• FCC Ruling Approved: You can soon get Cable on Apple TV, Android, Google, Amazon, Etc.
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[url]http://nerdist.com/fcc-ruling-cable-apple-tv-android-tv-google-amazon/[/url] [media]https://twitter.com/TomWheelerFCC/status/700391896619839488[/media] [QUOTE]This week, the Federal Communications Commission ruled that you can get your cable through devices besides your company’s cable box. [B]The ruling means that instead of having to rent the box from, say, Time Warner or ATT Uverse, you will be able to add that subscription onto your Apple TV, Fire TV, Android TV and Roku boxes. You still have to have a cable subscription, but the massive rental fees will be a thing of the past.[/B] What does that really mean? Well, it’s going to give cable companies some competition and hopefully reduce the amount of money you have to spend every month. It’s not a done deal yet, but this is the first step in what is likely inevitable as industry standards change and people are cutting the cord in droves.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't that mean that each company would have to develop an app/channel/etc. calls it for each device? Couldn't they just, you know, not do that? I don't see this as meaning that you'll get cable through those devices, but rather you'll see bunches of third-party cable/satellite boxes online or at big box tech stores.
[QUOTE=Cock Boner;49782931]Wouldn't that mean that each company would have to develop an app/channel/etc. calls it for each device? Couldn't they just, you know, not do that? I don't see this as meaning that you'll get cable through those devices, but rather you'll see bunches of third-party cable/satellite boxes online or at big box tech stores.[/QUOTE] FCC is developing a software-based version of the cablecard which will replace the old physical one. cable companies will have to bow down to this ruling. There will be no need for a mandatory physical cablebox. you can run your cable through your chromecast thanks to this ruling.
I remember when people were scared Tom Wheeler was going to bow down to the corporations based on his previous history. Just goes to show that you should judge the content of a person by their actions and not their history.
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;49782978]I remember when people were scared Tom Wheeler was going to bow down to the corporations based on his previous history. Just goes to show that you should judge the content of a person by their actions and not their history.[/QUOTE] To be fair he [I]did[/I] do that for a while. Just really glad he changed.
who knows, maybe if the cable companies didnt abuse their customers with massive box rental fees, maybe there wouldn't have been this push to completely get rid of it (and the whole income from box rentals)
[QUOTE=Levelog;49782996]To be fair he [I]did[/I] do that for a while. Just really glad he changed.[/QUOTE] IIRC His falling out started with a little bit before the thing that eventually caused net neutrality, it showed him how out of touch with reality the cable companies were, While Comcast and Time Warner trying simultaneously to merge.
Does anyone know if the ruling also applies to satellite TV providers? I'm tired of the overpriced, underpowered Hopper DISH has.
[QUOTE=Wii60;49782940]FCC is developing a software-based version of the cablecard which will replace the old physical one. cable companies will have to bow down to this ruling. There will be no need for a mandatory physical cablebox. you can run your cable through your chromecast thanks to this ruling.[/QUOTE] That makes more sense. Thanks for clearing that up.
Holy shit. This is actually pretty fantastic. I haven't had cable for seven years due to the companies exhorbitant pricing models. I haven't missed it too dang much, what with Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu (Netflix's embarrassing cousin), but if this could lead to more competitive pricing as a result of being able to stream standard cable then it would be hard to say no.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49783195]Holy shit. This is actually pretty fantastic. I haven't had cable for seven years due to the companies exhorbitant pricing models. I haven't missed it too dang much, what with Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu (Netflix's embarrassing cousin), but if this could lead to more competitive pricing as a result of being able to stream standard cable then it would be hard to say no.[/QUOTE] note that for the moment (as far as it seems to read) this is only allowing other companies to sell the boxes that allow people to use the cable connection routed to every home? you still have to get internet through these scumbag providers who limit your data and streaming abilities
[QUOTE=Cock Boner;49782931]Wouldn't that mean that each company would have to develop an app/channel/etc. calls it for each device? Couldn't they just, you know, not do that? I don't see this as meaning that you'll get cable through those devices, but rather you'll see bunches of third-party cable/satellite boxes online or at big box tech stores.[/QUOTE] much like SIM cards and router standards, the cable card was standerdized back in the 90s, what i find ironic is that they are justifying their protests by saying this will somehow drag the industry down, because people are ditching cable en mass, i can't understand how they are opposing this, at the end of the day, they're going to pick up subscribers if they just become another section on people's appleTVs, but they have a duty to complain at every turn
[QUOTE=Sableye;49783208]i can't understand how they are opposing this[/QUOTE] Corporate 101: Focus on short term gains. They're focusing solely on short term losses they'll incur from loss of rental fees. A lot of corporations focus solely on short term gains. Long term tends to be more of a gamble than the short term.
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;49782978] Just goes to show that you should judge the content of a person by their actions and not their history.[/QUOTE] what the fuck does that mean? judge someone based on their future? I'm not a goddamn wizard.
[QUOTE=Wii60;49782940]FCC is developing a software-based version of the cablecard which will replace the old physical one. cable companies will have to bow down to this ruling. There will be no need for a mandatory physical cablebox. you can run your cable through your chromecast thanks to this ruling.[/QUOTE] Does this mean physical cable boxes will be downgraded to optional instead of mandatory, or will they be completely phased out?
