So, I recently had the opportunity to experience Ketamine. I'm wondering what DD's opinion of K is, and even your general opinion of Dissociatives. Post your experiences with Ketamine or other dissociative drugs in this thread (even if you were just absolutely fucking blasted from a cone marathon, since I've found very mild dissociative effects to pop up when completely fucked). For the sake of the thread, I'm going to use my Facepunch username as my real-life name here.
My first "real" dissociative experiences was a few days ago in the city. Me and a friend met up and rang up a trip-dealer who also happened to have access to K. He didn't have any acid (which was the original plan), and me and my friend had quite a bit of money to spend, so we decided to try what he actually had: Ketamine. We had both done a little reading on it beforehand, and it seemed like it was an extremely interesting experience. We told his trip-dealer to come meet us in the city, and within 15 minutes, the three of us made our way to the alleyway behind a church. It was pissing down rain, and we had to climb up a small fence. Looking out down the street, the rain was so heavy it actually obscured vision like fog and gave the place an abandoned, creepy feeling. The fence was extremely slippery and dangerous, and had no ledges to hang onto. You had to grab onto an awning at the top and hoist yourself up, and then swing your legs up and over the fence. Behind the small wall, we were sheltered from the rain and noticed that there was a pile of clothes, towels and containers propped up neatly against the far side, about 2-3 meters away. Obviously, a homeless person had decided to stash their belongings here, which reassured me that the area was very well hidden. We sat down and sat in a circle and prepared the Ketamine.
We rolled a $50 note up and used a school id as a plate. The dealer took the first hit, demonstrating how to snort powder. I looked on eagerly as my friend prepared his hit. He snorted it up, sniffing violently for a second before relaxing. He then passed the id, the powder wrapped in alfoil and the $50 note to me, and I hastily prepared myself. I took a first small snort, which turned out to be a bad idea. The feeling of something foreign going up your nose like that was a bit too overwhelming and I paused briefly, but I managed to sniff the rest of the powder. Me and my friend looked at eachother, giggling briefly, wondering what was about to come. My dealer said, "Okay, one of the golden rules of K is that whilst someone may not look okay, they probably are okay and are just too fucked up to respond properly. That means they've probably fallen into a K-Hole." I acknowledged, and leaned back against the wall. The texture of the wall behind me shocked me, and it seemed kind of sticky. My hair and shirt seemed to get tangled in it. Then my friend said, "Vikernes, stand up! Check out how tall this fucking building looks from here." I stood up courageously, and then realized that my body was not ready for what was about to come. I couldn't [b]feel[/b] my body moving, but I was [b]aware[/b] of it moving. I looked at my legs and was absolutely shocked at how tall I suddenly became. This was the point where I knew the fun was about to start.
My friend grabbed me by the arm and propped me up against the wall so I could see the building. The tall, white lines created by the rain which ran up and down the building were absolutely mesmerizing. I stared into the gray skies, and then my head drifted down to my legs. Without realizing it, I had sat down. Shocked, I leaned back against the wall again, only to have my head roll to the right and look at my friend (who had also managed to sit down without me noticing). He was smiling, staring at me, and my eyes seemed to lose focus. This gave everything a "ghost" effect, and I could see double. My friend looked like he had 4 beady eyes, and a huge grin was splattered across his face. I remember saying, "Dude, what the fuck?" instinctively. My voice seemed extremely foreign and quiet. Something else was controlling my body. I was conscious, I knew what was happening, and I could only control my thoughts. My body was doing it's own thing. I started laughing before falling back onto the wall, staring back up at the sky.
