• Terror attack kills 200+
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[quote] At least 125 people have been killed and about 150 injured in an explosion claimed by the so-called Islamic State group in Baghdad, Iraqi police say. ... The mainly Shia area was busy with shoppers late at night because it is the holy month of Ramadan. ... Police said the dead included at least 15 children and six policemen. ... Hussein Ali, a former Iraqi soldier, told AFP news agency that six workers at his family's shop had been killed and their bodies so badly burned that they could not be identified. [/quote] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36696568[/url] This is what people are fleeing from.
Chilcot will be released this week so we can watch as the people responsible for this situation have had enough delays to avoid facing any consequences.
Oh, I thought this was somewhere I am supposed to care about. What's the point of this thread? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - Novangel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;50641175]Isnt this the most anti-islamic thing to do this month?[/QUOTE] "Islamic State" has nothing to do with Islam anymore.
Doesn't this happen every day there? This didn't break any records or anything, right?
[QUOTE=TG2;50641191]Doesn't this happen every day there? This didn't break any records or anything, right?[/QUOTE] At first I thought you were making a comment on western reactions to shit like this. But nope, seems like you're just a terrible person.
[QUOTE=Tools;50641189][QUOTE=Fourm Shark;50641175]Isnt this the most anti-islamic thing to do this month?[/QUOTE]"Islamic State" has nothing to do with Islam anymore.[/QUOTE] ISIS is formed of Sunnis. This was against a primarily Shia target. There is a lot of hatred between the Sunnis and Shiites and has been forever. This isn't some random attack and has everything to do with religion. Albeit an hardline side of it.
[QUOTE=TG2;50641191]Doesn't this happen every day there? This didn't break any records or anything, right?[/QUOTE] Dios mio, compadre.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50641031]This is what people are fleeing from.[/QUOTE] But it's also caused by people. It's not some random natural disaster, it's their people. Bringing in these people to your country (with no proven vetting procedure) will just bring these problems with them.
[QUOTE=orgornot;50641236]But it's also caused by people. It's not some random natural disaster, it's their people. Bringing in these people to your country (with no proven vetting procedure) will just bring these problems with them.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the kind of people running away from extremist terrorist are also the most likely to commit acts of terrorism themselves I hear. Or are you seriously suggesting that organized terrorist groups are waiting for an official, politically approved way into other countries and would otherwise just sit on their asses thinking how easy life would be if only they could slip in with a bunch of refugees, putting up with smugglers, border security, travel, and living in a refugee shelter instead of, you know, just infiltrating other countries in casual ways, spending their time doing mostly non-suspicious activities or even living seemingly normal lives before they strike, like actual terrorists fucking do
[QUOTE=H4ngman;50641246]Yeah, the kind of people running away from extremist terrorist are also the most likely to commit acts of terrorism themselves I hear. Or are you seriously suggesting that organized terrorist groups are waiting for an official, politically approved way into other countries and would otherwise just sit on their asses thinking how easy life would be if only they could slip in with a bunch of refugees, putting up with smugglers, border security, travel, and living in a refugee shelter instead of, you know, just infiltrating other countries in casual ways, spending their time doing mostly non-suspicious activities or even living seemingly normal lives before they strike, like actual terrorists fucking do[/QUOTE] I don't support a ban on Muslims, but you're being naive if you think ISIS isn't going to exploit the refugee system to send terrorists here. Think of it this way: they're working really hard to get people here when they have to deal with citizenship, visas, passports, etc. A refugee pipeline makes their job much easier. [editline]4th July 2016[/editline] Also what a stupid way to mischaracterize someone's argument. Nobody said those fleeing from terrorism are likely to be terrorists, grow up.
