Mossad, CIA and Blackwater operate in Syria - report
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[i]Members of the Free Syrian Army patrol an area in Qusayr, 15 kms (nine miles) from Homs. (AFP Photo / STR) Ahmed Jadallah)[/i]
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A security operation in Homs reveals Mossad, CIA and Blackwater are involved in the military violence in this part of Syria, as over 700 Arab and Western gunmen and Israeli, American and European-made weapons were detained in Baba Amr district.
*Syrian security forces got yet further proof of Western powers’ military involvement in Syria’s internal conflict, reports Al-Manar, a news agency, affiliated with Hezbollah, the Lebanon-based militant group and political party.
Around 700 gunmen were recently arrested in the former rebel stronghold of Babar Amr.
“The captured gunmen held Arab nationalities, including Gulf, Iraqi, and Lebanese. Among them were also Qatari intelligence agents and non-Arab fighters from Afghanistan, Turkey, and some European countries like France,” the agency quotes Syrian expert in strategic affairs Salim Harba as saying.
[B]Harba also confirmed to the agency that “a coordination office was established in Qatar under American-Gulf sponsorship. The office includes American, French, and Gulf – specifically from Qatar and Saudi Arabia – intelligence agents, as well as CIA, Mossad, and Blackwater agents and members of the Syrian Transitional Council.”[/B]
The Syrian expert also added the security forces have also seized Israeli-, European- and American-made weapons.
“The Syrian army also uncovered tunnels and equipments there,” he told to the agency, “advanced Israeli, European, and American arms that have not yet been tested in the countries of manufacture, in addition to Israeli grenades, night binoculars, and communication systems were confiscated by the security forces.”
Salim Harba however said the Syrian authorities are not planning to reveal all the obtained information now, but assured all the evidence is of high value.
“The Syrian security forces have documents and confessions that could harm everyone who conspired against Syria, and could make a security and political change, not just on the internal Syrian level, but also on the regional level,” he said.
[b]The recent Stratfor leak and hacked email of the company’s director of analysis also suggest undercover NATO troops are already on the ground in Syria.[/b]
[b]There have been previous allegations of a Western presence on the side of the rebels as 13 French officers were reportedly captured by the loyalist forces earlier in March.[/b]
President Bashar al-Assad has repeatedly claimed his regime is fighting not with peaceful protesters as claimed by the West, but with the military gangs supported by the West.
Western powers however have categorically denied any military involvement in Syrian internal conflict.[/release]
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The problem with this article is that Blackwater hasn't existed as Blackwater for like 5 or 6 years now. When a news article cannot get a basic fact like that right it makes you wonder how correct the rest of it is.
[QUOTE=Jsm;35042437]The problem with this article is that Blackwater hasn't existed as Blackwater for like 5 or 6 years now. When a news article cannot get a basic fact like that right it makes you wonder how correct the rest of it is.[/QUOTE]
It now exists as Academi. They are a private security company still. They do training and security detail.
[QUOTE=Jsm;35042437]The problem with this article is that Blackwater hasn't existed as Blackwater for like 5 or 6 years now. When a news article cannot get a basic fact like that right it makes you wonder how correct the rest of it is.[/QUOTE]
Most people recognize their old name because of Iraq but not their new name. They changed it due to its negative assosiation, but it's the same shit.
[QUOTE=OvB;35042477]It now exists as Academi. They are a private security company still. They do training and security detail.[/QUOTE]
What happened to Xe?
[QUOTE=shian;35042666]What happened to Xe?[/QUOTE]
[quote=wikipedia]In December 2011, Xe changed its name again to "Academi". The name refers to Plato's Academy[2] and is meant, according to Ted Wright, to reflect a more "boring" image.[38][/quote]
They're really trying to distant themselves from that past incident.
Academi is the dumbest name I've ever heard.
It sounds like a trendy art college.
[QUOTE=OvB;35042702]They're really trying to distant themselves from that past incident.[/QUOTE]
Their reputation is pretty much dead regardless.
[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;35042767]Academi is the dumbest name I've ever heard.
It sounds like a trendy art college.[/QUOTE]
It makes them sound less like a PMC and more like a training company. Which is what they appear to be moving to.
No big surprise. We can't get UNSC support, so we go ahead with it anyhow.
if this is correct, it is my opinion that we need to leave, then. Immediately.
[QUOTE=OvB;35042702]They're really trying to distant themselves from that past incident.[/QUOTE]
Which incident? I never heard of it.
[QUOTE=Fatman55;35043139]Which incident? I never heard of it.[/QUOTE][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Baghdad_shootings]Take a look.[/url]
[QUOTE=OvB;35042477]It now exists as Academi. They are a private security company still. They do training and security detail.[/QUOTE]
Neither of which involves aggression inside Syria.
Not to mention the fact that this is coming from the Syrian security forces.
Basically it is a lie. It is an exceptionally transparent lie at that.
[QUOTE=Jsm;35042437]The problem with this article is that Blackwater hasn't existed as Blackwater for like 5 or 6 years now. When a news article cannot get a basic fact like that right it makes you wonder how correct the rest of it is.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but Xe or Academi sounds fucking retarded, and we keep calling them Blackwater because everyone recognizes the name.
