Teen Stabbed, Everyone just watches and walks away
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[url]http://westchester.news12.com/teen-left-unattended-after-being-stabbed-in-getty-square-1.4824179[/url]
[quote=News12]YONKERS - A teenager was attacked in the heart of Yonkers on Friday and was left to fend for himself as a group of bystanders looked on.
Witnesses say two teenagers stabbed another teen in Getty Square at around 4:30 p.m [/quote]
I'm quite annoyed at this, Especially since I was officially accepted to the Youth Advisory Board today to curb stuff like this (Teen Crime)
[QUOTE=Crash15;39929953]This is just carelessness[/QUOTE]
Nope, just bystander effect.
[quote]YONKERS - A teenager was attacked in the heart of Yonkers on Friday and was left to fend for himself as a group of bystanders looked on.[/quote]
Do they have to start articles with the name of the location? I mean, it just looks so bad in this case.
Just got stabbed? Yonkers! Better call an ambulance!
[QUOTE=Paramud;39930002]Do they have to start articles with the name of the location? I mean, it just looks so bad in this case.
Just got stabbed? Yonkers! Better call an ambulance![/QUOTE]
It's pretty nice to know where things happen especially if you happen to live there.
I'm starting to believe the 'bystander effect' is a condition that is unique to the people who reside in New York.
[QUOTE=TheBrokenHobo;39930012]It's pretty nice to know where things happen especially if you happen to live there.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but it says where it is a mere 9 words later.
[QUOTE=Jin;39930035]I'm starting to believe the 'bystander effect' is a condition that is unique to the people who reside in New York.[/QUOTE]
Happens everywhere. I live in Berlin and I read shit like this every two weeks in the local newpaper.
Ofc its Yonkers
fucking dangerous place
Once I took a train and had to transfer at Yonkers.
I saw two puerto rican women fighting with knives
Immediately went back to NYC
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;39929956][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect[/url][/QUOTE]
[b]To the extreme.[/b]
[QUOTE=Webby2020;39930107]Ofc its Yonkers
fucking dangerous place
Once I took a train and had to transfer at Yonkers.
I saw two puerto rican women fighting with knives
Immediately went back to NYC[/QUOTE]
Not actually, Crime rates have dropped dramatically here.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;39929956][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect[/url][/QUOTE]
i still don't understand this mentality, even if the victim had others helping him I'd still go over and see if there was anything I could do to help
I wonder what the kid did to have people mad enough to stab him, shame people just watched
It's pretty much the exact same thing than what happened in the murder of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Genovese]Kitty Genovese[/url]. It's mostly a byproduct of how the American law system works where good intentions with less than expected results are the same as bad intentions, basically nobody wants to get involved because they'll get sued, or detained by the police and forced to go through the pain of being a witness in a trial. They could even be tried as accomplices if they get involved and the person dies. And even worse, they can be tried for being there and not doing anything according to Good Samaritan laws. So what onlookers do is just turn around, go on their merry way and pretend that nothing happened, let somebody else take care of it.
Problem is, nobody is going to take care of it if EVERYONE thinks that somebody else will take care of it, it's called diffusion of responsibility, and this kind of stuff, the way how altruism has been demonized by the legal system, claims and will continue to claim lives until the culture of the duty to rescue, is rescued.
[QUOTE=Trumple;39930124]i still don't understand this mentality, even if the victim had others helping him I'd still go over and see if there was anything I could do to help[/QUOTE]
all of us like to think we would go in and help. hell, many of us legitimately would. it just so happens that your willingness to actually help goes down the more people there are around you. it's a strange phenomenon. the more people, the less people think it should be [i]them[/i] who takes action.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;39929956][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect[/url][/QUOTE]
bystander effect...
"In general, this is believed to happen because as the number of bystanders increases, any given bystander is less likely to notice the situation, interpret the incident as a problem, and less likely to assume responsibility for taking action"
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Yea I couldn't tell if that kid was getting the shit stabbed out of him or if that was just a broadway play!