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;49783731]Does this mean physical cable boxes will be downgraded to optional instead of mandatory, or will they be completely phased out?[/QUOTE] optional will def happen. the other one is potentially possible. this ruling basically makes it so instead of getting a shit motorola comcast unit that you pay rental fees on you can just go to your local best buy/amazon website/whatever and buy something off the shelf to watch tv. if you switch providers no one probably has to come to your house to fuck with shit. this means though that comcast and friends will probably make the internet alot harder to get for cheap in order to force you to use their boxes.
This could be a good thing for cable companies in the long run as well, sure they might see a reduction in rental fee's but now all their content is way more accessible which leads to more viewership A lot of people still gonna rent these damn boxes anyway, you see this with ISP modems. Its cheaper to go buy one off the shelf but most people just pay the monthly fee for it.
[QUOTE=Saxon;49785799]This could be a good thing for cable companies in the long run as well, sure they might see a reduction in rental fee's but now all their content is way more accessible which leads to more viewership A lot of people still gonna rent these damn boxes anyway, you see this with ISP modems. Its cheaper to go buy one off the shelf but most people just pay the monthly fee for it.[/QUOTE] Ya I see cable companies just selling a box you plug in and it does TV, internet and phone at some point
[QUOTE=Wii60;49783747]optional will def happen. the other one is potentially possible. this ruling basically makes it so instead of getting a shit motorola comcast unit that you pay rental fees on you can just go to your local best buy/amazon website/whatever and buy something off the shelf to watch tv. if you switch providers no one probably has to come to your house to fuck with shit. this means though that comcast and friends will probably make the internet alot harder to get for cheap in order to force you to use their boxes.[/QUOTE] The devices referenced in the OP are all very inexpensive and small, though, so it's still not buying a full ass cable box, which is great. [t]http://cdn.bgr.com/2010/12/21appletv.jpeg[/t] It's a small little unit, usually USB. I'm sure Apple's is very expensive, but the others mentioned are only about $50-60.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49785982]Ya I see cable companies just selling a box you plug in and it does TV, internet and phone at some point[/QUOTE] Pretty sure that's what AT&T's does.
does this new system allow us to DVR shit too or is it just for live tv?
This should bring us back to the days of "cable ready" tvs where we actually use the internal tv tuners.
[QUOTE=meppers;49786177]does this new system allow us to DVR shit too or is it just for live tv?[/QUOTE] maybe if the third party hardware you get supports it
[QUOTE=meppers;49786177]does this new system allow us to DVR shit too or is it just for live tv?[/QUOTE] thats the other annoying thing. commercial DVRs can do amazing things, virtually every network has their own giant DVR that records everything, thats how the daily show for example, got so good, but consumer DVRs have been limited in function, features, and accessibility purely because cable companies don't want them to be convenient. there's nothing stopping TW or Comcast right now from selling a DVR that lets you record every show you want and watch them back later later in a netflix like interface, for a long time they made it so you could only record 1 show at a time, then they bumped it up to 2 shows! and in a couple years, they'll bump it up to 3 shows! but they've had the capability to record as many shows as they want, the limiting factor has been processor and harddrives, both of which could easily be beefed up on cable boxes today
[QUOTE=Sableye;49786710] but they've had the capability to record as many shows as they want, the limiting factor has been processor and harddrives, both of which could easily be beefed up on cable boxes today[/QUOTE] This isnt true, the real limiting factor for recording is the amount of tuners in the box has. You cant tune to every channel at the same time.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49786710]thats the other annoying thing. commercial DVRs can do amazing things, virtually every network has their own giant DVR that records everything, thats how the daily show for example, got so good, but consumer DVRs have been limited in function, features, and accessibility purely because cable companies don't want them to be convenient. there's nothing stopping TW or Comcast right now from selling a DVR that lets you record every show you want and watch them back later later in a netflix like interface, for a long time they made it so you could only record 1 show at a time, then they bumped it up to 2 shows! and in a couple years, they'll bump it up to 3 shows! but they've had the capability to record as many shows as they want, the limiting factor has been processor and harddrives, both of which could easily be beefed up on cable boxes today[/QUOTE] Part of the issue with recording many HD shows is bandwidth, though. [editline]21st February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Cmx;49787557]This isnt true, the real limiting factor for recording is the amount of tuners in the box has. You cant tune to every channel at the same time.[/QUOTE] Also this
Assuming the prices are okay, I might actually start watching cable channels. I really only want 3 or 4 channels anyways
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49787617]Assuming the prices are okay, I might actually start watching cable channels. I really only want 3 or 4 channels anyways[/QUOTE] theres already a cable provider thats trying to be purely internet based called sling. apparently Dish Network owns it. [url]https://www.sling.com/[/url] 20$/month unless you want HBO with it or something. only problem is you can watch only one sling stream at a time.
Wouldn't this mean cable companies will have to transition to IPTV to allow the use of such devices like Apple TV and Roku? Most telcos already have an IPTV system in place, like AT&T and Verizon.
[QUOTE=ghost901;49788203]Wouldn't this mean cable companies will have to transition to IPTV to allow the use of such devices like Apple TV and Roku?[/QUOTE] I'd imagine you'll still require the trusty 'ole coax cable, but companies like Apple and Roku will be able to implement coax ports into their devices to act as cable boxes.
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