GPU Question - Would My PC "bottleneck" With An ATI 5 Series Card?
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[highlight]Mods, please understand that this is [u]NOT a "choose for me" thread[/u].[/highlight] Also sorry if this is in the wrong section. I felt this was the most suitable section of the forums. If it isn't, then a moderator is free to move it.
Alright, quick question.
So far I have heard of the release of the ATI 5 Series GPUs. I thought that if in the future I do plan to upgrade my GPU, would my system be able to keep up with the operation within the card range?
Currently my PC is listed below:
[quote=GreenDolphin;15367674][u]Main:[/u]
[B]CPU:[/B] Intel Core 2 Duo e6850 3.00GHZ @ 3.60GHZ
[B]GPU:[/B] BFG 9800GTX+ 512MB Superclocked in 2-way SLI
[b]GPU2:[/b] BFG 9800GTX+ 512MB Superclocked in 2-way SLI
[B]RAM:[/B] 4GB DDR2 (2x2048MB) OCZ 800MHZ
[B]HDD:[/B] Samsung Spinpoint 1TB 7200RPM
[u]More Details:[/u]
[B]Mobo:[/B] Nvidia Nforce 680i SLI
[B]PSU:[/B] Corsair HX 1000W[/quote]
So far my main concern is with the CPU. Will it be able to keep up with the operation of the GPU even in its overclocked state? Even with this configuration, what card within the 5 series could be recommended? Can a 5870 (or unlikely higher) be fully compatible with my system?
If I do need to upgrade the CPU, then the only choices of CPUs available to me are these:
[quote=GreenDolphin;16387872]Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz 8mb L2 1066Mhz 65mn
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz 8mb L2 1066Mhz 65mn
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 3.0GHz 8mb L2 1333Mhz 65mn[/quote]
Even with a CPU upgrade, would it still be compatible?
Reason I asked this is because I've noticed and felt that anything over the performance of a GTX295 will "bottleneck" my system. I am also not very knowledge on ATIs side of GPU marketing.
Core 2 Duo 3.6GHz .. should be fine
OP, you're PC is identical to mind except I'm running twin 9600GT's. I'd also like an answer to this, as I'm considering biting the bullet and going for a 5XXX.
There is no way that could bottleneck running at 3.6 GHz
[QUOTE=Arsonist;17827587]There is no way that could bottleneck running at 3.6 GHz[/QUOTE]
I have a pentium 4 running at 3.8GHz, do i win? :downs:
[QUOTE=Arsonist;17827587]There is no way that could bottleneck running at 3.6 GHz[/QUOTE]
Are you sure? Because I have heard reports of a GTX295 being "bottlenecked" with my proccessor and clock speed.
Sorry for the dumb question but whats a bottleneck?
[QUOTE=Wootman;17832453]Sorry for the dumb question but whats a bottleneck?[/QUOTE]
The delay in transmission of data through the circuits of a computer's microprocessor or over a TCP/IP network. The delay typically occurs when a system's bandwidth cannot support the amount of information being relayed at the speed it is being processed. There are, however, many factors that can create a bottleneck in a system.
Bottlenecks affect microprocessor performance by slowing down the flow of information back and forth from the CPU and the memory. If all of the components of a system are not able to feed the same amount of data at the same speed, a delay is created. For example, a 2GB processor will be severely bottlenecked by an 800MB memory bandwidth.
Bottlenecks affect network performance by slowing down the flow of information transmitted across networks. TCP/IP connections were originally designed to transmit only text files, and the proliferation of bandwidth-intensive transmissions such as high-resolution graphics has caused bottlenecks in the process; therefore, the data moves more slowly across networks.
any hardware component can become a bottleneck if it's architecture is inferior/outdated than the rest of its counter parts, if you had single data rate memory, that's a bottleneck, a 5400rpm disk drive, that's a bottleneck and so forth. it's not simply restricted or related to network performance, the term is universal.
bottlenecking is when a particular component or components affect the -entire- system due to the inability to allocate sufficient bandwidth/resources in any given operation. that's my understanding of it.
i haven't purchased an ati product since the 9800xt in mid 2000, your best bet would be to check "reputable" sources of information or product reviews from people that have a similar setups to your own. if you're hearing that similar configurations to your own suffer from bottlenecking with that particular card, you gotta be careful to make the right decision so you don't go through the inconvenience if experiencing a problem due to making an uncertain purchase. i would think the 3.6 dual core should be sufficient for most setups, but you never know dude.
by the way i love that motherboard i'm using it as well :]
good luck
[QUOTE=veteran_gamer;17832965]any hardware component can become a bottleneck if it's architecture is inferior/outdated than the rest of its counter parts, if you had single data rate memory, that's a bottleneck, a 5400rpm disk drive, that's a bottleneck and so forth. it's not simply restricted or related to network performance, the term is universal.
bottlenecking is when a particular component or components affect the -entire- system due to the inability to allocate sufficient bandwidth/resources in any given operation. that's my understanding of it.
i haven't purchased an ati product since the 9800xt in mid 2000, your best bet would be to check "reputable" sources of information or product reviews from people that have a similar setups to your own. if you're hearing that similar configurations to your own suffer from bottlenecking with that particular card, you gotta be careful to make the right decision so you don't go through the inconvenience if experiencing a problem due to making an uncertain purchase. i would think the 3.6 dual core should be sufficient for most setups, but you never know dude.
by the way i love that motherboard i'm using it as well :]
good luck[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but you've been... :ninja:
[QUOTE=GreenDolphin;17815367]Can a 5870 (or unlikely higher) be fully compatible with my system?
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Even with a CPU upgrade, would it still be compatible?[/QUOTE]
Bottlenecking has nothing to do with compatibility and it's not something to be overly concerned about. I say go for the 5870 and if it's bottlenecked by your CPU, no big deal. You can always upgrade the CPU later.
You're fine.
[QUOTE=CombineGuru;17832541]
Bottlenecks affect microprocessor performance by slowing down the flow of information back and forth from the CPU and the memory. If all of the components of a system are not able to feed the same amount of data at the same speed, a delay is created. For example, a 2GB processor will be severely bottlenecked by an 800MB memory bandwidth.
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Ha ha you said 2GB processor.
...actually that had me confused until I realized it was an accident. :ohdear:
I didn't mean to :ohdear:
Damn copypastas
:ninja:
[QUOTE=Roast Beast;17838400]Bottlenecking has nothing to do with compatibility and it's not something to be overly concerned about. I say go for the 5870 and if it's bottlenecked by your CPU, no big deal. You can always upgrade the CPU later.[/QUOTE]
Oh yes, but I was meaning more in terms of would it be reccomended to be fully functional with the current hardware?
Also I do not plan buy a new GPU anytime soon.
Instead I made this thread so I can have prior knowledge that if in the far future I do decided to upgrade my PC, I will have a better understanding of what options are available to me.
Thanks for the current responses everyone.
[QUOTE=5tolognadriS;17842009]Ha ha you said 2GB processor.
...actually that had me confused until I realized it was an accident. :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
He meant a 2 gigabit CPU, as in the bandwidth, and you know that. don't be an arse. He didn't make a mistake.
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