Fuck, that building was so fucking tall. It went on forever, and the rain made it seem like I was speeding along a massive racetrack. I realized, "I need to make this fun for myself." The building was my racetrack, and my body was my vehicle, and gripping my steering wheel tight, I imagined speeding along the building in some alien vehicle. I managed to imagine myself in a desert highway very similar to the "Hog Ride" level of Crash Bandicoot 3. The cacti, structures and mountains, however, were replaced by manifestations of my thoughts, ideas and anxieties. I sped past these without glancing at them, before realizing what I was [i]actually[/i] doing in real life. Confused, I slowed down just as my friends offered me a puff from a joint, which I instinctively accepted. I grabbed the joint and saw my hands. They were not my hands; they seemed smaller than they usually were, and I couldn't feel whether or not I had control over them.
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"Vikernes! Vikernes! Dude, what the fuck, Vikernes. Fuck!" As I gripped the joint, my friend eagerly bounced up and down, clearly loving the experience. My trip-dealer was sitting there with a smirk across his face, clearly pretty dazed himself. For some reason I felt inclined to say, "Dude, what the fuck? Is this real life?" I then immediately cringed and leant against the wall, inhaling heavily. I exhaled and thought, of course it was real life, I was just on Ketamine--! Ketamine-! Ketamine... Ketamine... Ketamine... Ketamine...
I heard my father's voice (my father is extremely anti-drugs) echo in my head. "Ketamine... Ketamine..." I could still hear him his voice occasionally echoing in and out of my head, amidst staring the blurred church wall in front of me. By this time, I wasn't paying attention to my surroundings at all; everything was a combination of "ghosted", un-focused imagery and "that feeling you get when you stand up too fast." Everything was a lot more interesting, though. I had no accurate sense of time, and I had to put a lot of effort into lifting my arm and interpreting the time on my watch. "3:39" I said in my head, and tried to remember that number. Ketamine was only supposed to last 45 minutes, and I could have sworn at least thirty minutes had passed. I was wrong, and only five minutes had past.
My head was full of thoughts. Amidst the usual explosion of ideas you get when you smoke weed, I was simultaneously shocked, excited and amazed at how being completely detached from your body was. It was truly like your body was a puppet and you were the puppeteer, but your puppet is nothing more than just a tangle wood and string heaped on the ground. Ideas, thoughts and anxieties blasted throughout my head, which made it extremely hard to focus on accomplishing anything. All of a sudden I heard my friends' voices come into focus. "Vikernes...! Dude, let's go walk around for a bit." I heard myself whisper "No, dude, can't we just chill for a bit longer?" My voice sounded exactly like I was whispering, but I could hear the echo of it bouncing around the alleyway we were in (so unless it was the way my brain interpreted sound, I was speaking loudly). My friends eagerly went over to the fence, the trip-dealer almost falling down completely. My friend gave me a quick hand up, and climbed the fence. He seemed extremely cautious and nervous, but managed to climb down almost perfectly. Without preparing myself at all, I flung one of my legs over the wall and threw my body over. To my surprise, I didn't fall right down, and my feet somehow found themselves on a small ledge I didn't even notice before. I managed to climb down almost flawlessly, and after looking back at the wall, I felt exactly like Altair. Trying to walk around the alleyway was a nightmare, I couldn't walk in a straight line and I felt like I was going to fall over every 3 seconds. I had to walk down along the side of the wall and grab onto anything and everything I could. I have no idea how the others managed to walk so casually (I'm a good 30 kilograms under their weight and a lot less experienced with any drug other than weed, so maybe the dosage fucked me up a bit more).
We then spent the last part of our Ketamine-induced dream wandering around the streets. We talked to some people we recognized very briefly and then decided to talk to the local group of scene kids. We didn't get along very well (fucking scene kids), and decided to crash against a Chinese Takeaway as hundreds of people walked past. I hunched against the wall, mouth falling open and eyes spinning. I realized I must have obviously looked like I was on something, so I decided to try sober up a bit. Even though lots of people turned their heads and stared at us as we hunched against the wall, I had an extremely enjoyable experience with Ketamine. I've probably made it sound like a horrible experience, but the feelings I felt were truly amazing and everything was significant. Every feeling felt like an explosion in my heart, but at the same time, the feelings I were feeling and anything my body was feeling was not the same. We stumbled into an Irish Pub, and despite being under-aged, they let us just sit, heads-down on the table. Whenever I looked up, the bar would make me feel like I was back in Ireland (I spent three weeks in Ireland visiting my relatives a few months ago), and I could have sworn I briefly saw my cousin walking around in the very back of the pub (I obviously didn't).