The Shites and Sonnes are probably the most disgusting groups in terms of senseless violence I have ever seen. Fighting and killing for shit that supposedly happened thousands of years ago or something. Pointless hatred probably the result of inbreeding to be honest. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Insensitive shitpost." - Bradyns))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=BioWaster;50641516]The [B]Shites and Sonnes[/B] are probably the most disgusting groups in terms of senseless violence I have ever seen. Fighting and killing for shit that supposedly happened thousands of years ago or something. Pointless hatred probably the result of inbreeding to be honest.[/QUOTE] You mean: muslims. (those are the two main muslim groups so you basically mean all muslims) And you are correct. The "moderate" muslims are just regressed. When asked how they really feel: [IMG]https://31.media.tumblr.com/3dbde8d5a74e6a433b9741da74e9e528/tumblr_inline_nhto8nLUTx1shhsz2.jpg[/IMG] Good luck filtering out the majority of them when they are pouring into your country.
[QUOTE=orgornot;50641540]And you are correct. The "moderate" muslims are just regressed. When asked how they really feel[/QUOTE] You gotta watch out here on ye old Facepunt. You're not allowed to generalise people or else you're a bad guy. Doesn't mean I disagree with you. They haven't been pulled and pushed to the 21st century like Catholicism and Christianity. We still have to work on the molestation's though, but violence is pretty good on our end atm.
[QUOTE=orgornot;50641540]You mean: muslims. (those are the two main muslim groups so you basically mean all muslims) And you are correct. The "moderate" muslims are just regressed. When asked how they really feel: [IMG]https://31.media.tumblr.com/3dbde8d5a74e6a433b9741da74e9e528/tumblr_inline_nhto8nLUTx1shhsz2.jpg[/IMG] Good luck filtering out the majority of them when they are pouring into your country.[/QUOTE] clearly the solution is to build a wall around all muslims
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;50641585]clearly the solution is to build a wall around all muslims[/QUOTE] The west (and east) could effectively either colonize or quarantine the entire muslim/arab world. If they're escaping to the west, why not bring the west to them instead? Imagine if the west had supported the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan instead of aiding what would later become the Taliban. There would have been a thriving civilized society there by now. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/1950s_Afghanistan_-_Biology_class,_Kabul_University.jpg[/IMG] (This is Afghan in the 1950s when women had rights)
[QUOTE=orgornot;50641236]But it's also caused by people. It's not some random natural disaster, it's their people. Bringing in these people to your country (with no proven vetting procedure) will just bring these problems with them.[/QUOTE] Maybe there's a slim chance that providing security, stability and peace for muslim refugees will reduce and undermine islamic extremism? I mean I dunno, it's generally worked so far with most religion in Europe.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50641662]Maybe there's a slim chance that providing security, stability and peace for muslim refugees will reduce and undermine islamic extremism? I mean I dunno, it's generally worked so far with most religion in Europe.[/QUOTE] Can you explain more in detail what you are referring to by that last sentence?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50641662]Maybe there's a slim chance that providing security, stability and peace for muslim refugees will reduce and undermine islamic extremism? I mean I dunno, it's generally worked so far with most religion in Europe.[/QUOTE] I don't think it does: [IMG]http://one-europe.info/user/files/Tanya/20140830_MAC990_2.png[/IMG] Not to mention the countless reports of rampant extremism being preached in European mosques.
[QUOTE=srobins;50641687]Can you explain more in detail what you are referring to by that last sentence?[/QUOTE] Sorry I didn't make that quite clear, I'm referring to the decline of christianity in europe for the last 200 years.
The the flying fuck is going on in this thread you fucking xenophobes. This is literally the same death toll as Paris but instead of saying "Wow this is horrible" you're talking about how [del]immigrants[/del] victims of mass terrorism fleeing their countries are probably radicals too. Islam didn't create radical Islam, the West did with neo-colonialism. You guys have [b]zero[/b] compassion when the people who are getting killed aren't relatable to your ethnicity or culture like with Paris.
-snip misread- [editline]4th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=orgornot;50641703]I don't think it does: [IMG]http://one-europe.info/user/files/Tanya/20140830_MAC990_2.png[/IMG] Not to mention the countless reports of rampant extremism being preached in European mosques.[/QUOTE] So the countries in Europe that have taken in the most refugees, aka Sweden and Germany, have the least amount of fighters in Syria per million population?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50641731]Sorry I didn't make that quite clear, I'm referring to the decline of christianity in europe for the last 200 years.[/QUOTE] How does that relate to accepting masses of Muslim immigrants into the West?