[QUOTE=muesli23;35042482]Most people recognize their old name because of Iraq but not their new name. They changed it due to its negative assosiation, but it's the same shit.[/QUOTE]
They also have swapped leadership.
It is functionally an entirely different security contractor. Seeing as the leadership/founder were the major issue due to their crusader mentality.
Of the hundreds of security agencies that have operated inside Iraq and Afghanistan, how many can you name off the top of your head?
[QUOTE=GunFox;35043280]Neither of which involves aggression inside Syria.
Not to mention the fact that this is coming from the Syrian security forces.
Basically it is a lie. It is an exceptionally transparent lie at that.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, the article sounds fishy at best. Academi has no business there unless there are some Government personnel still in the country that need protection. That's about the only scenario I can come up with. They train people, and give security to people. They don't run out on renegade missions like the general population seem to think.
[editline]7th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=GunFox;35043304]They also have swapped leadership.
It is functionally an entirely different security contractor. Seeing as the leadership/founder were the major issue due to their crusader mentality.
Of the hundreds of security agencies that have operated inside Iraq and Afghanistan, how many can you name off the top of your head?[/QUOTE]
Contractors do a ton of work there. It's hardly appropriate to degrade all of them because of some disastrous fuck-up from a team of men from a single company that in itself has hundreds of employees.
[QUOTE=OvB;35043382]Well yeah, the article sounds fishy at best. Academi has no business there unless there are some Government personnel still in the country that need protection. That's about the only scenario I can come up with. They train people, and give security to people. They don't run out on renegade missions like the general population seem to think.
[editline]7th March 2012[/editline]
Contractors do a ton of work there. It's hardly appropriate to degrade all of them because of some disastrous fuck-up from a team of men from a single company that in itself has hundreds of employees.[/QUOTE]
Aye, people hear "security contractor" and they go apeshit. It is sad to watch otherwise perfectly intelligent people pass judgement under the false belief that PMC == Mercenary.
It sounds like the Syrian Government didn't think the CIA and Mossad was enough and just pulled Blackwater out of their ass.
How is this news? The US and it's allies have spies [i]everywhere.[/i] Christ, it would be ass backwards if we suddenly didn't have them in Syria when we had them in Libyia, etc. We've been doing this shit since before the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars]1890's[/url] at least.
why do they call them "private security contractors" instead of mercenaries? having a fancy name wont change facts.
[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;35042767]Academi is the dumbest name I've ever heard.
It sounds like a trendy art college.[/QUOTE]
Thats the point.
They might as well said they captured Nazi unicorn cavalry and it would've been more believable.
[QUOTE=Pace.;35048231]why do they call them "private security contractors" instead of mercenaries? having a fancy name wont change facts.[/QUOTE]
because the two are not the same. Companies like academi are moving toward providing training and moving away from direct involvement in war.
[editline]8th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Worldwaker;35048164]How is this news? The US and it's allies have spies [i]everywhere.[/i] Christ, it would be ass backwards if we suddenly didn't have them in Syria when we had them in Libyia, etc. We've been doing this shit since before the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars]1890's[/url] at least.[/QUOTE]
you're assuming it's not blatant bullshit. what are the odds that you'll suddenly capture the mossad, cia, and a PMC with no business being in Syria, skulking around. he even says stupid things like: “The Syrian army also uncovered tunnels and equipments there,” he told to the agency, “advanced Israeli, European, and American arms that have not yet been tested in the countries of manufacture, in addition to Israeli grenades, night binoculars, and communication systems were confiscated by the security forces.”
wtf not tested yet? then why issue them?
And indeed, why give them to Syrian rebels, who in all likelihood are going to lose them through normal (but amplified in this case) battlefield attrition, and thus letting Syrian loyalists get their hands on them?
It'd be far smarter just to give them crates and crates of AKs or something else that would be more useful.
CIA is in there throwing around suitcases of cash and caches of weapons like they always do :v:
But don't kid yourself, the rebellion is doing bad, if it fails, this will be another case of wasted money and agents in CIA's history.
[QUOTE=Worldwaker;35048164]We've been doing this shit since before the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars]1890's[/url] at least.[/QUOTE]
Succesfully for about 3~ times now.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;35048372]And indeed, why give them to Syrian rebels, who in all likelihood are going to lose them through normal (but amplified in this case) battlefield attrition, and thus letting Syrian loyalists get their hands on them?
It'd be far smarter just to give them crates and crates of AKs or something else that would be more useful.[/QUOTE]
Ironically, atm, the majority of Syrian rebel weapons and dudes come from the Iraqi resistance.
America has spies in Syria.
In other news, grass is green.
[QUOTE=GunFox;35043304]They also have swapped leadership.
It is functionally an entirely different security contractor. Seeing as the leadership/founder were the major issue due to their crusader mentality.
Of the hundreds of security agencies that have operated inside Iraq and Afghanistan, how many can you name off the top of your head?[/QUOTE]
Heh. Crusader mentality.
Reminds me of this video.
[video=youtube;4gvju09PFII]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gvju09PFII[/video]
This is hard to believe..and 700 people? Yeah I don't buy this.
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