Looking back on it, I've probably only managed to write about and remember 1/100th of everything I was feeling and thinking. I do remember feeling amazing, though. I eagerly await my next experience with a new drug, which will hopefully be acid. Eventually, I plan on experimenting with K and staying at home in a completely comfortable environment, being able to fully enjoy the wonders of the internet (that is, until my head explodes and I collapse on my bed).
what the fuck i wrote a lot, i could have sworn i wrote a lot less
and i didn't even touch on a lot of details wtf :(
you have now convinced me to try ketamine
Ketamine is more trippy than LSD (once you've done it properly)..
Is this thread now for posting trip reports on K / Diss. or was it just for your trip? haha.
I've always wanted to try K, but have no access to it unfortunately. Crazy story.
[QUOTE=firestorm0;26682860]Is this thread now for posting trip reports on K / Diss. or was it just for your trip? haha.
I've always wanted to try K, but have no access to it unfortunately. Crazy story.[/QUOTE]
[quote=Vikernes]Post your experiences with Ketamine or other dissociative drugs in this thread[/quote]
I'd like this to become a thread about experiences, since I'm very curious to see what other people have felt first-hand. If experiences belong somewhere else like Addicts Lounge or something, I don't mind. I really just want to see what other people think.
Very good trip report. Dissociatives are a lot of fun. I've only had experience with DXM though, but even that was a great experience. I really wish I could find some K around here.I don't always have a day to devote to a diss. but i wish i could do them more often.
-wrong thing entirely!-
[QUOTE=anarchist;26682769]Ketamine is more trippy than LSD [b](once you've done it properly)[/b]..[/QUOTE]
What I mean by this is take it in moderation over a period of hours otherwise you'll K-hole strait up and pass out.
[b]People, please stop rating me dumb![/b]
I currently have the ability to buy K, but I don't know if I should try it out. For a drug that makes you trip, it's more dangerous than the rest, although I'm sure the occasional trip without taking a huge dose isn't that bad. What do you experienced Ketamine users in DD think of it, and how would you compare it to tryptamines like LSD or shrooms?
I've had a few experiences with DXM. Though I can only remember a little bit about them now.
The first time I distinctly remember sitting in my dark closet and speaking to god. He had a big, eerie staticky face that seemed to span the entire universe and it constantly morphed and changed colours.
The second time, I remember sitting on a comfy armchair and reviewing parts of my life as seen through the eyes of my friends. crazy shit.
The third time I just put on some techno music and danced and it made me feel amazing
[QUOTE=anarchist;26682769]Ketamine is more trippy than LSD (once you've done it properly)..[/QUOTE]
AHAHHAHAHAAHAHA, no.
K is nice, in new users it can be trippy and make you 'k-hole' or see things, after a while you get used to it and you end up just feeling drunk when you're on it.
Takes 4.8Grams to kill you, 2grams to knock you out. More common in the UK than US worth about £20/15 a g
All the ketamine in my area vanished after this big raid
[QUOTE=Callius;26694409]AHAHHAHAHAAHAHA, no.
K is nice, in new users it can be trippy and make you 'k-hole' or see things, after a while you get used to it and you end up just feeling drunk when you're on it.
Takes 4.8Grams to kill you, 2grams to knock you out. More common in the UK than US worth about £20/15 a g[/QUOTE]
Yes, I never really noticed [i]seeing[/i] anything, but my mind certainly interpreted everything completely different. The best example I can give here is looking at my friend and believing he had four eyes for a few moments, until I realized it was just my obscured vision.
The only thing I really noticed visually was blurring, distortion, and from memory, everything had a hazy 'stop-motion' effect. Nothing I'd expect from something described as 'trippy.'
