Hey FP,
Hope i can place my question here..
So i recently got my new Skynet PC and my old PC is running next to me, it has a decent graphic card (ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB) and it could play some nice LAN games so i want to know the following.
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Since my PC is upstairs, can i just play games just using the a internet cable thats not forwarded by a router?
A direct connection between those (just 1 cable going from PC 1 to PC 2)
Some ethernet cards can do crosslink by themselves.
Try it.
[QUOTE=bootv2;28151067]only if you're using a crosslink lan cable, and you'd have to configure the ip adresses yourself.[/QUOTE]
Almost any computer made after 2005 can auto "crosslink" a straight-tru cable and vice-versa
[editline]19th February 2011[/editline]
Nevermind, can't read today :suicide:
Do you got any cards that have multiple Ethernet ports?
[img]http://www.plaatjesupload.nl/bekijk/2011/02/19/1298132862-820.png[/img]
I am using that
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[QUOTE=darth-veger;28152082]Do you got any cards that have multiple Ethernet ports?
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You'd just have to bridge the two ethernet ports on PC1 in windows
You've got to have a crossover ethernet cable, and you have to bridge your two connections together.
[url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc783728(WS.10).aspx[/url]
This is what i did
[img]http://cold.netburst.co.uk/file/SS-2011-02-19_22.23.27.png[/img]
2 Spliters 1 at the PC side 1 at the Router side. you can send 2 signals true the 1 cable. And yes you can use both devices(computers) at the same time.
Make your own splitter [url]http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-your-own-Ethernet-%22splitter%22/[/url]
PS. 10/100 Connections only.
I don't think you need a switch for the router side of it ColdFusion.
[QUOTE=ChristopherB;28152992]I don't think you need a switch for the router side of it ColdFusion.[/QUOTE]
You do need it.
Ethernet uses Cat5 cables. 100bit Connections only use 4 out of 8 wires. 1000bit Connections use all 8 wires. If you don't use the switch on the router side. the router wont communicate with the other PC.
[QUOTE=ColdFusion;28153101]You do need it.
Ethernet uses Cat5 cables. 100bit Connections only use 4 out of 8 wires. 1000bit Connections use all 8 wires. If you don't use the switch on the router side. the router wont communicate with the other PC.[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly certain you are wrong. A switch can share a single connection between multiple devices. There is no need to "split" the signal again at the other end. You only need one switch and a router if you intend to connect the machines to the internet. I've done this on my own networks several times before.
[editline]19th February 2011[/editline]
Ok, I just followed the Instructables link you posted and we are talking about two different things. The method on Instructables is having you ghetto rig two ethernet ports through a single cable [b]using a splitter[/b]. If you install [b]a switch[/b] none of that hassle is necessary.
This is a switch: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127085[/url]
I'm pretty sure it can go from the router through the powerline things to a single switch. If it doesn't then my fundamental understanding of networking is terribly wrong. My modem, with a single Cat6 cable, goes to a router that splits the connection between 3 devices. One is my desktop, another is a personal server, and the last one is an access point with 2 computers hooked up to it.
Under your model, my modem would require 3 Cat6 cables and my router would need 5 ports just to get 100BaseT to all devices, when I currently have 1 Cat6 cable from my modem that provides 1000BaseT to all my devices, and I'm only using 3 ports on my router for it.
So should basically buy a splitter for it?
Simplest solution is to buy a switch. Then you just plug it in as shown below.
[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/nyfr00.png[/IMG]
You can do it with as many computers as you have ports for. Most consumer-grade switches have between 5 and 10 ports. One port is for the incoming connection from the router, the others are for your computers, network printers, etc.
[QUOTE=ChristopherB;28153619]I'm fairly certain you are wrong. A switch can share a single connection between multiple devices. There is no need to "split" the signal again at the other end. You only need one switch and a router if you intend to connect the machines to the internet. I've done this on my own networks several times before.
[editline]19th February 2011[/editline]
Ok, I just followed the Instructables link you posted and we are talking about two different things. The method on Instructables is having you ghetto rig two ethernet ports through a single cable [b]using a splitter[/b]. If you install [b]a switch[/b] none of that hassle is necessary.
This is a switch: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127085[/url][/QUOTE]
Sorry should have used the word splitter :|.
[QUOTE=ColdFusion;28153101]You do need it.
Ethernet uses Cat5 cables. 100bit Connections only use 4 out of 8 wires. 1000bit Connections use all 8 wires. If you don't use the switch on the router side. the router wont communicate with the other PC.[/QUOTE]
"Ethernet" isn't a singular networking standard, it encompasses an entire range of standards, all of which use many different types of cables. Common cable types in the past 20 years are AUI, BNC, Cat3, Cat4, Cat5, Cat5e, Cat6, etc. 1000BaseT requires Cat5e or Cat6 and will suffer signal degradation on Cat5 from crosstalk and either will be unreliable or will revert to 100BaseT.
[QUOTE=bohb;28164610]"Ethernet" isn't a singular networking standard, it encompasses an entire range of standards, all of which use many different types of cables. Common cable types in the past 20 years are AUI, BNC, Cat3, Cat4, Cat5, Cat5e, Cat6, etc. 1000BaseT requires Cat5e or Cat6 and will suffer signal degradation on Cat5 from crosstalk and either will be unreliable or will revert to 100BaseT.[/QUOTE]
Any excuse to go and spew out all your wonderful knowledge!
I'm not complaining, I find a lot of what you say useful.
[QUOTE=ColdFusion;28153101]You do need it.
Ethernet uses Cat5 cables. 100bit Connections only use 4 out of 8 wires. 1000bit Connections use all 8 wires. If you don't use the switch on the router side. the router wont communicate with the other PC.[/QUOTE]
This might be the silliest thing i have ever read.
Yes you can run 100mbit over only 4 of the 8 wires in a normal cat5 cable, but what sane person would go through all the trouble of splitting a single cable, recrimping it 2 times on either end, for seemingly the same purpose you could use 2 cables.
unless you happen to have a crimping tool and a few spare RJ45 plugs laying around...
[QUOTE=Bladerunner1;28165770]This might be the silliest thing i have ever read.
Yes you can run 100mbit over only 4 of the 8 wires in a normal cat5 cable, but what sane person would go through all the trouble of splitting a single cable, recrimping it 2 times on either end, for seemingly the same purpose you could use 2 cables.
unless you happen to have a crimping tool and a few spare RJ45 plugs laying around...[/QUOTE]
It makes more sense to do the above method (using a splitter) if your house is hard-wired with ethernet ports but you don't have enough ports available in a room; running an extra cable, in that case, is not an option. I still say it's much easier to buy a switch for $20 and be able to connect 4 or more devices to the network.
[QUOTE=ChristopherB;28170266]It makes more sense to do the above method (using a splitter) if your house is hard-wired with ethernet ports but you don't have enough ports available in a room; running an extra cable, in that case, is not an option. I still say it's much easier to buy a switch for $20 and be able to connect 4 or more devices to the network.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166035]or for 12 dollars[/url]
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