Exchange student slain after frantic friend watches webcam attack
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[quote]A 23-year-old exchange student -- attacked in her Toronto apartment while a friend in China watched via computer webcam -- was found dead there hours later, police say.
Toronto Police on Monday identified the student as Qian (Necole) Liu of Beijing. She was talking early Friday morning to a male friend from home when a man allegedly knocked on her door, asking to use her phone, police said in a news release.
The online witness said he saw Liu and the unknown man struggle for a time before the attacker turned off her laptop, the news release said.
The friend in China then started a desperate bid to find out what happened, CNN-affiliate CTV reported.
Ten hours later, police arrived at the basement apartment to find Liu's dead body, naked from the waist down. Her laptop was missing.
"It was obvious that she had been dead for some period of time," Detective Sgt. Frank Skubic said in the news release.
The cause of the death is yet to be determined, the news release said. There were no obvious signs of sexual assault or severe physical trauma, and police are awaiting toxicology reports, it said.
Police are unsure whether Liu, an exchange student at York University, knew the man. The attacker was described as white, age 20 to 30, 6 feet tall, weighing 175 to 200 pounds, with a muscular build and medium-length brown hair, and wearing a blue crew-neck T-shirt.
With no suspects and no one in custody, police have been questioning neighbors, CTV reported. A cell phone found in the apartment is also undergoing forensic examination, police said.
York University President Mamdouh Shoukri released a statement saying, "Qian's death is a terrible tragedy and our entire community mourns the loss of a promising young student."
Liu's family is currently on their way to Canada from China, CTV reported.
A call to police seeking further comment was not immediately returned.
This is not the first time a crime has been captured by webcam. In the most notorious incident, Meleanie Hain of Lebanon, Pennsylvania was shot dead in 2009 while talking to a friend via webcam. The friend was looking away when he heard a shot and a scream, police said. Upon looking back at the screen, the friend saw Hain's husband firing a handgun at where his wife had been, they said. Police later found both Hain and her husband dead in their home.[/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/18/canada.webcam.slaying/index.html?hpt=T2[/url]
:smith:
Good fucking God, it's like a scene from Videodrome or some shit.
Jesus, I hope I never have to feel as powerless as that woman did.
they took her laptop and pants?
what the fuck
I don't understand why, when something like that happens, the person watching doesn't mash that fucking screenshot button. I see kids posting pictures they took on skype and whatnot on facebook all the time, why not do that shit when it actually matters?
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29282047]I don't understand why, when something like that happens, the person watching doesn't mash that fucking screenshot button.[/QUOTE]
I would imagine not being a psychopath factors into their decision not to take screenshots of their friends being raped and murdered
[QUOTE=Sanius;29282068]I would imagine not being a psychopath factors into their decision not to take screenshots of their friends being raped and murdered[/QUOTE]
I think he meant for purposes of evidence.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29282068]I would imagine not being a psychopath factors into their decision not to take screenshots of their friends being raped and murdered[/QUOTE]
:sigh:
[QUOTE=Exploits;29282097]I think he meant for purposes of evidence.[/QUOTE]
I don't think people who are witnessing their friend being raped and murdered take the time to think about collecting evidence
[QUOTE=Sanius;29282148]I don't think people who are witnessing their friend being raped and murdered take the time to think about collecting evidence[/QUOTE]
She wasn't raped, for one.
For two, you're half-right, that's definitely not the first thing that would come to mind. But once that initial shock wears off, and the right people are contacted, seems like a damn good idea to me.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29282148]I don't think people who are witnessing their friend being raped and murdered take the time to think about collecting evidence[/QUOTE]
Panicked friends don't :eng101:
[QUOTE=Exploits;29282187]She wasn't raped, for one.
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I find it hard to believe that the murderer undressed her from the waist-down just for the hell of it
[QUOTE=Sanius;29282203]I find it hard to believe that the murderer undressed her from the waist-down just for the hell of it[/QUOTE]
There was no evidence of sexual assault if you read the article.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29282047]I don't understand why, when something like that happens, the person watching doesn't mash that fucking screenshot button. I see kids posting pictures they took on skype and whatnot on facebook all the time, why not do that shit when it actually matters?[/QUOTE]
Most of the people I know that do that take a picture of the screen with their iPhone, screencap [b]that[/b], and then post it on facebook from there since they don't know how to screencap on a PC.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29282203]I find it hard to believe that the murderer undressed her from the waist-down just for the hell of it[/QUOTE]
If I had to guess, he had every intention to rape either at first or after the assault, but saw the laptop was running webcam and decided his time was up. Took the laptop and skipped out, hoping to cover evidence that way.
I hope the friend is okay after the incident.
Surely he must feel terrible about it knowing that his friend died moments after he talked with her.
May her soul rest in peace.
No video? :smith:
[QUOTE=VengfulSoldier;29282216]There was no evidence of sexual assault if you read the article.[/QUOTE]
[quote]There were no [b]obvious[/b] signs of sexual assault or severe physical trauma, and police are awaiting toxicology reports, it said.[/quote]
Just clarifying.
Although, he could have killed her / knocked her unconscious somehow first and [i]then[/i] raped her.
A bit better than raping her then killing her. Still horrible as fuck and the guy needs a fucking life sentence, but slightly better than the other possibility.
[QUOTE=Pasalaqcua;29282493]No video? :smith:[/QUOTE]
Where's the "disgusting" rating?
[QUOTE=Last or First;29282498]Where's the "disgusting" rating?[/QUOTE]
I left it in a box somewhere, just keep tossing them at him until it falls out.
[QUOTE=Exploits;29282566]I left it in a box somewhere, just keep tossing them at him until it falls out.[/QUOTE]
Tool is better I think.
I think it would be awesome if skype kept a short term cache of video and audio chats for crime evidence.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29282148]I don't think people who are witnessing their friend being raped and murdered take the time to think about collecting evidence[/QUOTE]
At first I thought you were stupid.
But now I know you're stupid.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29282047]I don't understand why, when something like that happens, the person watching doesn't mash that fucking screenshot button. I see kids posting pictures they took on skype and whatnot on facebook all the time, why not do that shit when it actually matters?[/QUOTE]
Because when you see your friend being killed in front of you you don't think rationally
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Valdor;29289656]At first I thought you were stupid.
But now I know you're stupid.[/QUOTE]
He's right idiot
When you're distressed you don't think clearly
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;29288067]I think it would be awesome if skype kept a short term cache of video and audio chats for crime evidence.[/QUOTE]
They would have to deal with privacy concerns.
Personally I wouldn't be opposed to the notion but many would.
wow that's terrible.
Must of been the most helpless feeling in the world
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;29288067]I think it would be awesome if skype kept a short term cache of video and audio chats for crime evidence.[/QUOTE]
but, think about the pedophiles!
[QUOTE=Penguin-Man;29291120]but, think about the pedophiles![/QUOTE]
what
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29290573]Because when you see your friend being killed in front of you you don't think rationally
[editline]18th April 2011[/editline]
He's right idiot
When you're distressed you don't think clearly[/QUOTE]
You should have just told me you were an expert in this, doc :downs:
[QUOTE=Kalibos;29282124]:sigh:[/QUOTE]
You avatar fits this thread.
[editline]19th April 2011[/editline]
Also, why would you open the door? Peepholes ftw.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;29291215]You avatar fits this thread.
[editline]19th April 2011[/editline]
Also, why would you open the door? Peepholes ftw.[/QUOTE]
when a man allegedly knocked on her door, asking to use her phone
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