• Deadly shootout involving Middlefield police following a routine traffic stop
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[quote]The officers observe Gilkerson moving inside his car. Thomas, who is sitting in the passenger seat, exists the cruiser and circles back behind it to the driver's side. Savage remains inside the cruiser. Before Thomas reaches the front bumper of the cruiser, Gilkerson exits his vehicle and begins firing on the officers with an AK-47 style semi-automatic rifle. Gilkerson moves away from his vehicle out further into the middle of the road, as Thomas had retreated to the back right bumper of the cruiser.[/quote] He also had like 400 rounds of ammo and stuff. After watching the video it really makes you think what he was on his way to do, he was wanting to die and had a large amount of ammo. Maybe a shooting spree? Who knows but the cops got out of there fine. [url]http://www.lawofficer.com/video/news/middlefield-oh-dash-cam-shooto[/url] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-ByHOnybts[/media]
Likely just another moron trying to get his 10 minutes of fame.
Balls of titanium to still be able to draw out a sidearm and return fire while a guy is firing shots at you from 10 feet away.
Shitloads of loaded magazines for the rifle + the tinfoil grade books just cements the fact that the fella was one nutty lunatic. And at-least the weapon description is somewhat accurate this time. Also slightly better video, although turn the volume down: [video=youtube;ADHoBijaqNU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADHoBijaqNU[/video]
Gotta give it to the cops for reacting so fast and taking him down.
Holy shit, I'm almost sure this guy was planing some shootout or worse. Respect for the cops, they may have avoided a disaster.
Bet it was a sovereign citizen. Wouldn't be the first time they've done shit like this.
I don't think they shot him enough
Wow, that's some fucked up shit. I'm glad though that happened how it did and the guy didn't walk into a public place full of unarmed civilians, with all that ammo.
[QUOTE=Cats meow;40561759]I don't think they shot him enough[/QUOTE] Unless you manage to hit the spine, heart, or brain (Noting that handgun rounds can reflect off the skull fairly readily and not all shots to the brain are fatal or even incapacitating), you can expect the person being shot to survive for probably at least a minute or two, even with a shot directly to an artery. Even shots to major organs, such as the liver, will still see them alive for tens of minutes without medical attention. This is why you always see such ridiculously high shot counts from police handguns.
He clearly wanted to die, he just sat there in the open spraying at them. Silly man. Wonder where he was going with so much ammo?
[QUOTE=GunFox;40561887]Unless you manage to hit the spine, heart, or brain (Noting that handgun rounds can reflect off the skull fairly readily and not all shots to the brain are fatal or even incapacitating), you can expect the person being shot to survive for probably at least a minute or two, even with a shot directly to an artery. Even shots to major organs, such as the liver, will still see them alive for tens of minutes without medical attention. This is why you always see such ridiculously high shot counts from police handguns.[/QUOTE] tbh you guys make it out to be that the pistols the police use are airsoft guns. i still dont understand why the people shot him 10 times after he was on his knees groaning in pain.
[QUOTE=Monkey pie;40562223]tbh you guys make it out to be that the pistols the police use are airsoft guns. i still dont understand why the people shot him 10 times after he was on his knees groaning in pain.[/QUOTE] He was still holding the weapon
[QUOTE=Monkey pie;40562223]tbh you guys make it out to be that the pistols the police use are airsoft guns. i still dont understand why the people shot him 10 times after he was on his knees groaning in pain.[/QUOTE] i'd imagine it was to kill him
To this day i will still fear american cops.
[QUOTE=Monkey pie;40562402]To this day i will still fear american cops.[/QUOTE] .... why? Are you seriously gonna argue that deadly force wasn't justified here?
[QUOTE=Monkey pie;40562223]tbh you guys make it out to be that the pistols the police use are airsoft guns. i still dont understand why the people shot him 10 times after he was on his knees groaning in pain.[/QUOTE] Because if they didn't, they could have been on their knees groaning in pain as well.
[QUOTE=Paradox621;40562739].... why? Are you seriously gonna argue that deadly force wasn't justified here?[/QUOTE] He's referring to all the other incidents we hear about.
[QUOTE=Cats meow;40561759]I don't think they shot him enough[/QUOTE] If you're in a situation where someone is trying to kill you with a high caliber rifle, at such close range no less, you're not going to be worried about arresting the man, you're going to be more worried about getting out of the situation alive.
[QUOTE=Monkey pie;40562223]tbh you guys make it out to be that the pistols the police use are airsoft guns. i still dont understand why the people shot him 10 times after he was on his knees groaning in pain.[/QUOTE] The police use real world weaponry, not hollywood blow you back 10 feet pistols. [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Cats meow;40561759]I don't think they shot him enough[/QUOTE] Pretty sure the normal rule for police, if you have to shoot and they're armed, is dont stop shooting till they stop moving.
[QUOTE=Paradox621;40562739].... why? Are you seriously gonna argue that deadly force wasn't justified here?[/QUOTE] its about all the stories you read about cops in the us doing bad shit, its really bad reputation
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;40561285]Likely just another moron trying to get his 10 minutes of fame.[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone kills themself so that they can have fame.
these guys on the other hand did nothing wrong and responded back appropriately, just glad this was ended quickly and he didn't fire upon a school or something
[QUOTE=Graavis;40562855]I don't think anyone kills themself so that they can have fame.[/QUOTE] No mentally stable person, my guess is that this person probably wasn't exactly the poster child for mental stability
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;40561668]Bet it was a sovereign citizen. Wouldn't be the first time they've done shit like this.[/QUOTE] Or maybe he was just running drugs and didn't want to go to jail. I mean, that just seems more likely than some deranged Second Amendment freak [I]in Ohio[/I].
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;40562902]Or maybe he was just running drugs and didn't want to go to jail. I mean, that just seems more likely than some deranged Second Amendment freak [I]in Ohio[/I].[/QUOTE] don't you think they'd mention that when/before they detail all the weapons he had on him(they already did)?
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;40562902]Or maybe he was just running drugs and didn't want to go to jail. I mean, that just seems more likely than some deranged Second Amendment freak [I]in Ohio[/I].[/QUOTE] Sadly, there are deranged Second Amendment freaks all over the country.
[QUOTE=Monkey pie;40562223]tbh you guys make it out to be that the pistols the police use are airsoft guns. i still dont understand why the people shot him 10 times after he was on his knees groaning in pain.[/QUOTE] He had just shot a police officer and was still aiming the weapon at them. I think he was still shooting. I don't understand you post at all. [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Eudoxia;40562902]Or maybe he was just running drugs and didn't want to go to jail. I mean, that just seems more likely than some deranged Second Amendment freak [I]in Ohio[/I].[/QUOTE] You obviously didn't watch the video or you muted it/are deaf. He was shouting "KILL ME KILL ME".
[QUOTE=Van-man;40561459]Shitloads of loaded magazines for the rifle + the tinfoil grade books just cements the fact that the fella was one nutty lunatic. And at-least the weapon description is somewhat accurate this time. Also slightly better video, although turn the volume down: [video=youtube;ADHoBijaqNU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADHoBijaqNU[/video][/QUOTE] is it only me who hears him scream "kill me" at 1:29? hey wait, It wasn't just me
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;40562902]Or maybe he was just running drugs and didn't want to go to jail. I mean, that just seems more likely than some deranged Second Amendment freak [I]in Ohio[/I].[/QUOTE] Did you see the end of the video? 400 bullets to spare, plus gear and books on how to shoot and stuff. I doubt he did this because of drugs. He had some sort of plan.
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