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fuckin morons
Holy shit, I live real close to there. Like, a town or two over. Crazy when shit hits home.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;39930289]Holy shit, I live real close to there. Like, a town or two over. Crazy when shit hits home.[/QUOTE]
Westchester County? Sup.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;39929956][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect[/url][/QUOTE]
This is why you have to be the one to do something first. Once one person steps in, other people will too.
[QUOTE=CubeManv2;39930319]Westchester County? Sup.[/QUOTE]
5 minutes right outside the border. Putnam County.
The bystander effect is insane. What can compel a person to just walk past an injured person in need, bleeding all over the floor? Good God, I'm glad the guy survived.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39929997]Nope, just bystander effect.[/QUOTE]
This is not the bystander effect anymore. This is carelessness. This is letting an attempted murder happen.
This is basically helping with an attempted murder, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Jin;39930035]I'm starting to believe the 'bystander effect' is a condition that is unique to the people who reside in New York.[/QUOTE]
The more people, the higher the chance of the bystander effect.
There was one video I watched where they had a gay and lesbian couple go into a restaurant and a waiter would start to throw a hissy fit over them. They wanted to see how people would react and if anyone would defend them. This experiment was done in two places: New Jersey (I think) and Texas. Ironically enough, people in Texas were more willing to defend the gay and lesbian couple. People in Texas are closer to each other than they are in the big city.
It's funny. The closer in distance you are with people, the farther away you are from them and vice versa.
[editline]16th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=UntouchedShadow;39930522]The bystander effect is insane. What can compel a person to just walk past an injured person in need, bleeding all over the floor? Good God, I'm glad the guy survived.[/QUOTE]
[i]It's not my problem[/i]
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;39930577]
[i]It's not my problem[/i][/QUOTE]
Anyone who genuinely thinks that, walking by a stab victom, is a terrible fucking person.
[QUOTE=Jin;39930035]I'm starting to believe the 'bystander effect' is a condition that is unique to the people who reside in New York.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because it's one of the most densely populated places there is; bystander effect becomes significantly more powerful the more people there are.
You might as well believe that drowning is unique to the ocean.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;39930591]Anyone who genuinely thinks that, walking by a stab victom, is a terrible fucking person.[/QUOTE]
He's wrong, that's not the bystander effect.
The bystander effect is less "Not my problem," and more "This is a big crowd, there's probably a doctor or a nurse or someone much more qualified to help here."
Which is still dumb as fuck but it's more understandable than just being a callous wanker.
bystander effect is actually surreal if you have ever been put in that position. it's a weird feeling because you feel you should do something, but at the same time when everyone else isn't doing something it feels like...the right thing to do. you question whether you should actually act or if this is some sort of joke or facade. you think that maybe you don't know the full story, the other people aren't doing anything so maybe there's a reason why you shouldn't act.
it isn't really stupidity, it's confusion and self-doubt.
it's really weird and i can see why people can often fall prey to it. if you aren't conscious of the phenomenon you are pretty much helpless to it.
[QUOTE=find me;39930260]bystander effect...
"In general, this is believed to happen because as the number of bystanders increases, any given bystander is less likely to notice the situation, interpret the incident as a problem, and less likely to assume responsibility for taking action"
fuckin morons[/QUOTE]
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"In general, this is believed to happen because as the number of bystanders increases, any given bystander is less likely to notice the situation, interpret the incident as a problem, [B]and less likely to assume responsibility for taking action[/B]"
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[editline]16th March 2013[/editline]
You're the moron here.
I don't want to seem callous but to tell the truth if I saw a stranger getting stabbed, I wouldn't risk helping them. I'd call the cops and an ambulance sure, but there isn't any chance that I'd risk getting stabbed myself. I'm a coward and as much as I'd want to help them, I'm just not good Samaritan material.
And anyone who is committing a violent crime is likely as the very least twice as fit as I am.
Or course if it was someone I knew I'd help.
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