[quote][B]"Pre-ticked" boxes on shopping websites will be banned in European Union states under newly approved legislation.[/B]EU ministers meeting in Luxembourg have[URL="http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/11/675&type=HTML"]passed a set of rules[/URL] aimed at strengthening consumer rights, which the [URL="http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/11/450&format=HTML&aged=1&language=EN&guiLanguage=en"]EU parliament backed in June[/URL].
They mean online traders will have to disclose the total cost of a product - including fees - and customers will have to actively opt-in to extras.[/quote]
[quote]Changes included in the new legislation will mean:
Consumers must explicitly confirm that they understand that they have to pay a price
Traders have to disclose the total cost of the product or service, as well as any extra fees
Additional options will not be offered via pre-ticked boxes
Consumers have 14 days to withdraw from a sales contract agreed to outside a shop - for example online or on their doorstep
The EU will provide an optional withdrawal form for consumers to use
Traders must refund customers within 14 days
Information on digital products - such as software compatibility - will need to be clearer
There will be a single set of core rules for distance contracts and off-premises contracts across the EU[/quote]
This seems very sensible. I hate having pre-ticked boxes on shopping websites. If I want to select an option, I'll select it myself, thanks.
[URL=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15260748]Source.[/url]
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...thank god that's gone.
And this is why I love Europe, because the men upstairs think the same way as us regulares.
Same as when they demanded that all smartphones use the same cable, because everyone's tired of that bs with having to find the right connector.
Sadly since Norway isn't in EU this won't count for us.
Well, doing something sensible for once.. doesn't make up for their past fuck-ups, though.
doesn't that mean the UK pornography ban is pretty much useless if that happens?
(it's actually a box that is pre-ticked on a page you get the first time you connect)
Now it's just going to be.
[ ] Do you [SUB]not[/SUB] want to be spammed with viagra adverts?
EU, the best god-damned union in the world.
[QUOTE=1239the;32741858]Now it's just going to be.
[ ] Do you [SUB]not[/SUB] want to be spammed with viagra adverts?[/QUOTE]
Seriously, when you think about it this is the most pointless initiative ever.
The EU should just keep their oversized cock out of other people's business.
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You lot that are rating me dumb/disagree - you do realise this is an easily exploited and redundant law? You should be checking what you're agreeing to, not governments. They can still get around this by saying "Opt out of first class delivery" or "Opt out of receiving our hourly newsletter" meaning this law has solved nothing.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;32741643]doesn't that mean the UK pornography ban is pretty much useless if that happens?
(it's actually a box that is pre-ticked on a page you get the first time you connect)[/QUOTE]
what on earth are you talking about
This can be a bit bad in some cases
But fuck the good of this outweights the possible bad by far
Did they REALLY need a law for this? It's like they had nothing better to do so they decided to end the terrible scourge of... pre-ticked website boxes. This isn't even consumer rights, this is an assumption of consumer stupidity. And nobody thinks it's a little crazy that the government can control something on the internet of multiple countries?
[QUOTE=dogmachines;32743017]Did they REALLY need a law for this? It's like they had nothing better to do so they decided to end the terrible scourge of... pre-ticked website boxes. This isn't even consumer rights, this is an assumption of consumer stupidity. And nobody thinks it's a little crazy that the government can control something on the internet of multiple countries?[/QUOTE]
It's a matter of convenience, like smartphone chargers.
I don't know about you, but when quickly shooting through the boxes on certain websites, it's quite easy to miss one and end up with a load of spam that you've gotta unsign yourself from .(which can sometimes be a bit irritating)
[QUOTE=Terminutter;32743070]It's a matter of convenience, like smartphone chargers.
I don't know about you, but when quickly shooting through the boxes on certain websites, it's quite easy to miss one and end up with a load of spam that you've gotta unsign yourself from .(which can sometimes be a bit irritating)[/QUOTE] I understand it's a matter of convenience, but does that mean the government should legislate it? It's convenient for me that lots of restaurants offer to let you take your left-overs with you. That doesn't mean the government should make them let me.
The thing is that this can potentially cost the end user money, as it could be as simple as "yes, I want laptop insurance" checked by default and hidden at the bottom of a long list of options, which could cost you a sizable chunk of cash. Leftovers in restaurants are something that doesn't cost you extra, it's just a nice bonus.
Then again, being able to keep leftovers is something that'd be quite nice to legislate, although portions here are normally enough for one meal with no leftovers.
A pleasant change from ruining children's birthday parties, I think.
[sp]http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/276514/Now-Euro-killjoys-ban-children-s-party-toys[/sp]
[QUOTE=gamerman345;32743674]A pleasant change from ruining children's birthday parties, I think.
[sp]http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/276514/Now-Euro-killjoys-ban-children-s-party-toys[/sp][/QUOTE]
Did you just quote the Daily Express?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
It's even fucking worse than the Mail, and that gets you laughed off any thread, and for good reason.
[QUOTE=1239the;32741858]Now it's just going to be.
[ ] Do you [SUB]not[/SUB] want to be spammed with viagra adverts?[/QUOTE]
This already happens with forms you fill out with a pen and paper, they often have boxes saying "I do not want my information to be given to third parties" or something like that, and people miss ticking them and don't realise it. This law basically changes nothing.
[QUOTE=Tools;32741258]And this is why I love Europe, because the men upstairs think the same way as us regulares.
Same as when they demanded that all smartphones use the same cable, because everyone's tired of that bs with having to find the right connector.[/QUOTE]
And some things, they understand fuckall about. Like forcing governments to outsource their projects, it causes great delays and security flaws here in The Netherlands.
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[QUOTE=Hiccuper;32745996]This already happens with forms you fill out with a pen and paper, they often have boxes saying "I do not want my information to be given to third parties" or something like that, and people miss ticking them and don't realise it. This law basically changes nothing.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure purposely misleading customers is also illegal.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;32743715]Did you just quote the Daily Express?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
It's even fucking worse than the Mail, and that gets you laughed off any thread, and for good reason.[/QUOTE]
Wooooo for individuality.
No, it just happens to the most clear article I could find in google.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."
the EU is really great
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8816601/Children-to-be-banned-from-blowing-up-balloons-under-EU-safety-rules.html[/url]
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I'm pretty sure purposely misleading customers is also illegal.[/QUOTE]
They're not misleading them, it's right there, black and white, your eye just sometimes skims over things it expects to be there.
[QUOTE=Hiccuper;32751288]They're not misleading them, it's right there, black and white, your eye just sometimes skims over things it expects to be there.[/QUOTE]
Thus misleading, placing things so that customers might skip over them are illegal.
[QUOTE=raviool;32747307]the EU is really great
[URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8816601/Children-to-be-banned-from-blowing-up-balloons-under-EU-safety-rules.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
deceptive fucking headline.
They're still allowed to blow up balloons, if you're under 8 years old you just need to be supervised by a parent while doing it.
Next time you visit Adobe's website...
[quote][ ] No, do not install McAfee Security Scan Plus[/quote]
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32747187]"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."[/QUOTE]
My God, you're right!
WE'RE LIVING UNDER [I][U][B]TYRANNY[/B][/U][/I].
[QUOTE=Tools;32741258]And this is why I love Europe, because the men upstairs think the same way as us regulares.
Same as when they demanded that all smartphones use the same cable, because everyone's tired of that bs with having to find the right connector.[/QUOTE]
My god. Why hasnt the US done this.
[QUOTE=areolop;32751898]My god. Why hasnt the US done this.[/QUOTE]
Because (in the nicest way possible) the US is pretty backwards when it comes to tech. It is benefiting a lot of people though. It is the reason so many phones have mini USB now.
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