I've been using Ubuntu for 6 hours and it's been hellish. Even though it's advertised as some friendly version of Linux, it's far away from being friendly.
1. Why does every tutorial require a terminal?
When ever I try downloading software and reading a guide of it online it's always using the terminal. Even when they're moving objects they're using the terminal as well. Why don't tutorials move their move object with the GUI? Is it cooler to use the terminal?
2. The software is messy and already I feel like I fucked up my Ubuntu installation. I've been trying to install Google Chrome and then I realize there is no flash player. Since i'm using 64-bit Google Chrome, I had to do a bunch of terminal commands that I didn't understand what the hell I was doing on a tutorial. Then I tried installing the unstable version of Google Chrome and after I uninstalled the normal Google Chrome I tried installing it and got some errors such as some thing about package dependence. Also the sound doesn't work since I'm using a sound card. I read a tutorial of it online and the instructions are absolutely brick-shitting. I tried using this tutorial([url]http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=285019[/url]) and on the link I clicked on Xonar D1 Details and the commands don't even work on Ubuntu 10.04. It would always say unrecognized command. Then on the fourth post I tried typing in 'sudo alsaconf' and the command wasn't recognized.
Can anyone tell me why they use Linux? It's definitely less friendly then your neighborhood hero Spiderman. I haven't completely gave up on Ubuntu yet but I feel like it.
It's "Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman".
I dont like ubuntu, it always feels bloated and messy. Also: The terminal is awesome.
There's one thing we mush check: Did you use Wubi to install? If so it is the cause of about 99% of your problems.
Tutorials use the terminal because:
- In the linux world you'll have to use it and learn to use it.
- It is more efficient than GUIs
- The terminal never changes (GUI applications are all different)
- It's much easier to tell you to run a command than to guide you through every single fucking click that you'll have to perform (The GUI might also change with different version rendering the tutorial pointless)
- Not everyone uses Gnome with the default setup. Using the terminal allow you to write a tutorial that will apply to about every other ubuntu based system. Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.
As for why I use Linux. I find it to be the system that allows me to be in complete control of my computer. I install only the stuff I want on my system. I also manage it fully. No (or almost no) super one click automatic shit.
You can't just jump into linux playing the dummy card. Yes ubuntu is more user friendly than Gentoo or even Arch. The problem is that you can't simply expect it to do everything for you and expect that you'll need to learn about nothing. There's a learning curve. Linux gives you great power and you have to learn how to use it.
If you don't like Gnome then welcome to the club. There are many other desktop environments you can try. You can look into KDE or Xfce which are fairly easy on the user.
[QUOTE=Boris-B;23452311]There's one thing we mush check: Did you use Wubi to install? If so it is the cause of about 99% of your problems.
Tutorials use the terminal because:
- In the linux world you'll have to use it and learn to use it.
- It is more efficient than GUIs
- The terminal never changes (GUI applications are all different)
- It's much easier to tell you to run a command than to guide you through every single fucking click that you'll have to perform (The GUI might also change with different version rendering the tutorial pointless)
- Not everyone uses Gnome with the default setup. Using the terminal allow you to write a tutorial that will apply to about every other ubuntu based system. Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.
As for why I use Linux. I find it to be the system that allows me to be in complete control of my computer. I install only the stuff I want on my system. I also manage it fully. No (or almost no) super one click automatic shit.
You can't just jump into linux playing the dummy card. Yes ubuntu is more user friendly than Gentoo or even Arch. The problem is that you can't simply expect it to do everything for you and expect that you'll need to learn about nothing. There's a learning curve. Linux gives you great power and you have to learn how to use it.
If you don't like Gnome then welcome to the club. There are many other desktop environments you can try. You can look into KDE or Xfce which are fairly easy on the user.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for responding. Sadly though, my problems are not caused by Wubi, I didn't install using Wubi.
That's good news, There is hope. Your problems are fixable...
[QUOTE=Boris-B;23452376]That's good news, There is hope. Your problems are fixable...[/QUOTE]
What's so bad about the Wubi installation?