[QUOTE=vikernes;26704698]The only thing I really noticed visually was blurring, distortion, and from memory, everything had a hazy 'stop-motion' effect. Nothing I'd expect from something described as 'trippy.'[/QUOTE]
I get what he means because I can remember back when I first did K around 2 years ago that my mate claimed to see the universe implode and I remember having flashbacks of my entire life and thinking I was flying above my own body. But they're not of the scale that LSD is, more of it's your body confusing yourself than the type of trip that LSD produces.
It's nice to use but don't get used to regular use, it fucks your body up and gives you tolerance that makes only gram lines do anything remotely fun.
I never get why people liked K so much, it was fun but nothing amazing.
[QUOTE=Madcap;26720807]I never get why people liked K so much, it was fun but nothing amazing.[/QUOTE]
Everyone's different.
This sounds similar to a strong DXM trip. Yaaaay dissociatives.
[QUOTE=Callius;26694409]AHAHHAHAHAAHAHA, no.
K is nice, in new users it can be trippy and make you 'k-hole' or see things, after a while you get used to it and you end up just feeling drunk when you're on it.
Takes 4.8Grams to kill you, 2grams to knock you out. More common in the UK than US worth about £20/15 a g[/QUOTE]
Less than 2 grams, 100mg of pure k should make you hit the hole.
[QUOTE=joe588;26729563]Less than 2 grams, 100mg of pure k should make you hit the hole.[/QUOTE]
Knock you out isn't the same as a k-hole. You still experience things while in a K-hole but when I say knock out I mean out stone cold for like 8 hours.
[QUOTE=Mumblecrust;26723321]Everyone's different.[/QUOTE]
Yea your right, I just found it a bit odd.
I'd really like to try K, but the nausea I keep hearing about is rather off-putting. Also, I really wouldn't know where to find it. My buddies and I have lost most of our dealers. Kinda sucks. Just know campus folk, and the fucking campus-tards are all drug morons. Shit, most look at you funny when you say you've done 'cid. Even more look at you funny when you tell 'em you wanna try harder shit. I mean, damn, is it really that weird that I wanna try PCP? lol
Ahhh dxm my old friend, we haven't hung out in long ass time maybe its because you've almost killed me twice (was taking an SSRI at the time, serotonin syndrome is not fun guys), alas my old companion twas my fault and I hope we meet each again soon and have a blast.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;26736318]I'd really like to try K, but the nausea I keep hearing about is rather off-putting. Also, I really wouldn't know where to find it. My buddies and I have lost most of our dealers. Kinda sucks. Just know campus folk, and the fucking campus-tards are all drug morons. Shit, most look at you funny when you say you've done 'cid. Even more look at you funny when you tell 'em you wanna try harder shit. I mean, damn, is it really that weird that I wanna try PCP? lol[/QUOTE]
It's not very nauseaing, the best way to prevent it when you're getting used to it is to not eat an hour before use, after a short while you're used to it and you can just eat regularly.
There's this one drug i think it's dmt that has a common effect called "la purgitora" or some shit, probably Spanish for "the purge/vomit". Basically it's like the thing you do before you trip, everyone who does this drug throws up and trips balls.
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;26741786]There's this one drug i think it's dmt that has a common effect called "la purgitora" or some shit, probably Spanish for "the purge/vomit". Basically it's like the thing you do before you trip, everyone who does this drug throws up and trips balls.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca.shtml[/url]
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That could be it
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;26741786]There's this one drug i think it's dmt that has a common effect called "la purgitora" or some shit, probably Spanish for "the purge/vomit". Basically it's like the thing you do before you trip, everyone who does this drug throws up and trips balls.[/QUOTE]
Mescaline, from Peyote specifically
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Could also be Ayahuasca, but I haven't heard as many consistent reports of vomiting prior to tripping as I have with Peyote.
Both are known to cause nausea, but it is the common consensus that you WILL puke after eating Peyote.
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