[QUOTE=Llamalord;50641768]The the flying fuck is going on in this thread you fucking xenophobes. This is literally the same death toll as Paris but instead of saying "Wow this is horrible" you're talking about how [del]immigrants[/del] victims of mass terrorism fleeing their countries are probably radicals too. Islam didn't create radical Islam, the West did with neo-colonialism. You guys have [B]zero[/B] compassion when the people who are getting killed aren't relatable to your ethnicity or culture like with Paris.[/QUOTE] When it happens [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_incidents_in_Iraq_in_2016"]so often[/URL] it becomes non-news, just a part of daily life. All radical islamic terrorism originates from that part of the world. When it happens in the west, it's unusual and we want to know what the root cause is so we can figure out a solution. We don't want to be on path that makes it daily life here too. And OP started this discussion by saying "This is what people are fleeing from" which was a good but still moot point. [editline]4th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=MrJazzy;50641771]-snip misread- [editline]4th July 2016[/editline] So the countries in Europe that have taken in the most refugees, aka Sweden and Germany, have the least amount of fighters in Syria per million population?[/QUOTE] I don't think that correlation means anything. The US accepts even less and Lebanon has accepted the most. Saudi has accepted none and still has a high number. Sweden's number is higher than Egypt, Turkey, and Kuwait.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;50641768]You guys have [b]zero[/b] compassion when the people who are getting killed aren't relatable to your ethnicity or culture like with Paris.[/QUOTE] I have plenty of compassion [B]and[/B] empathy, but I use common sense more. Makes sense to be wary of people coming from a place that indoctrinates you from birth and has a long history of violence.
[QUOTE=srobins;50641851]How does that relate to accepting masses of Muslim immigrants into the West?[/QUOTE] What masses? we already have "masses" of muslims living in the west. [editline]4th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=orgornot;50641859]I don't think that correlation means anything. The US accepts even less and Lebanon has accepted the most. Saudi has accepted none and still has a high number. Sweden's number is higher than Egypt, Turkey, and Kuwait.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm not sure what to make of those stats in the first place or what you meant by posting them in the first place.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;50641768]The the flying fuck is going on in this thread you fucking xenophobes. This is literally the same death toll as Paris but instead of saying "Wow this is horrible" you're talking about how [del]immigrants[/del] victims of mass terrorism fleeing their countries are probably radicals too. Islam didn't create radical Islam, the West did with neo-colonialism. You guys have [b]zero[/b] compassion when the people who are getting killed aren't relatable to your ethnicity or culture like with Paris.[/QUOTE] ffs Yes, you got it, The West(TM) sat down one day and thought "well, gee, wouldn't it be fun to create our own greatest enemy" and thus radical Islam was born - another entry on the ever-growing list of Evil(TM) things that The West(TM) is responsible for. All the problems in the world are the fault of the mysterious hive-mind entity which is The West(TM), and brown people are not capable of doing bad things of their own accord. Radical Islam hasn't become a problem because The West(TM) has created it, or because some people sat down one day and thought "Well, I sure would like to be a terrorist. Let's invent a reason". Radical Islam came into being because notable Islamic scholars read the Quran, interpreted the Quran, and shared that hard-line interpretation. Abu Bakr has a PHD in Islamic studies - he knows more about Islam than any middle class Euro/American 20-somethings on the internet could ever hope to. Regardless of whether that is the correct interpretation of the Quran, that is what has happened. If you want to blame any one entity for giving these people a platform, blame the Saudis. Or Iran. If you don't want dangerous Islamic radicalism in your country, don't import people who do. It's that simple. Hugs and flowers will not turn radicals into a peace-loving, contented people.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;50641768]...[del]immigrants[/del]victims of mass terrorism fleeing their countries are probably radicals too. [/QUOTE] You know that there will radicals/terrorists/criminals who will take advantage of that right?
[QUOTE=Vaegir Guard;50641972]You know that there will radicals/terrorists/criminals who will take advantage of that right?[/QUOTE] Evil people ALWAYS take advantage of kind people. It's like a law of nature or something.
Rest in peace. Condolences to those families who lost someone.
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