It has a tendency to make bad installations. Not everything is setup right. I don't know what happens exactly, but I know that most Wubi installations cause problems.
What Wubi does is install ubuntu in a big file (In windows). Then it boots from it using the windows bootloader.
[QUOTE=Boris-B;23454396]It has a tendency to make bad installations. Not everything is setup right. I don't know what happens exactly, but I know that most Wubi installations cause problems.
What Wubi does is install ubuntu in a big file (In windows). Then it boots from it using the windows bootloader.[/QUOTE]
I see, I'm trying Ubuntu again right now(This post is typed in Ubuntu) and I would kill for some sound from my Xonar D1 in there. How would I get sound working? NEVERMIND I GOT IT WORKING!
YESH YESH
I need some help, when I go on hardware drivers, it asks me if I want to install Nvidia accelerated graphics driver version 173 or recommended. What do I pick? They don't show the version on Recommended.
Ubuntu is always buggy as hell. I'd recommend something not Ubuntu like Fedora.
for the accelerated graphics driver, install recommended.
I use Linux because I have full control over everything that runs, everything that installs, everything.
I think you should read this:
[url]http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm[/url]
I use it because I don't want to buy windows for all of my computers
It's free.
I use it because...
[list]
[*]Easier to maintain
[*]You know exactly what going on
[*]Its secure
[*]Its free
[*]Faster
[*]Great community
[*]Installing programs with APT is way easier
[/list]
The list could go on.
The price is right.
Python is preinstalled. :D
Terminals are fun.
Simple package management.
Full customizability.
Not a resource hog. ([b]cough[/b] except kde and gnome... [b]cough[/b])
Infinitely more stable.
Swap sounds cooler than Paged Files. (but swap is also just better in general)
Better file systems, more file systems.
Doesn't dumb things down for the user. (Lettered drives... >.>)
Linux enlarges our ePeens.
[QUOTE=<ToD> Aaron;23468927]The price is right.
Python is preinstalled. :D
Terminals are fun.
Simple package management.
Full customizability.
Not a resource hog. ([b]cough[/b] except kde and gnome... [b]cough[/b])
Infinitely more stable.
Swap sounds cooler than Paged Files. (but swap is also just better in general)
Better file systems, more file systems.
Doesn't dumb things down for the user. (Lettered drives... >.>)
[b]Linux enlarges our ePeens.[/b][/QUOTE]
This man speaks the truth!
I've gotten to a point where i'm comfortable with my Ubuntu installation. I'd say it's good but the only thing keeping my dual boot together is gaming on Windows. WINE doesn't do a sufficient job with video games. I feel like trying out other distros though. What would be a good distro for someone like me other else than Ubuntu?
Linux mint is pretty nice.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;23457865]Ubuntu is always buggy as hell. I'd recommend something not Ubuntu like Fedora.[/QUOTE]
This - Fedora is just as good on my laptop as it is on my server.
Yeah, fedora's nice as well.
OP: Read this please.
[url]http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;23480433]OP: Read this please.
[url]http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;23459112]for the accelerated graphics driver, install recommended.
I use Linux because I have full control over everything that runs, everything that installs, everything.
I think you should read this:
[url]http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
gj
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;23457865]Ubuntu is always buggy as hell. I'd recommend something not Ubuntu like Fedora.[/QUOTE]
I saw your posts about Fedora being better than Ubuntu. So my friend wanted to get into linux and I suggested Fedora, having only used it for maybe 15 minutes of my life. It is a hell of a lot less user friendly than Ubuntu. I had to step in and do a lot of shit for him, and it there were several bugs. I tried Fedora out for my netbook and liked it more than Ubuntu for the most part, but I ended up having to put Xubuntu onto my netbook since Fedora was just too buggy. It might be that my friend and I had bad luck, but Fedora was not that great.
The point of it is to still have those friendly controls and gui and drivers
but underneath a powerful cli which is actually way more useful so all community tutorials usually use it
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;23480528]gj[/QUOTE]
Oops - I didn't see your post, sorry! I guess we felt the same way =D
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