media choosing to report on something that happens very often, just because of the current situation in the world.
[QUOTE=shutter_eye5;46030889]Uhh, the RAAF doesn't operate F-16's. From what little detail I can tell from the roundel, it sure doesn't resemble the "flying kangaroo" currently used
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It's Norwegian.
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We should jury-rig some kind of paint(ball?)gun device onto a fighter, and send it out with the interception squadron to fire paint(balls?) at the russian aircraft until it leaves our airspace(ADIZ?).
I mean, if we're already chasing them down, we might as well get some target practice out of, right?
I guess theoretically you might somehow cause the russian plane to crash if you start splattering it with paint, but fuck that'd be embarrassing. Imagine trying to explain to your C.O. that someone shot down one of your military planes with paint balls.
Imagine if the practice was implemented, and then evolved to the point that we had some kind of dog-fighting tournament with Russia in international airspace using paint-based munitions.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;46031203]We should jury-rig some kind of paint(ball?)gun device onto a fighter, and send it out with the interception squadron to fire paint(balls?) at the russian aircraft until it leaves our airspace(ADIZ?).
I mean, if we're already chasing them down, we might as well get some target practice out of, right?
I guess theoretically you might somehow cause the russian plane to crash if you start splattering it with paint, but fuck that'd be embarrassing. Imagine trying to explain to your C.O. that someone shot down one of your military planes with paint balls.
Imagine if the practice was implemented, and then evolved to the point that we had some kind of dog-fighting tournament with Russia in international airspace using paint-based munitions.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather we not shoot anyone with anything.
Look at Israeli soldiers shooting at people who throw rocks at them.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;46031635]Look at Israeli soldiers shooting at people who throw rocks at them.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that sometimes these rocks have rocket engines and explosives inside.
[QUOTE=Dispenser;46028540]The difference being that Russia took Crimea for themselves while we tried to give the Iraqis a better way to govern themselves.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, except you robbed the country from its oil, leaving it in outrageous poverty
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;46034275]Yeah, except you robbed the country from its oil, leaving it in outrageous poverty[/QUOTE]
It was already in outrageous poverty and we NEVER BENEFITED FROM IRAQS OIL let me repeat that/ WE NEVER BENEFITED FROM IRAQS OIL just to be clear, we didn't make anything off of Iraq's oil
[QUOTE=soulharvester;46031203]We should jury-rig some kind of paint(ball?)gun device onto a fighter, and send it out with the interception squadron to fire paint(balls?) at the russian aircraft until it leaves our airspace(ADIZ?).
I mean, if we're already chasing them down, we might as well get some target practice out of, right?
I guess theoretically you might somehow cause the russian plane to crash if you start splattering it with paint, but fuck that'd be embarrassing. Imagine trying to explain to your C.O. that someone shot down one of your military planes with paint balls.
Imagine if the practice was implemented, and then evolved to the point that we had some kind of dog-fighting tournament with Russia in international airspace using paint-based munitions.[/QUOTE]
Many times, both sides are armed with real weapons. Russian transports and bombers have tailguns too. You see an F-15 coming at you, firing something at you, you are going to retaliate. Last thing we need is an international incident, or even worse. While the idea of paintball dogfights over the Bering Sea are cool, in reality, it would cause some problems.
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